Bug#785703: ITP: python-oath -- implementation of the three main OATH specifications

2015-05-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Goswin von Brederlow * Package name: python-oath Version : 1.4.0 Upstream Author : Benjamin Dauvergne * URL : https://github.com/bdauvergne/python-oath * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description

Bug#777043: ITP: libshark -- Shark Machine Learning Library

2015-02-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Goswin von Brederlow * Package name: libshark Version : 3.0.11 Upstream Author : Institut fuer Neuroinformatik, Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum * URL : http://image.diku.dk/shark/ * License : GPL-3.0+ Programming Lang: C

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-07-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:07:59PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 18 July 2013 14:45:38 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > [snip] > > - Option 3: > > > > (Note: I'm assuming you are generating API docs directly fromt the > > sou

Re: Updating /etc/hosts automatically / behavior of sed command

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 10:14:54AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > Tad Frank wrote: > > Your issue lies in the line: sed -e "s/$REGISTERED_IP/$CURRENT_IP/g" > > /etc/hosts > /etc/hosts.new > > I searched debian-devel for the message to which you are responding; > the most recent message with that sub

Re: Why not to let all DDs to execute "gb"-command

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 09:15:48AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:43:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 07:56:24PM +0200, Anton Gladky wrote: > > > So, I think the developer should have a set of tools (including gb and > > > even "sli

Re: ITP: vmdebootstrap -- Bootstrap Debian into a (virtual machine) disk image

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 10:22:27PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Neil Williams > > * Package name: vmdebootstrap > Version : 0.1.0 > Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius > * URL : https://gitorious.org/vmdebootstrap > * License

Re: On accepting pre-generated doc from upstream

2013-07-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 11:35:46PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Hi everyone. First of all, I'm cross-posting this between legal and devel > because I really don't know to which of them belongs (or maybe it does in > both). > > The issue is this: Qt 5 has grown so large (8

Re: GNU config (config.sub/guess) is now GPLv3 with additional permission

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 03:08:59PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 06:44:00PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Upstream has changed the license to GPLv3. It has an additional > > permission to negate any "viral effects", but it only applies to > > packages that i

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 10:41:10AM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: > > examples would be useful > > I have no big problem pointing fingers on d-d. > > Example 1: Dan Jacobson > > This: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=707759 > Or this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug

Re: Forming a Debian bugsquad team (Was: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines))

2013-06-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 09:01:40PM +0200, Ond??ej Surý wrote: > If we are to form the Debian bugsquad team similar to Ubuntu bugsquad team, > the main two questions would be: > > 1. As a Debian Developer/Maintainer would you be thankful for other people > to come and help with bugs in your package

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 11:36:53AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 01:10:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 03:42:06PM +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: > Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 15:36:02, Julien Cristau a écrit : > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 14:14:20 +0200, Thomas Preud'homme wrote: > > > Also, it wouldn't help for the case of a binNMU on a subset of all arches > > > since only som

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 02:40:39AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Steve Langasek [2013-05-11 09:33 -0700]: > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:22:10AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was > > > t

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:21:33PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:03:34AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > I think that, to convince people that flexibility won't cause stability > > and complexity problems, you're going to need to present a complete and > > fairly bulle

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:44:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 08:52:29PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Being able to choose between two entirely different desktop > > environments, with different user experiences, is a good thing. > > Being able to choose between two /

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 02:40:39AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Steve Langasek [2013-05-11 09:33 -0700]: > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:22:10AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was > > > t

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 05:29:45PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-05-11 11:22 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > While that might be of some interest the real goal of the change was > > to be able to have more than *2* packages provide /bin/sh. > > > >

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 09:43:02PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote... > > > 2) No more packages that bypass the package management system and secure > > apt: > > a) There are still several (typically non-free) packages which download > > stuff from the web, install o

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:17:06PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-05-07 23:53:07 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Now please, do the same reasoning with some other services, > > like Apache, pure-ftpd, or bind, and explain to me why you would > > like to have these installed, but not worki

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 05:06:26PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 12.05.2013 16:18, schrieb Daniel Schepler: > > Maybe we could have a release goal of dropping as many lib32* and lib64* > > packages as possible in favor of multi-arch. (And also as many package > > dependencies on libc6-[i386|am

