On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:27:45PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
>
> > The priority of selinux packages was changed from optional to standard,
> > fairly shortly before the release of Etch.
> >
> > I propose to revert that change before Lenny. The basic reason is that
> > the selinux packages
Quoting Andreas Tille ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>> Being
>> something not really end user-oriented, that would have to be a
>> "hidden" task (not shown as a choice by tasksel) that one could choose
>> with the appropriate D-I boot option.
>
> Hmmm, why hidden? In how far are other tasks more or less u
Thanks, Manoj, for this powerful 'comeback'.
Looks like you've updated most of the packages already; at least the
non-GUI ones (which are the ones I care most about, I never really got
the hang of the UI apps).
Don't forget we'll also (AFAIK) need updates to PAM and OpenSSH.
These two are very impo
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 02:00:41PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> > I disagree that simply willingness can nack Frans' request.
> > If the current situation is "bad", and I assume that trusting Frans'
> > words, and it has been like that for long, then the request should be
> > fulfilled now. La
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:34:11PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:20PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> > but currently willing to work on i'd nack fjp requests.
> > of course if no progress has been made in a month,
> > his request is more then reasonable.
>
> I
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:20PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> but currently willing to work on i'd nack fjp requests.
> of course if no progress has been made in a month,
> his request is more then reasonable.
I disagree that simply willingness can nack Frans' request.
If the current situat
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:34:58AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>..
> Well, don't bother with the SELinux packages; most of them are
> already in Incoming, though I am not packaging straight out of SVN yet.
> I'm sticking to the released versions, until I can see a clear need to
> go
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 10:10:19 +0100, Václav Ovsík <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:43:54PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I don't think Lenny is in shape for a release either. It took me
>> about a day to get most SELinux packages back up to date -- which
>> means we could
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:43:54PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I don't think Lenny is in shape for a release either. It took
> me about a day to get most SELinux packages back up to date -- which
> means we could have them updated anytmime in the last few months, if
> any one had
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 07:02:40 +0100, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I slightly disagree. Not that I have doubts about your commitment, but
> this entire discussion showed that SELinux is, right now, not ready
> for being included in default installs. As D-I is preparing a beta
> rele
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Christian Perrier wrote:
Possible alternative: create a tasksel's task to include it, which
would make testing of installs with SELinux by default easier.
I would be in great favour of this.
Being
something not really end user-oriented, that would have to be a
"hidden" ta
Quoting maximilian attems ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> but currently willing to work on i'd nack fjp requests.
> of course if no progress has been made in a month,
> his request is more then reasonable.
I slightly disagree. Not that I have doubts about your commitment, but
this entire discussion sh
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:49:01 +0100, Erich Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hello Frans, Hello fellow DDs, Yes, the SELinux stuff doesn't seem to
> have any currently active developers. I haven't heard anything from
> Manoj in months.
I haven't been around a whole lot, no.
> Anyway
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:27:45 +0100, maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> so asking if the SELinux team is ok with adding me as co-maintainer?
> thanks Erich for your concise posting on where the work needs to be
> picked up!
The place we need most work is
1) slat
2) polgen-dfs
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:19:14 +0100, Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> The priority of selinux packages was changed from optional to
> standard, fairly shortly before the release of Etch.
> I propose to revert that change before Lenny. The basic reason is that
> the selinux packages have basic
Hi everyone,
There is no real "SELinux team" anymore that could say yes or no to
anything I figure. The SELinux people at Debian were mostly Manoj, RJC
and myself. I havn't heard anything from Manoj in months, I'm not able
to do any actual SELinux work anymore and while RJC updated his SELinux
Demo
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:27:45PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> > I'd like to work on SELinux packages and bugs.
>
> That's wonderful, thanks for your help offering!
>
> Still, if I'm interpreting correctly Frans' and Erich's mails, the
> *cu
Hi,
I'm not DD, but I'm very interested into SELinux on Debian (but must to
say - not a guru for SELinux yet :).
I'm experimenting with latest SELinux code on Etch, so if this staff can
be worth for anyone...
http://linux.i.cz/debian/dists/selinux-etch/
Packages are a bit hairy (changelogs). I r
Il giorno Wed, 6 Feb 2008 12:27:45 +0100
maximilian attems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:
>
> > The priority of selinux packages was changed from optional to standard,
> > fairly shortly before the release of Etch.
> >
> > I propose to revert that change before Lenny. The basic reason is that
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 12:27:45PM +0100, maximilian attems wrote:
> I'd like to work on SELinux packages and bugs.
That's wonderful, thanks for your help offering!
Still, if I'm interpreting correctly Frans' and Erich's mails, the
*current* status of SELinux in Debian is, erm, sub-optimal. So I
> The priority of selinux packages was changed from optional to standard,
> fairly shortly before the release of Etch.
>
> I propose to revert that change before Lenny. The basic reason is that
> the selinux packages have basically been unmaintained since the release
> of Etch.
I'd like to work
Erich Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This makes me wonder if we actually have enough developers working on
> security infrastructure and the core system in general. Actually I have
> the impression in general (not only with respect to security) that we're
> losing developer share, but I ca
I agree. Regarding the installed size, on my not-so-barebone KDE lenny
PC (1067 packages installed), installing standard selinux packages would
require 40 MB more. Systems with old HDD-s and miniature systems could
be bothered.
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Hello Frans, Hello fellow DDs,
Yes, the SELinux stuff doesn't seem to have any currently active
developers. I haven't heard anything from Manoj in months.
I had to stop working on SELinux myself for various reasons; it's not
that things didn't work, but it was a mixture of personal reasons
(mostly
The priority of selinux packages was changed from optional to standard,
fairly shortly before the release of Etch.
I propose to revert that change before Lenny. The basic reason is that the
selinux packages have basically been unmaintained since the release of
Etch. Because of that current SeLi
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