Re: Proposed MBF: packages still using nose

2022-08-21 Thread Neil Williams
unittest from Python standard > library [6]. There is a script called nose2pytest [7] which can > assist with migrating from nose to pytest. xraylarch (U) Fixed in git. -- Neil Williams = https://linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpnnISiYOXxe.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Bug#1008970: ITP: pyimagetool -- Image Tool for multidimensional analysis

2022-04-05 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: pyimagetool Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Kyle Gordon * URL : https://github.com/kgord831/PyImageTool * License : GPL3

Bug#1008566: ITP: xrt -- XRay Tracer and wave propagation

2022-03-28 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: xrt Version : 1.4.0-1 Upstream Author : Konstantin Klementiev * URL : https://github.com/kklmn/xrt * License : Expat

Bug#1008144: ITP: looktxt -- Convert free format text file into scientific data formats

2022-03-23 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: looktxt Version : 1.5-1 Upstream Author : Emmanuel Farhi * URL : https://github.com/farhi/looktxt * License : GPL-2

Bug#1006607: ITP: epicsapps -- Collection of applications for EPICS

2022-02-28 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: epicsapps Version : 0.9.2 Upstream Author : Matthew Newville * URL : https://github.com/pyepics/epicsapps * License : EPICS

Bug#1005764: ITP: wxutils -- wxPython utilities and convenience functions

2022-02-14 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: wxutils Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Matthew Newville * URL : https://github.com/newville/wxutils * License : Expat

Bug#1005763: ITP: wxmplot -- wxPython plotting widgets using matplotlib

2022-02-14 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: wxmplot Version : 0.9.46 Upstream Author : Matthew Newville * URL : https://github.com/newville/wxmplot * License : Expat

Bug#1005114: ITP: python-model-bakery -- smart object creation facility for Django (Python 3 version)

2022-02-07 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: python-model-bakery Version : 1.4.0 Upstream Author : berinfontes * URL : https://github.com/model-bakers/model_bakery * License

Bug#1004958: ITP: xraydb -- X-ray Reference Data

2022-02-04 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: xraydb Version : 4.4.7 Upstream Author : Matthew Newville * URL : https://github.com/xraypy/XrayDB * License : Public domain

Bug#1003950: ITP: pyobjcryst -- Object-Oriented Crystallographic Library Python3 bindings

2022-01-18 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: pyobjcryst Version : 2.2.1-1 Upstream Author : Prof. Simon Billinge * URL : https://github.com/diffpy/pyobjcryst * License

Bug#1001380: ITP: libobjcryst -- Object-Oriented Crystallographic Library for C++

2021-12-09 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: libobjcryst Version : 2021.1.1-1 Upstream Author : Vincent Favre-Nicolin vinc...@users.sourceforge.net * URL : https://github.com

Bug#1000444: ITP: horae -- interactive graphical processing and analysis of EXAFS data

2021-11-23 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: horae Version : 071~svn537-3 Upstream Author : Bruce Ravel * URL : https://github.com/bruceravel/horae * License : custom

Bug#996254: ITP: python-platformdirs -- Determine appropriate platform-specific data directories

2021-10-12 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: python-platformdirs Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : Bernát Gábor * URL : https://github.com/platformdirs/platformdirs * License : MIT

Bug#996203: ITP: ifeffit -- Interactive XAFS analysis program

2021-10-12 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: ifeffit Version : 2:1.2.11d-11 Upstream Author : Matt Newville * URL : https://cars.uchicago.edu/ifeffit/Documentation * License

Bug#995819: ITP: xrstools -- x-ray Raman scattering tools

2021-10-06 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: xrstools Version : 0.15.0+git20210910+c147919d-1 Upstream Author : European Synchrotron Radiation Facility * URL : https

Bug#995371: ITP: navarp -- Navigation tool for ARPES data

2021-09-30 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: navarp Version : 1.0.0-1 Upstream Author : Federico Bisti * URL : https://gitlab.com/fbisti/navarp * License : GPL3

Bug#994936: ITP: dmrgpp -- Density matrix renormalization group algorithm

2021-09-23 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: dmrgpp Version : 6.00-1 Upstream Author : Gonzalo Alvarez * URL : https://github.com/g1257/dmrgpp * License : UT Battelle

Bug#994549: ITP: clpeak -- Profile OpenCL devices to find peak capacities

2021-09-17 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, codeh...@debian.org * Package name: clpeak Version : 1.1.0-1 Upstream Author : Krishnaraj Bhat * URL : https://github.com/krrishnarraj/clpeak * License : The

