Michael wrote:
>
> > Speaking realistically, such a move of Sun would be spectacularly bad PR
> > for them esp. considering their statements about future Java licensing
> > efforts they have committed to.
>
> That's true. But why did they release this license and used no other
> wording?
>
> You
On 5/19/06, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(...)
> > (b) the Software is distributed with your Operating System, and
> > such distribution is solely for the purposes of running Programs
> > under the control of your Operating System and designing,
> > developing
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 10:59:33PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > > (f) you agree to defend and indemnify Sun and its licensors from
> > > and against any damages, costs, liabilities, settlement amounts
> > > and/or expenses (including attorneys' fees) incurred in
> > > con
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:18:57PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
>>> Note that the license says "... is distributed *with* your Operating
>>> System", and not "is part of". I don't know where you read the "part of"
>>> bit? Anyway, we definitely do distribute non-free *with* o
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 02:18:57PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > Note that the license says "... is distributed *with* your Operating
> > System", and not "is part of". I don't know where you read the "part of"
> > bit? Anyway, we definitely do distribute non-free *with* our OS, it's in
> > debia
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 11:09:30PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
>>> (b) the Software is distributed with your Operating System, and
>>> such distribution is solely for the purposes of running Programs
>>> under the control of your Operating System and desig
On 5/19/06, Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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The software as distributed is complete, it has all the files in the
.deb packages, and the dependencies ensure that on the user's system the
software layout is like Sun requires, with the optional bits indeed
being optional.
[s
Let me first preface this with a caveat and an apology: after the fact
it was pointed out that the mail I sent was needlesly inflamatory;
that was not my intention and for that I apologize. I also appreciate
the desire of Sun to work with Debian in order to create a license
that distributions can d
Let me reply to at least some of the points raised here right now. By
the way, one of the Sun engineers was involved in packaging, and
actually wrote (with help from others) part of the license agreement
code etc. using debconf. I don't think that has any legal value (but I'm
not a legal expert), b
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