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2015-01-05 Thread Stephen Powell
om/watch?v=J9JE51X7ul4 -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/171763

Re: Ifupdown dysfunctional, is a Provides: interface possible please?

2014-03-29 Thread Stephen Powell
see no compelling reason to replace it. My two cents worth. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.or

Re: Bug #739874 - procps doesn't build on i386

2014-02-24 Thread Stephen Powell
o get the 1:3.3.9-3 source code downloaded and extracted with dpkg-source. In other words, on my machine at least, I did not get a FTBFS error. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Re: Feedback

2012-12-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:39:39 -0500 (EST), Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On 25.12.2012 15:55, Stephen Powell wrote: >> (1) Official Debian version numbers are not normally assigned until >> the release becomes the stable release. > > I haven't checked when previous release n

Re: Feedback

2012-12-25 Thread Stephen Powell
duct, available here: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct (4) Someone who can't spell, or who doesn't bother to proof-read his work, is on thin ice criticizing someone else's writing. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `

Re: this bug .. bugs me

2012-06-07 Thread Stephen Powell
be doing anything about it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1560597686.1629135.1339112833174.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com

Symbolic links to kernel image files and initial RAM file system image files

2011-07-19 Thread Stephen Powell
alternatives that I haven't thought of. What are your thoughts? P.S. For this initial post I have CC-ed debian-boot and debian-devel, as there may be interested parties on that list that are not subscribed to debian-kernel, but it is my intention that the discussion take place on debian-ke

Re: maintainer ignores bug

2011-02-26 Thread Stephen Powell
order to know which package he should file the bug report against. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Squeeze Release Coincides with "Toy Story Marathon"

2011-02-07 Thread Stephen Powell
Toy Story movies were being shown back-to-back-to-back. Isn't that an amazing co-incidence? Or was it? ;-) Thank you very much. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Bug#603767: gdm: starts on v8 instead of vt7

2010-11-17 Thread Stephen Powell
This appears to be a duplicate of 596700. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Arc

Re: Re: searching inside files with find, cat and grep as a oneliner ...

2010-09-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:40:31 -0400 (EDT), Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:01:17PM +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote: >> Stephen Powell wrote: >>> Search all files under the home directory (recursively) with an >>> extension of .txt >>> for the k

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-21 Thread Stephen Powell
here is the money going to come from? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/566700884.5143.1279719969516.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com

Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-21 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:10:56 -0400 (EDT), Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> I haven't been following this thread closely; so if this idea has been >> mentioned before, please excuse the duplicate. I actually tried to >> enable popcon on my servers, b

Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-21 Thread Stephen Powell
for external e-mail in order to work. The MTA (exim4) on all my machines is configured for local mail only. If the delivery mechanism were, say, a "batch" ftp transfer, I could probably enable popcon. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'`

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-17 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 04:31:56 -0400 (EDT), Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Care to share a reference to the bug you reported? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=589452 -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Stephen Powell
. A bug report will be forth-coming. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://list

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-13 Thread Stephen Powell
aps it would be worthwhile to file a bug report. Otherwise, it's a waste of time. Stephen Powell wrote: > The intel driver supports both KMS and UMS. Cyril Brulebois wrote: > That's no longer correct. > http://ikibiki.org/blog/2010/07/04/We_need_you_redux/ Ben Hutchings

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:24:56 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-07-12 21:09 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote: >> If nouveau set KMS by default, as the intel driver does, but did not >> *require* KMS, I would agree. But the last time I checked, using the nouveau >> driver *

Re: [RFC] removing xserver-xorg-video-nv from squeeze

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Powell
irtual consoles (1-6). Because of that, I still use nv. That's the *only* reason that I still use nv. There is no bug number here because I'm sure that upstream would consider this a feature and not a bug. In other words, they would consider operation of the driver with KMS off an e

Re: [DRAFT] Policy for Linux kernel, initramfs, boot loader update process

2010-06-28 Thread Stephen Powell
ernel image. > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:16:58AM -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> Currently, hook scripts invoked by a stock kernel maintainer script >> or a maintainer script from a kernel image package created by make-kpkg >> pass these exact same arguments. > > no. >Fr

Re: [DRAFT] Policy for Linux kernel, initramfs, boot loader update process

2010-06-28 Thread Stephen Powell
if you're going to drop support for it in Squeeze, then yes, a warning message is necessary. Both the kernel maintainer scripts *and* "update-initramfs -u" *must* issue a warning message if they find "do_bootloader = yes" specified in /etc/kernel

Re: new lilo package maintainer? (was lilo removal in squeeze or please test grub2)

2010-06-08 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:39:58 -0400 (EDT), Vincent Danjean wrote: > On 07/06/2010 17:37, Stephen Powell wrote: >> But for a kernel install or reconfigure, it is the responsibility of the >> kernel maintainer scripts to invoke the bootloader. See also, for example, >> linu

Re: new lilo package maintainer? (was lilo removal in squeeze or please test grub2)

2010-06-07 Thread Stephen Powell
kernel maintainer scripts to invoke the bootloader. See also, for example, linux-image-2.6.26-2-s390.postinst, where zipl is assigned as the bootloader on line 38. This really is an "open and shut case", if only I can the kernel people to actually look at it! Please l

new lilo package maintainer? (was lilo removal in squeeze or please test grub2)

2010-06-07 Thread Stephen Powell
o from the Debian installer menu that's their call, as far as I am concerned. I just don't want to see lilo removed from the distribution. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.deb