Bug#910566: ITP: pyocd -- ARM Cortex-M programming tools (Python3)

2018-10-08 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: pyocd Version : 0.12.0+dfsg Upstream Author : ARM Limited * URL : https://github.com/mbedmicro/pyOCD * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : ARM Cortex-M

Bug#910565: ITP: intelhex -- Intel HEX microcontroller format support for Python

2018-10-08 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: intelhex Version : 2.1 Upstream Author : 2005-2016 Alexander Belchenko * URL : https://github.com/bialix/intelhex * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Intel HEX

Bug#910564: ITP: mando -- command line argument parser for python

2018-10-08 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: mando Version : 0.6.4 Upstream Author : 2013 Michele Lacchia * URL : https://github.com/rubik/mando * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : command line argument

Bug#910563: ITP: radon -- Code metric generator for python

2018-10-08 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: radon Version : 2.3.1 Upstream Author : 2012-2017 Michele Lacchia * URL : https://github.com/rubik/radon * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Code metric generator

Bug#909562: ITP: black -- uncompromising Python code formatter

2018-09-25 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: black Version : 18.6b4 Upstream Author : Łukasz Langa * URL : https://github.com/ambv/black * License : BSD-3-Clause Programming Lang: Python Description : uncompromising Python

Re: Computing Build-Depends at build time (and other updates to debian/control)?

2016-08-23 Thread Neil Williams
cares about architectures, another large area where Debian needs to have precise and accurate details. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpOruIt8X7yL.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: TMPDIR - Do we also need a drive backed TPMDIR ?

2016-07-21 Thread Neil Williams
ows may be hit by this. > > Should there be another TPMDIR? Like DTMPDIR, pointing to the > underneath disk, where size is limited by the capacity available to > partition/disk ? > > This could allow developers to choose one over the other based on > their needs. It could als

Re: Policy 12.3: should I rename?

2016-07-17 Thread Neil Williams
install > to /usr/share/doc/libargtable2-doc. Am I missing some option that > would make that easy? debhelper is doing the right thing. /usr/share/doc/libargtable2-doc/ is correct as the package name is foo-doc (it's not the source package name, it's the binary package

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#817092: Bug#817092: this browserified

2016-07-11 Thread Neil Williams
er > freedoms based on the software being free, and being a good citizen > within the free software community. Saying that you must be a good > citizen to exercise the grants of the free software license goes > against the principle of free software. That is obviously absurd.

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#817092: Bug#817092: this browserified

2016-07-11 Thread Neil Williams
ose changes in ways that do not match how upstream would accept those changes for inclusion into a future release may follow the letter of the licence but it certainly is not being a good community citizen. It can be enough hassle for upstream when patches don't apply, let alone when the effect of the patch has to first be converted to a different format. Debian needs to encourage things that make collaboration easy, upstream and downstream. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpzNgFdVEgys.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Browserified files and DFSG

2016-07-11 Thread Neil Williams
symlinks: https://sources.debian.net/src/lava-server/2016.6-2/share/javascript.py/ and a file (in this case maintained by upstream) to specify handling: https://sources.debian.net/src/lava-server/2016.6-2/share/javascript.yaml/ This is then just called from debian/rules: https://sources.debian.net/

Re: third-party packages adding apt sources

2016-05-19 Thread Neil Williams
quot; or "wise" to add backports and install packages from backports. Packages which may have a history that has caused such reactions need to be brought in line. > This is a 100% larger conversation, and it's not about a hacky deb, > it's about how our plac

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 08 May 2016 07:18:40 -0400 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2016-05-08 at 03:45, Neil Williams wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 May 2016 00:51:57 +0200 Pierre Ynard > > wrote: > > Even if running unstable, I would certainly expect that something > which is known to break ce

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
able. That's why the advice is to move this box to stable - ask for backports of any packages which need updates from testing. You have four years to decide whether to replace this hardware or continue running jessie without support. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp3rfDRI8DYQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#823465: dpkg: Won't run at all on i586 Pentium MMX due to illegal instruction

2016-05-05 Thread Neil Williams
lease notes somewhere? > I'm sure they will be there in the stretch release notes. Adding the bug back to CC. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpDAjcwennXO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
on of apt. > This involves a lot of keypresses, and I'm incredibly lazy ;) > I was just wondering if apt could be more interactive, or if it is a > design choice not to ask too many questions. If you want interactive, use aptitude or synaptic. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpZ08fn8x7ew.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Opt out style recommends

