Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
** Matthew Garrett :: > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it? I seemed to recall that the MPL contained a > > choice-of-venue clause, and that -legal deemed choice-of-venue > > as non-free, because imposes a burden on the licensee in case of > > litigation. > > "-legal

RE: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
** Sebastian Ley :: > Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2005 16:20 schrieb Humberto Massa Guimarães: > > > > Does calling it "firefox" or "thunderbird" hurt "free software"? > > > > At first, no. But it *does* hurt our users. Why? Because they are > > confident that getting something from the Debian mirror,

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
* Matthew Garrett :: > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Obviously, I'm assuming that we are redistributing Firefox under > > the terms of the GPL because IIRC the MPL is not DFSG-free. > > This is, uh, debated. Is it? I seemed to recall that the MPL contained a choice-o

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-14 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
* Julien BLACHE :: > Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> We drop their products from Debian, they lose market share. We > >> drop their trademarks, and *we* lose market share: "eh, wtf, > >> Debian hasn't got firefox? mozilla? thunderbird? sunbird? > >> omgwtf $DISTRO has th

Re: Structured (XML-like) input/output for shell apps?

2005-06-13 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Not necessarily. Just as you have "tableout" as an external > > command (built-in or not) in Monad, you can have a Perl module > > to print things in a tabular manner, expanding the column sizes > > as needed (based on HTML::Fo

Re: Structured (XML-like) input/output for shell apps?

2005-06-13 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
* Olaf :: > On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Yes, and I withdraw :-) what I said about XML. But *any* > > serialization / deserialization necessary for this scheme to > > work would add (unnecessary) overhead. This and the fact that > > you would > > Well, if y

Re: Structured (XML-like) input/output for shell apps?

2005-06-13 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
* Olaf :: > On 6/13/05, Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > printf "%-50.50s %d\n", $_, -s $_ for <*.ab> > > > > in Perl. The domain is necessary anyway, ie, you have to know > > Monad to understand the first, you have to know perl to grok the > > second. > > Except that in

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
Matt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem. > > Years using Linux: 10. Idem here > > Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM was installed: 0. Mine: 30 o