Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-12-02 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I think this is a worthy technical goal. Given the decade it has > taken for Fredombox to get this far I suspect the pandemic will be > over before we get something working at a reasonably numpty

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Lines (2020-11-23 11:03:19) > Mail is one of the first target applications for a Simple Organisation > Server - I have just installed Postfix on my sample server, and now I > want to integrate it with LDAP, both for forwarding (aliases in LDAP) > and local delivery (into Dovecot with R

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > > I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit misleading. In my > > experience, often even > > massive companies and universities need small, easily deployed > > services that are > > maintained independently from the core infrastructure. > > Sometimes it is to serve remote offices with limit

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > > You may all also find it useful to look at debian-edu which has > > some > > similar ideas. If you do want to put together something new, it's > > possible that a melting together of ideas from Freedombox / Debian- > > Edu > > and other projects will give you a better starting point. > >

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 17:28 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > You may all also find it useful to look at debian-edu which has some > similar > ideas. If you do want to put together something new, it's possible > that a > melting together of ideas from Freedombox / Debian-Edu and other > proje

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 14:37 +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server > is practically > the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt > install freedombox". > I think the key differences are: 1) Funding - This is imp

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > Seems our defined problem is quite similar, if not identical. > > Would be great if we could find overlap also in our work towards > solutions. > Collaboration and working together as much as we can seems central to successful FLOSS projects > > Makes me happy that you want to give it a t

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (2020-11-20 18:28:31) > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:37:11PM +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation > > Server is practically the same as FreedomBox, either installed from > > image or with "apt install freedombox"

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:37:11PM +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server > is practically > the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt > install freedombox". > > I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit mislea

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Federico Ceratto
As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server is practically the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt install freedombox". I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit misleading. In my experience, often even massive companies and universities need sma

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Lines (2020-11-19 12:35:35) > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 16:18 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > > > I have written at > > > > > https

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 15:29 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2020-11-18 11:06:20 + (+), John Lines wrote: > [...] > > I do suggest in > > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/13/ambridge-garden-club-registering-the-domain/ > > > > that AWS might be a possibility, or Azure,

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 16:18 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi John, > > Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > > I have written at > > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2020-11-18 11:06:20 + (+), John Lines wrote: [...] > I do suggest in > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/13/ambridge-garden-club-registering-the-domain/ > > that AWS might be a possibility, or Azure, or Google Cloud If you're going to advocate for free/libre open source

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi John, Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I have written at > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/ > > > > > > about a such a group, as I

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 19:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 11:06 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I believe/hope it should be possible to this type of thing another > > way, > > and that a technical sysadmin should not be needed. > > You would still need a sysadmin to do the hardwa

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > ... > >I have written > >at > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/ > > about > >a such a group, as I am interested to know if others feel this

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 22:10 +0530, Joseph Nuthalapati wrote: > FreedomBox has been successfully used in community deployments to > serve > a number of useful applications from a locally hosted server. This is > documented in the WikiBook, FreedomBox for Communities[1]. > > I agree with you that a

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 11:06 +, John Lines wrote: > I believe/hope it should be possible to this type of thing another way, > and that a technical sysadmin should not be needed. You would still need a sysadmin to do the hardware, OS and software setup, fixes, tweaks, replacement, etc. > I hav

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 00:15 +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:30 PM John Lines wrote: > > > I have been thinking about how to offer alternatives to Facebook, > > WhatsApp, Zoom etc for non-technical people, many of whom are > > finding the Internet and computers much more central

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:30 PM John Lines wrote: > I have been thinking about how to offer alternatives to Facebook, WhatsApp, > Zoom etc for non-technical people, many of whom are finding the Internet and > computers much more central to their lives than they did before the pandemic. This ide

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-17 Thread Joseph Nuthalapati
FreedomBox has been successfully used in community deployments to serve a number of useful applications from a locally hosted server. This is documented in the WikiBook, FreedomBox for Communities[1]. I agree with you that a Debian Pure Blend for small organizations overlaps significantly with Fre

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-16 Thread Wookey
On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: >Many people are members of small organisations who are moving online -and >the only option they can find and understand is to create a Facebook >Group, use Facebook messenger or WhatsApp to communicate, and Zoom for >meetings. >Debi

A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-16 Thread John Lines
I have been thinking about how to offer alternatives to Facebook, WhatsApp, Zoom etc for non-technical people, many of whom are finding the Internet and computers much more central to their lives than they did before the pandemic. Many people are members of small organisations who are moving onlin