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
ady shows you which packages are to be brought in as Recommends on every invocation and unless you use the -y option you get the option to quit. You can already choose to quit and call apt with the --no-install-recommends option for this specific invocation of apt. -- Neil Williams = ht

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 00:02:08 + (UTC) Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 17:16:18 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 15:27:48 + (UTC) > > Felipe Sateler wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:18:10 +0200, Ondřej Surý

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
Also, packages may provide services to a lot more users than just the ones with it and popcon installed. There are many the packages which depend on a webserver of some kind - a single install can have many thousands of users. popcon data can be handy for humans who bother to go after the package-s

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
oolchain changes. Clearer records exist at ci.debian.net. > I get the impression that more upstream packages have built-in tests > that can be run as part of dpkg-buildpackage (e.g Python, Perl, Ruby, > Java and Go) but maybe that's just because I've been working in those > environments recently. Not all unit test suites can run during the build. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpUEiH363o2e.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Overall bitrot, package reviews and fast(er) unmaintained package removals

2016-04-06 Thread Neil Williams
rocess *is* to forcibly orphan the package?) The individual metrics need to be aggregated to a score but fine tuning that score algorithm is more work than most people want to do on packages which are already uninteresting. What has happened in the past is that a BSP close to a release has had a

Re: arch all package's missing dependency on i386 prevents testing migration

2016-03-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:42:53 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:25:26 -0700 > > Afif Elghraoui wrote: > >> The package in question, circlator, depends on two > >> architecture-dependent packages that can only

Re: arch all package's missing dependency on i386 prevents testing migration

2016-03-29 Thread Neil Williams
rimarily so that the relevant dependencies can exist to allow the package to not only be installed but to actually *work*. > Is there something I can do to help fix this? New upload which is not Arch:all. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpcyVWP1eobQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:21:15 +0100 Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 08:39:02 +0000, Neil Williams > wrote: > >On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 09:07:56 +0100 > >Marc Haber wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 17 Jan 2016 00:20:33 +0100, Michael Biebl > >> wrote:

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-17 Thread Neil Williams
and bug reports, right up until the last steps of the release. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpzTpNsrKaLV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-09 Thread Neil Williams
correct *if* the original prefix is retained - and it shouldn't overly worry any developers. It's a necessary step to actually getting a release. However, this is so far off-topic now that it is pointless to continue. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpAFN0gH052q.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-05 Thread Neil Williams
. It just depends on what gets enabled in the kernel. There's some things to do if that is to be an NFS boot but that's manageable too, depending on the kernel config. Debian kernels don't have that config (and don't need it), but then if you've got a Debian kernel, y

Re: outdated/ packaging style -- all packages (my)

2015-12-28 Thread Neil Williams
is-list: false > uploaders-count: 0 > comaintenance: 0 Classic debhelper, not dh. This is not necessarily a problem. > What's wrong ? What do I have to do ? 0: Follow the instructions on Lucas' page more carefully. 1: Decide whether anything actually needs to be done for po-d

Re: django-ajax-selects lintian errors/warnings

2015-11-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 20:41:15 +1100 Brian May wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > > So the reference to bootstrap.js needs to be patched out to refer > > to a static location which can be put in place using a Depends in > > debian/rules. > > Still trying to work

Re: django-ajax-selects lintian errors/warnings

2015-11-15 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 15 Nov 2015 11:42:31 +1100 Brian May wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > >> E: python3-ajax-select: privacy-breach-uses-embedded-file > >> usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/ajax_select/static/ajax_select/js/bootstrap.js > >> You may use libjs-jquery-ui

Re: copyright files can be generated by cme (was Re: Copyright file granularity)

2015-11-14 Thread Neil Williams
tual packages that may need the tool. Even with a trivial package, scan-copyrights produces output which if used as debian/copyright would get rejected by lintian and ftpmaster. Much more work needs to be done, IMHO, especially considering the dozens of dependencies which typically ne

Re: django-ajax-selects lintian errors/warnings

2015-11-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:23:38 +1100 Brian May wrote: > Hello, > > For django-ajax-selects in git[1] I am getting the following errors > and warnings: Many of these need work upstream, some can be replaced with symlinks, some are not packaged in Debian due to problems with the minifier used in th

