Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2906T033439-0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > > Saved to "branden.asc" and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in > > > > gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a > > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has b

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Ethan Benson
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 03:34:39AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a > > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been > > used > > This concerns me a lot more than the joke itself or what led up to it. > > Does anyone else have this pr

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > Saved to "branden.asc" and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in > > gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used This concerns me a lot more than the joke itself

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 10:03:56AM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > Saved to "branden.asc" and 'gpg -d branden.asc' results in > > gpg: CRC error; 72a653 - dc372a > gpg: quoted printable character in armor - probably a buggy MTA has been used > > > Well, I was able to "repair" and read it.

Re: OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: > It was meant as a joke... so go ahead :) That's why I did not really complain about it ;-) > Im not sure why he encrypted to you though. Yeah, I also thought that you should have received this ;-)) (because you asked for it, that is) Ulf

OT Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-05 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? > > > > As a joke... > > Im damned curious..

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 01:19:08AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? > > As a joke... Im damned curious.. what did it say? -- Michael Bea

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 08:54:25AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > Um, why send such a message to a widely-read mailing-list? As a joke... -- G. Branden Robinson | Psychology is really biology. Debian GNU/Linux| Biology is really chemistry. [EMA

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2903T152152-0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP MESSAGE- ... > -END PGP MESSAGE- gpg: encrypted with 1024-bit ELG-E key, ID 22CC9EBE, created 2000-08-17 "Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" gpg: no secret key for decryption available gpg: decryption faile

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 07:55:32PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > > P.S.: Please can you go without the PGP stuff for the mailing list? It > > seems to double the size of your messages. Thanks. > > I'd like to see Over

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-09-03 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > > P.S.: Please can you go without the PGP stuff for the mailing list? It > seems to double the size of your messages. Thanks. > I'd like to see Overfiends response to this. -- Michael Beattie

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh > scripts > Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant. > What policy says is: We were talking about echo -ne, not echo -n

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> > > > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. > > > > I have used ash for over a year now as my /bin/sh. > OK, OK, OK, I surrender. I have to admit my experience was rather old and the quantity of bashisms have sharply decreased. So you can run a

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. > I have used ash for over a year now as my /bin/sh.

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant. What policy says is: The standard shell interpreter ``/bin/sh'' can be a symbolic link to any POSIX compat

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Anton Ivanov wrote: > > apache starts up correctly for me on every system boot, and I do have > > /bin/sh pointing to /bin/ash as well. > > My fault. It actually uses #!/bin/bash which it should not anyway Well, #!/bin/bash scripts are allowed to use bashisms :) Ulf

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > If you are right at least apache scripts are not. I suggest you > > file a bug against it. > > If you know how to call apache scripts to demonstrate the error then > please file the bug yourself. > > Check before, if you run an up-to-date apache. I do > >

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Anton Ivanov wrote: > If you are right at least apache scripts are not. I suggest you > file a bug against it. If you know how to call apache scripts to demonstrate the error then please file the bug yourself. Check before, if you run an up-to-date apache. apache starts up correctly

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 12:31:15PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > > > > Neither SuS nor POSIX specifies -e so ash is free to do whatever it > > > chooses. > > > > If you noted I have not used the word POSIX anywhere. I just said that > > there > > are tons things that will break. > >

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 12:31:15PM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > > Neither SuS nor POSIX specifies -e so ash is free to do whatever it chooses. > > If you noted I have not used the word POSIX anywhere. I just said that > there > are tons things that will break. And this is Debian wher

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:57:17AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > > Sorry, wrote my first message with too high blood level in the caffeine > > subsystem. I meant echo -ne. > > Neither SuS nor POSIX specifies -e so ash is free to do whatever it chooses. If you noted I have not u

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:57:17AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > Sorry, wrote my first message with too high blood level in the caffeine > subsystem. I meant echo -ne. Neither SuS nor POSIX specifies -e so ash is free to do whatever it chooses. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://ww

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:10:04AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > > It parses command line -en different from bash. Different getopts ;-) > > How does it differ? AFAIK, ash's getopts is POSIX compliant. Sorry, wrote my first message with too high blood level in the caffeine subsyste

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:10:04AM +0100, Anton Ivanov wrote: > > It parses command line -en different from bash. Different getopts ;-) How does it differ? AFAIK, ash's getopts is POSIX compliant. -- Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PR

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> > Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On 29-Aug-2000 Miros/law `Jubal' Baran wrote: > > >> > > >> Isn't /bin/ash POSIX compliant? > > >> > > > > > I run ash as my /bin/sh. As for its compliance, I am not certain and no > > > one > > > will claim it being fullly complian

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 29-Aug-2000 Miros/law `Jubal' Baran wrote: > >> > >> Isn't /bin/ash POSIX compliant? > >> > > > I run ash as my /bin/sh. As for its compliance, I am not certain and no one > > will claim it being fullly compliant. > > AFAIK ash is as c