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze / new lilo upstream

2010-06-06 Thread Stephen Powell
ase critical bugs. If you simply don't want to be a Debian package maintainer for lilo anymore, why not ask for volunteers to take over for you? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze / new lilo upstream

2010-06-06 Thread Stephen Powell
some way. We lilo users are very grateful to you for your willingness to take over. By the way, did anyone ever find out what happened to John Coffman? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian

[SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Stephen Powell
g the Lenny environment" will work in Squeeze or Sid also, provided that you use only official stock Debian kernels. If you use custom kernels in Squeeze or later, you *must* use hook scripts to ensure that any post-installation activities, such as the creation of an initial

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:40:41 -0400 (EDT), Andreas Barth wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 23:39:52 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: >>> After some discussion about lilo on #debian-devel in IRC, it has pretty >>> much been determined that kernel

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 29 May 2010 10:51:10 -0400 (EDT), Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:42:34 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> You're missing the point. The main selling point to management >> is that Linux is free. If they have to buy new backup software >&g

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 28 May 2010 16:44:11 -0400 (EDT), Peter Samuelson wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> It *does* recognize lilo and has special logic to patch lilo after >> the restore so that the machine will boot. > > So can this software be fooled into thinking it is dealing wit

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-28 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 May 2010 13:12:27 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> No software is entirely without cost ... >> volunteers work on whatever they like ... >> your specific requirements may differ from their goals ... >> volunteers are ra

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-26 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 26 May 2010 00:23:04 -0400 (EDT), Daniel Baumann wrote: > On 05/26/2010 03:36 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> ... >> That works for now; but if a package upgrade for extlinux is ever >> downloaded, I'm afraid that new versions of the hook scripts will >> be cop

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:10:38 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> ... I installed the mbr package ... > > The extlinux package itself also contains an mbr.bin, which you can use > (it's strong point is probably EBIOS support). So it does. W

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 May 2010 12:03:17 -0400 (EDT), Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> You're missing the point. The main selling point to management >> is that Linux is free. > > No software is entirely without cost. Free Software is no except

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 25 May 2010 11:51:11 -0400 (EDT), Mark > On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:29:54 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote: >>> Stephen Powell wrote: >>>> (3) The need for special backup requirements will be >>>

Re: Re (2): lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:29:54 -0400 (EDT), Peter Easthope wrote: > Stephen Powell wrote: >> (3) The need for special backup requirements will be >> used by the opponents of Linux at my place of employment >> to oppose further deployments of Linux, ... > > What about th

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
cause there is no maintainer to download a new upstream version, is not a reasonable request in my humble opinion. Get a maintainer for it, fix the known bugs, and *then* ask the users to test it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UN

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-25 Thread Stephen Powell
Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Stephen Powell writes: >> >> Both grub-legacy and grub-pc use sectors on the hard disk outside of >> the master boot record and outside of a partition ... > > You may want to try extlinux, it works much like LILO in this respect. Well, I tried ex

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:38:55 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Stephen Powell writes: >> On Mon, 24 May 2010 05:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: >>> Stephen Powell writes: >>>> Both grub-legacy and grub-pc use sectors on the hard disk outside

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:01:30 -0400 (EDT), Edward Allcutt wrote: > On Mon, 24 May 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: >> To the best of my knowledge, lilo is the *only* bootloader which supports >> setting an initial text video mode *and* does not use any sectors outside >> the m

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-24 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 24 May 2010 05:29:56 -0400 (EDT), Ferenc Wagner wrote: > Stephen Powell writes: >> >> Both grub-legacy and grub-pc use sectors on the hard disk outside of >> the master boot record [...] This breaks the design of the backup >> software that my employer uses. Th

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-24 Thread Stephen Powell
about Jordi Mallach and Colin Watson? The package page for grub-pc http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/grub-pc lists them as maintainers too. Have they disappeared as well? Or are they no longer maintainers for this package? In which case their names should

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 23 May 2010 16:11:30 -0400 (EDT), William Pitcock wrote: > "Stephen Powell" wrote: >> (blah blah blah blah) > > Nobody cares if you are opposed to it. Unless you are offering to become > lilo upstream, it's going away. > > William I do understa

Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")

2010-05-23 Thread Stephen Powell
All I can do is to appeal in the name of reason that it not be dropped. Also, please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is this "payload size" to which you refer? Is that the same thing as the size of the kernel? Or is it something else? -- .''`. Stephen Po

Re: Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-06-01 Thread Stephen Powell
Well shut my mouth! I did some testing this past weekend, as I said I would, and results are better than expected. First, leaving things the way I had them configured (X pointing to /dev/gpmdata and gpm pointing to /dev/psaux, I unplugged the PS/2 mouse from the mouse port. The mouse became dead

Re: Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-05-30 Thread Stephen Powell
Since my initial post I have done some research on the subject of mouse support in the Linux kernel. I can see now why my suggestion was met with such strong opposition: it goes counter to the direction the kernel has been going since 2.5. With such a sweeping redesign of mouse support since 2.4,

Re: Re: Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-05-29 Thread Stephen Powell
> With current kernels, if you use /dev/input/mice, the > port can be shared > by gpm and X at the same time, and all mice you connect > (no matter what) > show up in that device. Thanks for the update on mouse sharing in newer kernels. I didn't realize that this support had been added. That doe

Mouse configuration during installation needs improvement

2008-05-27 Thread Stephen Powell
Per the suggestion of Jérémy Bobbio when he closed Bug # 481514 against installation-reports, I am posting this item to the debian-devel mailing list. The Debian installer needs some improvement when it comes to mouse configuration. Currently, if the user requests a "standard system" and a "deskt