Re: DAK Commands for Bikesheds

2015-09-17 Thread Neil Williams
*actually do a release*). It looks like a shed, it sounds like a shed, it's a shed. There is no time or appetite for another round of bikeshedding and we don't need more TLAs, please allow dak to get me a bikeshed soon! please! -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpsevALwj1Dv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: version format for git snapshot

2015-09-14 Thread Neil Williams
d it to the version. ava-dispatcher 2015.9.3908.875bd74-1 amd64 The rev-list takes care of the hash not being a reliable sort as the hash is effectively hidden from the sort algorithm. It's added because it's a simple way of looking up the commit on gitolite etc. -- Neil Williams = http://

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 17:54:30 +0200 Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 4 septembre 2015 09:32 +0100, Neil Williams >  : > > [Applying patch to pre-minification source] > >> Getting the same min.js is not a goal (we don't try to get the same > >> binaries than ups

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 10:07:13 +0200 Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 4 septembre 2015 08:29 +0100, Neil Williams >  : > > > For those upstreams who have to embed JS not available in Debian, > > then the upstream code often cannot be processed in Debian, neither > > can th

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-04 Thread Neil Williams
ss we solve the problem of being able to apply security fixes, the location of the package within the archive is completely irrelevant. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgptJ5nnQ8Zhk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Neil Williams
he security problems worse by introducing it's own bugs by not building the .min.js in the same way as the JS upstream. It's also about implementing a method which allows JS maintainers to keep up to date with JS upstreams so that embedding upstreams don't have to do any of this in the first place. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgprkWwZuZgRK.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 13:14:31 -0400 Marvin Renich wrote: > * Neil Williams [150902 10:22]: > > Upstream is another recipient of code distributed under copyleft. > > Having changes in a format which upstream can use is absolutely a > > sensible and sane criterion for what is

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-09-02 Thread Neil Williams
ges in a format which is suitable for modification and that includes the work of modification required to incorporate those changes into the next upstream release. To rule out upstream requirements is nonsense. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpw8VDlMGOXt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Security concerns with minified javascript code

2015-08-28 Thread Neil Williams
SS tool to do this? Is it all just special snowflake optimisations for what has to be / should be a simple process of removing whitespace and collapsing the formatting? Usable software needs usable tools. As a likely victim of the result(s) of this discussion, I'm going to say right now that I'

Re: GoogleCode, gitorious and codehaus.org end of life, expected URL breakage ahead!

2015-08-26 Thread Neil Williams
e only packages which are directly affected by this EOL are those with the specified domains as the first column? (Typically, this kind of announcement is done by identifying the packages likely to be affected and passing that list to dd-list rather than what looks more like a pre-generated

Re: Metapackage dependencies: "Depends" or "Recommends"?

2015-07-29 Thread Neil Williams
end on this metapackage; they will rather > depend on the individual programs. > > Or am I abusing the metapackage system here? Different use cases, I think. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpXD1efR2AVd.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug#790685: ITP: python-conditional -- conditionally enter a context manager

2015-07-01 Thread Neil Williams
into which this can be included instead of wasting mirror space on the whole packaging overhead? (Listing in Packages.gz, Contents.gz, mirrors, packages.debian.org and /var/cache/apt/ etc.) Or just add it to a utils.py in the project which uses it? -- Neil Williams = http://www.

Re: Bug#790685: ITP: python-conditional -- conditionally enter a context manager

2015-06-30 Thread Neil Williams
manager. An entire package for just 18 lines of python? 3 of those lines are docstring. Even if a few packages import it, it doesn't really seem worth packaging separately. Just wondering. https://github.com/stefanholek/conditional/blob/master/conditional/conditional.py -- Neil Will

Re: GooString

2015-06-26 Thread Neil Williams
poppler/0.26.5-2/utils/pdftotext.cc/?hl=166#L166 That leads here: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/poppler and then to http://poppler.freedesktop.org/, which leads to http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/poppler -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp0NLU_8PFML.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

2015-06-14 Thread Neil Williams
ilding shared > libraries without really understanding how they work, but it's so > hard to properly manage library upgrades without symbol versioning. Yet these are precisely the packages (and upstreams) which are most in need of such a requirement. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgppkkShkwh1J.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Regarding Debian development

2015-06-02 Thread Neil Williams
ian.org/ to see the version available in stable and other suites. However, as Paul mentions, what actually gets installed is dependent on what options you choose in the installer. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpizMr7Qb92R.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: debchange / git-buildpackage: custom version naming

2015-05-19 Thread Neil Williams
Debian, not Fedora or Arch and that means that if you change it, you are maintaining a fork, not just making packaging changes. > We work on Ubuntu 14.10 and use debchange and > git-buildpackage (thanks to Neil Williams > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/05/msg00375.html) as

Re: How continuous is debci?

