Re: /etc/mailname same as /etc/hostname

2003-08-23 Thread Dan Jacobson
>>>>> "A" == Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mailed me: A> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:06:12AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> If /etc/mailname is the same as /etc/hostname, can I remove >> /etc/mailname perhaps one day? Both say jidanni.org .

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-06-03 Thread Brian May
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 11:08:52AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But this second configuration requires the network and will fail in > > the case that you have taken it offline. On laptops that is not a > > desireable situation. Even in the desktop environme

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 07:44:20PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 10:55:13AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > On a laptop with a sometimes disconnected PCMCIA network card you > > might find this very inconvenient. The first configuration above will > > always use the loopback

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Herbert Xu
Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But this second configuration requires the network and will fail in > the case that you have taken it offline. On laptops that is not a > desireable situation. Even in the desktop environment there are cases You can solve that by adding the external add

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Allan Wind
On 2003-05-31 10:55:13, Bob Proulx wrote: > Why do you say it is broken? What apps will it break? Applications using omniorb, for instance, breaks with this config per ther mailing list. /Allan -- Allan Wind P.O. Box 2022 Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgpsIhr4xgLeH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 10:55:13AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > On a laptop with a sometimes disconnected PCMCIA network card you > might find this very inconvenient. The first configuration above will > always use the loopback address and will always be able to talk to > itself even if the network

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Balazs GAL wrote: > Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > > (from /etc/hosts) > > 127.0.0.1 bohr.local bohr localhost > > 192.168.65.5bohr.local bohr > > This is a broken setup, and it will break many apps. > Use it only, if you really _should_ use it as a workaround. Why do you say it is brok

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Balazs GAL
2003-05-30, p keltezéssel Anthony DeRobertis ezt írta: > (from /etc/hosts) > 127.0.0.1 bohr.local bohr localhost > 192.168.65.5bohr.local bohr This is a broken setup, and it will break many apps. Use it only, if you really _should_ use it as a workaround. The right one: 127.0.0.1

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 08:52:07PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 10:20, Steve Langasek wrote: > > However, I've seen problems caused by the use of the short name only in > > /etc/hostname (mostly mail-related, maybe?) and I systematically change

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Thu, 2003-05-29 at 10:20, Steve Langasek wrote: > However, I've seen problems caused by the use of the short name only in > /etc/hostname (mostly mail-related, maybe?) and I systematically change > this to hold the FQDN on my systems. Haven't filed a bug about this, > b

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Artur R. Czechowski
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:20:34AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > However, I've seen problems caused by the use of the short name only in > /etc/hostname (mostly mail-related, maybe?) and I systematically change Most MTA's (at least: sendmail, postfix and exim) has options in con

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 29, "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? As you can see from the other replies, this is mostly a matters of taste and religion. I do not know about any definitive standard for this matter.

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:20:34AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > > > Is this documented anywhere? > > > > I've always thougth that /etc/hostname should contain short hostname. > > &g

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:43:56PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > Is this documented anywhere? There is no real standard on this. Both is possible. Most Software works like this: - if you need a unqualified hostnam

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Bob Proulx
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > Is this documented anywhere? A religous argument. Some like it one way and some like it the other way. Be prepared for a long discussion thread. > I've always thougth that /etc/h

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Mark Brown
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 09:20:34AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > However, I've seen problems caused by the use of the short name only in > /etc/hostname (mostly mail-related, maybe?) and I systematically change > this to hold the FQDN on my systems. Haven't filed a bug about

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nikita V. Youshchenko] > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > Is this documented anywhere? I prefer the FQDN as hostname. It make it easier to report the correct name in scripts when administrating large installations. Some unix-types do not handle FQDN as ho

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 02:35:03PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:43:56PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > > Is this documented anywhere? > > I've always thougth that /e

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
Nikita V. Youshchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? [rest snipped, no answers for that.] The short name. cu andreas

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 03:43:56PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? > Is this documented anywhere? > > I've always thougth that /etc/hostname should contain short hostname. > But e.g. etherconf package

/etc/hostname

2003-05-29 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hello Should /etc/hostname contain only short hostname, or FQDN name? Is this documented anywhere? I've always thougth that /etc/hostname should contain short hostname. But e.g. etherconf package puts FQDN name there ...