Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 02 March 2006 04:46, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Package: libacme-brainfck-perl > Provides: libacme-brainfuck-perl Ah, and back to the time when some words where magic and caused burn marks on the paper around the ink. I never have and probably never will see why some people find 'f*ck'

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:58:12 +0100 Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you claim that this is _not_ just a proof-of-concept item? No. It's fully usable and enjoinable. -- KiyuKo "Like Russian Rulette with six bullets loaded" pgpWVdTmi9Ukg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I only saw the last one of the flame wars you mention, and it didn't > even cross my mind that this ITP would gather similar attention. For the record, I don't care any which way about the name [1]; my reaction would have been the same if it was cal

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andrea Bolognani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BrainFuck is not just a proof-of-concept or a toy language. You can write > actual programs using it. > Seriously, there is even a complete textual adventure written in BrainFuck: > http://jonripley.com/i-fiction/games/LostKingdomBF.html Do you clai

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:43:54 +0100 Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit "Tim Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > A programming language with the minimum number of instructions > > necessary to be turing-complete and have I/O may be more than a toy > > for some people. > > Perhaps.

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Mario Lang
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> * License : BSD-like >> Description : Brainfuck compiler > > What is this useful for? Curling braincells... I once wrote a Emacs Lisp implementation[1] of a BrainFuck compiler, its prob

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-06, 05:31 (CST), Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only saw the last one of the flame wars you mention, and it didn't > even cross my mind that this ITP would gather similar attention. Then I apologize for implying otherwise. > Note that the package name does not have a

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Panu Kalliokoski
(I'm not on -devel, so I constructed this reply by hand.) > And given the reaction to porn-get and bitchx and > whatever-the-stripping-cpu-monitor-was-called , I tend to assume[2] that > the true intent of such an ITP is to instigate yet another 500 post > flame war between the "but what about the

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Tim Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A programming language with the minimum number of instructions > necessary to be turing-complete and have I/O may be more than a toy > for some people. Perhaps. But (1) brainfuck isn't that; it has twice as many basic instructions as combinatory lambda c

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:47:59 -0600, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 01-Mar-06, 08:57 (CST), Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > * License : BSD-like >> > Description : Brainfuck compiler >> >> What is this us

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Miles Bader
"Tim Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Useful" is a matter of opinion. A programming language with the > minimum number of instructions necessary to be turing-complete and > have I/O may be more than a toy for some people. Anyway, since when are "toys" somehow not allowed in Debian?!? Brainf

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Steve Greenland wrote: On 01-Mar-06, 13:05 (CST), Tim Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And given the reaction to porn-get and bitchx and whatever-the-stripping-cpu-monitor-was-called , I tend to assume[2] that the true intent of such an ITP is to instigate yet another 500 po

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Tim Olsen
On 3/1/06, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01-Mar-06, 13:05 (CST), Tim Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's "An Eight-Instruction Turing-Complete Programming Language." > > Yeah, I know. That doesn't make it "useful"[1]. > "Useful" is a matter of opinion. A programming langua

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 03:57:17PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * License : BSD-like > > Description : Brainfuck compiler > What is this useful for? Pretty much the same thing that libacme-brainfck-perl is useful for. Cheers, aj

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit The Fungi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:59:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Besides that? > It is essentially a toy, or a demonstration tool... depends on your > point of view. Why should we use mirror bandwidth on either? > BrainFuck, from what I can tell, has been

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Mar-06, 13:05 (CST), Tim Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's "An Eight-Instruction Turing-Complete Programming Language." Yeah, I know. That doesn't make it "useful"[1]. And given the reaction to porn-get and bitchx and whatever-the-stripping-cpu-monitor-was-called , I tend to assume[

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread The Fungi
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:59:12PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Besides that? It is essentially a toy, or a demonstration tool... depends on your point of view. BrainFuck, from what I can tell, has been around for years and is a Turing-complete programming language consisting of only eight commands

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:59:12 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Besides that? BrainFuck is Everyone's Favourite Programming Language (TM). -- KiyuKo "Like Russian Rulette with six bullets loaded" pgp4IRdXe6FQQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Tim Olsen
It's "An Eight-Instruction Turing-Complete Programming Language." See: I suggest a better description for the ITP so people can see that the purpose of the package is not necessarily only to offend (if at all). -

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 12:47 -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 01-Mar-06, 08:57 (CST), Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > * License : BSD-like > > > Description : Brainfuck compiler > > > > What is this useful for?

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Steve Greenland
On 01-Mar-06, 08:57 (CST), Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * License : BSD-like > > Description : Brainfuck compiler > > What is this useful for? Annoying people who think that children are irrevocably damaged by rea

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * License : BSD-like > Description : Brainfuck compiler What is this useful for? -- Henning Makholm "Ambiguous cases are defined as those for which the compiler being used finds a legitimate interpreta

Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-01 Thread Panu Kalliokoski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: bfc Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sange.fi/~atehwa/bf/ * License : BSD-like Description : Brainfuck compiler