2015-05-17 Thread Neil Williams
s for these packages quite regularly but something does seem to be wrong at some level. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpVeWAhfDqMy.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Modern Debian packaging system for DevOps: does it exist?

2015-05-15 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 14 May 2015 23:25:20 +0200 Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 14 mai 2015 14:57 +0100, Neil Williams  : > > >> More seriously, but this needs some additional work, it should be > >> easier to manage persistent build dependencies. The first time you > >> build a

Re: Modern Debian packaging system for DevOps: does it exist?

2015-05-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:45:01 +0200 Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 14 mai 2015 14:02 +0100, Neil Williams  : > > >> 1. Gitlab; > >> 2. Isolated build environment inside Docker containers (where we > >> usually do `git clone && mk-build-deps &&

Re: Modern Debian packaging system for DevOps: does it exist?

2015-05-14 Thread Neil Williams
can be sufficiently flexible. Personally, my own build needs have essentially gone away as my development is now almost exclusively in python (and a tiny bit of perl). git-buildpackage is all we need and this codebase has no requirement for any isolation beyond the simplest chroot - and even that

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 May 2015 20:36:25 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Neil Williams, le Wed 06 May 2015 12:03:30 +0100, a écrit : > > If the patch *is* trivial and testable then it is up to the porters > > to arrange a fully tested NMU. > > How can a porter fully test a package? On

Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
ference: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#override-file So, no, there isn't something broken - the uploader needs to file the bug as set out in the developer reference. (BTW - the problems section doesn't transfer to the tracker version, so this notice is onl

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 May 2015 12:49:44 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Neil Williams, le Wed 06 May 2015 11:39:29 +0100, a écrit : > > It's not at all that the maintainers are "lazy" or that those > > maintainers could have done anything differently. Those maintainers > >

Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
ilar in DI - standard system utilities could include more packages than a simple debootstrap would provide, like cron and others. Maybe we need to split the discussion based on what should be in a minimal debootstrap and what should be in standard system utilities in DI? -- Neil Wi

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 May 2015 18:18:34 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > > > You've admitted that the port cannot keep pace because it needs > > changes to be made by maintainers who do not see the port as a > > particular pri

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 May 2015 11:35:45 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Neil Williams, le Wed 06 May 2015 09:47:36 +0100, a écrit : > > Lack of widespread interest in any particular port is a problem with > > that port not having widespread appeal. > > And lack of helping maintainers

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 6 May 2015 10:11:02 +0200 Samuel Thibault wrote: > Neil Williams, le Wed 06 May 2015 08:56:38 +0100, a écrit : > > Ports which take so long to develop that a stable release is > > deemed unlikely will also struggle. That is a problem caused by that > > port, not by

Re: Debian Archive architecture removals

2015-05-06 Thread Neil Williams
not create a precedent for, or necessarily have any applicability for, non-release ports. 5: All non-release architecture ports are unofficial and the decision on release architectures is down to the release team. How does that sound? -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codeh

Re: Bug#783833: ITP: python-obitools -- set of programs specifically designed for analyzing NGS data in a DNA metabarcoding contex

2015-05-01 Thread Neil Williams
ave a "removal timebomb" already primed. Use a bespoke repository which is available to the people who actually use it - you may find that it is simpler to then only build the package against current stable as that is probably what users are actually running. [0] https://qa.debian.org/dev

Re: GitHub “pull request” is proprietary, incomp atible with Git ‘request-pull’

2015-04-21 Thread Neil Williams
I'm also not sure that I could be that intermediary due to a likely lack of time. There really isn't a good reason to not have multiple remotes and pull from whichever the contributor is best able to use. It makes no sense for a team to actively block the distributed side of git. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp1nxcAxoJYT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
by github users, we are happy to oblige as the setup is trivial and it "just works". (So I'm in Linaro and Debian organisations now on github. Yay!) -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp92vtlLHcr9.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’

2015-04-19 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:00:33 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Neil Williams writes: > > > On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:55:17 +1000 > > Ben Finney wrote: > > > > > GitHub's pull request feature is proprietary to GitHub, it can > > > only work between

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 18 Apr 2015 18:04:40 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > > > git won the DVCS argument a long time ago. github won the DVCS UI > > argument a long time ago - it is clearly the one UI that the > > largest number of g

Re: GitHub “pull request” is useful and can be easily integrated'’ (was: debian github organization ?)

