Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell dijo [Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:42:01PM +0100]:
>> I think it doesn't go far enough.
>>
>> mv sbin/* bin
>> rmdir sbin
>> ln -s bin sbin
>>
>> ...and the problem goes away forever.
>
> You type too fast.
>
> Are you _sure_ no two
Hy,
I believe that the question is going to deadlocking itself.
If the user need to using the "ifconfig" program, that user must
include the right directory where was originally located ("/sbin").
Just 2 my cent
Cesare
On 6/16/05, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Richard Kettlewell dijo
Richard Kettlewell dijo [Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:42:01PM +0100]:
> I think it doesn't go far enough.
>
> mv sbin/* bin
> rmdir sbin
> ln -s bin sbin
>
> ...and the problem goes away forever.
You type too fast.
Are you _sure_ no two Debian packages provide overlapping /bin/$that
and /sbin/
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> And anyway ifconfig is deprecated, everybody should always use iproute
> which *is* in /bin.
Why is so?
J
PS: You keep on impressing me how gratiously you use the language:
"Linux kernel 2.4 is obsolete"
"ifconfig is deprecated"
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Probably because there's no solid reason against a symlink.
Yes, and since ip puts one, too, I can do the same.
Greetings
Bernd
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On 13 Jun 2005 10:11:52 +0100, Richard Kettlewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Yes. The great majority of users don't want to know about stuff
> > like ifconfig, and those that _do_ can either put /sbin in their
>
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I agree. The type of user who is likely to be using the ifconfig
>> command on a regular basis is the type of user who probably already
>> has sbin in their path. (Power user, sysadmin's nonprivleged
>> account, etc.
astronut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree. The type of user who is likely to be using the ifconfig command
> on a regular basis is the type of user who probably already has sbin in
> their path. (Power user, sysadmin's nonprivleged account, etc.).
Yes. The great majority of users don't want
Hasso Tepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > And anyway ifconfig is deprecated,
>>
>> While I don't have a very strong opinion on this matter either way, I
>> feel I should point out that
>> a) ifconfig is
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > And anyway ifconfig is deprecated,
>
> While I don't have a very strong opinion on this matter either way, I
> feel I should point out that
> a) ifconfig is an application that exists not only on Linux, but
On Sat, 11 Jun 2005, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:42:21PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > I don't understand what would be wrong with having a symlink in /bin ...
>
> Because this applies to most of the programs in /sbin. It would be easier
> to just merge both directorie
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Adrian von Bidder wrote:
>On Friday 10 June 2005 10.40, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
>
>
>>Hello Olaf,
>>
>>On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
>>
>>
>>>ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's
On Friday 10 June 2005 10.40, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> Hello Olaf,
>
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's path. But ifconfig is runnable
> > and useful for normal users, so it'd be nice if it could be added to
> > the path
Josh Lauricha wrote:
> Not that I support replace ifconfig, but:
> $ ip -s link
>
> lists (in a different, but sane, format) everything, but the
> non-physical addresses of the links (now thats a dumb omission).
The output of ifconfig -a is a unison of ip -s addr and ip -s link,
unfortunately
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 11, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:49:36PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > Wrong. iproute does much more than route/ifconfig, which cannot support
>> > all the features of >= 2.4 networking stacks.
>> How
On Jun 11, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:49:36PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Wrong. iproute does much more than route/ifconfig, which cannot support
> > all the features of >= 2.4 networking stacks.
> However this is neighter something which cant be fix
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:42:21PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I don't understand what would be wrong with having a symlink in /bin ...
Because this applies to most of the programs in /sbin. It would be easier
to just merge both directories.
Gruss
Bernd
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:49:36PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Wrong. iproute does much more than route/ifconfig, which cannot support
> all the features of >= 2.4 networking stacks.
However this is neighter something which cant be fixed nor is this the
question.
Gruss
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On Fri 06/10/05 15:24, Rich Walker wrote:
> What *single* command in the iproute package can I call to get the same
> information as I get from ifconfig -a? Until there is one, I don't see
> you can replace it.
Not that I support replace ifconfig, but:
$ ip -s link
lists (in a different, but
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The problem here is that ifconfig must be in sbin by FHS and by history
> (would break too many scripts). So moving is not an option. I can however
> put a symlink in /bin, however I am not sure how other DDs think about it,
> as this will set a bad pre
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Don't bother. This could be applied to most other programs in /sbin too...
> And anyway ifconfig is deprecated, everybody should always use iproute
> which *is* in /bin.
This is only true for linux, not for anything else.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Jun 10, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> a) ifconfig is an application that exists not only on Linux, but on many
>>other (free or non-free) unices as well; it would be fair to say
> And indeed this is the only reason to keep it arou
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Jun 10, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The problem here is that ifconfig must be in sbin by FHS and by history
(would break too many scripts). So moving is not an option. I can however
put a symlink in /bin, however I am not sure how other DDs think about it,
On Jun 10, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a) ifconfig is an application that exists not only on Linux, but on many
>other (free or non-free) unices as well; it would be fair to say
And indeed this is the only reason to keep it around.
> b) The mere fact that there is something n
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:47:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> b) The mere fact that there is something newer which performs the same
>function does in no way imply that the older implementation is
>"deprecated". This is true for many things -- kernels, network
>configuration softwa
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:24:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> And anyway ifconfig is deprecated,
While I don't have a very strong opinion on this matter either way, I
feel I should point out that
a) ifconfig is an application that exists not only on Linux, but on many
other (free or non-free
On 6/10/05, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's path. But ifconfig is runnable
> > and useful for normal users, so it'd be nice if it could be added to the
> > path of normal user
On Jun 10, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem here is that ifconfig must be in sbin by FHS and by history
> (would break too many scripts). So moving is not an option. I can however
> put a symlink in /bin, however I am not sure how other DDs think about it,
> as this will se
Le Vendredi 10 Juin 2005 10:40, Bernd Eckenfels a écrit :
> The problem here is that ifconfig must be in sbin by FHS and by
> history (would break too many scripts). So moving is not an option. I
> can however put a symlink in /bin, however I am not sure how other
> DDs think about it, as this will
Hello Olaf,
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:58:21PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> ifconfig is in /sbin and only in root's path. But ifconfig is runnable
> and useful for normal users, so it'd be nice if it could be added to the
> path of normal users too.
The problem here is that ifconfig must be
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