Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> IMHO it is an RFC requirement, however the solution with a synchronous > > Eh, that does not parse. Either it is a matter of opinion, or it is a > matter of standard. Please pick one, not both; they are incompatible. s/IMHO/AFAIK/ - but see my other po

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:28:51AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Seems like this script really belongs in the examples directory. > > IMHO it is an RFC requirement, however the solution with a synchronous Eh, that does not parse. Either it is a matt

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:20:47PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:48:23AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 08:03:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Jun 29, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Come on, how often this happens? And it's

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Can you please stat which RFC? Especially as there are many setups where > it can't check if an address is already used. Well, it is SHOULD for DHCP RFC2131 clients (and icmp from server), for Link Level Autoconfiguration (in IPV4 RFC3927 and IPV6 RFC246

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:20:47PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > > And DHCP clients should double-check their assigned address with ARP > > anyway, so it's duplicating this check on most systems. > Where is this specified? The DHCP server is authorative about the > addresses it assigns. ISC dhcp s

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:28:51AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > IMHO it is an RFC requirement, however the solution with a synchronous > script is not that well suited for default-on. Can you please stat which RFC? Especially as there are many setups where it can't check if an address is alread

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:48:23AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 08:03:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Jun 29, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Come on, how often this happens? And it's disabled by default anyway. > > The major effect of this patch is to w

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Seems like this script really belongs in the examples directory. IMHO it is an RFC requirement, however the solution with a synchronous script is not that well suited for default-on. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-07 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
2008/7/6 Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jun 29, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Note that duplicate IPs can be very harmful and even cause loss of data. For > Come on, how often this happens? And it's disabled by default anyway. > The major effect of this patch is to waste ti

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 08:03:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 29, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Note that duplicate IPs can be very harmful and even cause loss of data. > > For > Come on, how often this happens? And it's disabled by default anyway. > The major effect of

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 29, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Note that duplicate IPs can be very harmful and even cause loss of data. For Come on, how often this happens? And it's disabled by default anyway. The major effect of this patch is to waste time on almost every system every time *any* interfac