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
ey have chosen (or have never been aware they made the choice) to > make it much harder to interact with them using the existing, > standard, federated Git ‘request-pull’ feature, instead opting to > exclude anyone who doesn't want an account on a specific vendor's > service. Sorr

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
umm, no - really, no and neither should it become so. Github provides that service and the people who are offering this code want to use it. Why would I refuse to use that service to open up my own locked-down server without the admin hassle of creating hundreds of new accounts? The people are

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
otes? github.com/debian is a very useful service and I intend to use it fully. I think a lot more Debian folk and a lot more upstream folk should too. It's a hub, use it as a hub, as one of your remotes. Why not use the biggest, easiest hub to reach the biggest number of potential contributors? What's not to like? -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpWHS151aLMJ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
ush" command. Alioth cannot be another github, random other upstreams cannot be another github. Sourceforge well, just no really. Github is exactly that - a hub. Use it to push the code out from within the access constraints of a typical upstream project. It's easy for o

Re: selinux-policy-default missing in jessie

2015-04-17 Thread Neil Williams
cember 2014 and has 3 RC bugs. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/refpolicy So it depends on your need for binaries provided by refpolicy. If I understand it correctly, existing policies will work and policies can still be defined but the default references have unfixed release-criticial

Re: debian github organization ?

2015-04-16 Thread Neil Williams
bian organisation on github? (Ping me off-list if the potential number of enquirers would be unmanageable.) -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpJkh7_pJ_BQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Changing the ACL policy for alioth projects (Was: Unable to push debian-jr changes)

2015-03-31 Thread Neil Williams
t any DD from writing to their VCS. > > Any opinions? I don't want have write permissions on every project on Alioth and I don't see that others need write permissions to repos not in collab-maint. Submit a bug and a patch, just like everyone else. -- Neil Williams ===

Bug#779189: ITP: django-kvstore -- Extensible key-value store backend for Django

2015-02-25 Thread Neil Williams
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil Williams * Package name: django-kvstore Version : 1.0-1 Upstream Author : 2010 Six Apart Ltd. * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-kvstore * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-21 Thread Neil Williams
package names and work nicely with together - that includes working with the Debian versions of the same upstream. The technical issues can be fixed with bug reports. It's only if there is a particularly toxic social relationship between Debian and upstream that a packag

Re: conflicts between Debian's and upstream's Debian package

2015-02-21 Thread Neil Williams
quot;bad" .deb which ignores Policy and breaks your system completely. It is in everyone's interest that the Debian package has the same name as the source package released by upstream - unless there is a different package, from a different upstream, already in the archive with that name or the upstream uses a inappropriate or overly generic name. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgp3cRkviula1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: moving to multiarch for packages with plugins

2015-02-18 Thread Neil Williams
arch. Conflict with (or add Breaks depending on how you wnat to do it) for the relevant version of that metapackage in the versions which implement multiarch. Document in the current version that third-party plugins must Provide: this metapackage for future support to work. -- Neil Williams =

Re: GUI Configuration tool for main Debian window managers

2015-01-06 Thread Neil Williams
pting configuration tools. Those often need custom modules to work with particular packages but at least those modules do not have to become part of the main archive - it makes the security issues local to the admins. -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpuvbgnYty0F.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: dpkg packaging problems

2015-01-02 Thread Neil Williams
f the /usr/lib directory. Such files are exempt from the rules that govern ordinary shared libraries, except that they must not be installed executable and should be stripped. A common example are the so-called "plug-ins", internal shared objects that are dynamically loaded by programs

Re: Can/should we have an efi/efi-any platform architecture?

2014-12-11 Thread Neil Williams
ildd support. With linux-any it relies on a list of architectures in a table in dpkg - the same could be done for other groups. The mechanisms exist, the question is how many other variants would be created by adopting this? -- Neil Williams = http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/ pgpaT0kgbPNR0.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-30 Thread Neil Williams
m where we are or contribute elsewhere. Contribute code or stop wasting everyone's time on the mailing lists. Nothing will change without someone doing the work - whatever the issue. If that isn't you, then do everyone a favour and stop posting to these endless threads. Come in

Re: splitting source packages

2014-11-27 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:24:12 +0100 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Neil Williams: > > By having separate source packages, a stable API becomes mandatory. > > You're correct in that it is easier to keep an API stable when you > have separate repositories. But t

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