Re: Source build-dependencies

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 06:03:30PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-09 10:46 +0200]: > > On Thu, 9 May 2013 10:10:01 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > * source build dependencies (such that e.g binutils-mingw-w64 build > > > depends on src:binutils instead of binutils-source) >

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:26:15PM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:39:28 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow > wrote: > > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > > > The big issue which crops up then isn't so much the directory struc

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:09:53PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > [ dropped -release and -wb-team ] > > Jonathan Nieder writes: > > One problem that that doesn't solve is what to do when a package would > > be able to borrow its /doc/ directory from another package > > (using a symlink

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 06:04:58PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Montag, 13. Mai 2013, Guillem Jover wrote: > > The only thing the metadata solution would need now, is changing > > packaging helper, all packages not using a helper, and changelog and > > copyright extractors to look firs

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:31:54AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 05/13/2013 10:22 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > > >On 05/13/2013 09:46 AM, Wookey wrote: > > >>Hmm. Do the parts of the 64-bit tree that the 32-bit side compiles > >>against end up installed in a final installation (as libraries?) or >

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:55:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 05/09/2013 11:59 AM, Wookey wrote: > > >+++ Goswin von Brederlow [2013-05-09 11:39 +0200]: > > >>I would say that a foreign dependency on a library is never right. > > > >That's too stro

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-05-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 03:21:35PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:48:06AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Both cases would need data for multiple archs. > > > > For the second case if identical files are in all foo_arch.deb then >

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 12:03:43PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 11:50:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > If you make /usr a symlink to / then there will be to distinct paths > > to each file and that will confuse dpkg. > > > > The first

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:07:18AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 9 May 2013 18:17:29 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > >On May 09, "Bernhard R. Link" wrote: > >> Or in other words: to make essential functionality not available if > >> /usr is broken. > >Again: this is not we are di

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:14:07AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > with wheezy released and development on jessie started the problem with > binNMUs for multiarch-enabled packages is back: binNMU'ed packages have > different changelog entries and upgrades fail (for example [1]). > > [1

Re: epoch fix?

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 11:53:46AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-05-10 02:01:15 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Seems nobody is picking-up on the topic, so I'll try > > once more, because I'm convince there's something > > we could do here. How about replacing epoch separator > > char :

Re: wheezy postmortem re rc bugfixing

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 04:51:14PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > * Consider other ways in which our RC-bug-fixing efforts can be >improved, especially during the latter part of the freeze. I think one way to improve hard to reproduce bugs or bugs in uncommon package would be to get more users i

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 04:59:28PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Goswin von Brederlow [2013-05-09 11:39 +0200]: > > On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > > > On 2013-05-09 07:56, Paul Wise wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-05-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:09:06PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Will that also detect files in multiarch packages that are not identical? > > No, it does not do this at the moment. The main reason here is t

Re: [Popcon-developers] encrypted popcon submissions

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:43:25AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:44:25PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > On Fri, 10 May 2013, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > > I am considering activating encryption of popularity-contest submissions > > > using public key cryptography t

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:57:58AM +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > Let me explain where I'm coming from... With MinGW-w64, we have a set of > compilers, headers and libraries which allow building software targeting > native Windows, without Cygwin or much in the way of wrappers at all. This is > defin

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 10:31:10PM +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-07 14:38 +0200]: > > Hi Wookey, > > > > On Tue, 7 May 2013 03:04:50 +0100, Wookey wrote: > > > (just a decision to leave arch-independent headers in /usr/include and > > > move arch-dependent headers to /usr/inclu

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 07:46:43PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 7 May 2013 16:46:46 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > >On May 07, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > >> My stated goal here is, indeed, to be able to run at least some useful > >> configurations of a Debian installation without

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:34:09PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote: > On Lunes, 6 de mayo de 2013 13:49:57 Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals > > for jessie. Here are some points that come into my mind right now (and >

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 09:12:12AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 05/07/2013 11:41 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > > >On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 05:36:41PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > >>On May 07, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > >> > >>>No please. We are good about making sure they each mean something

Re: Merging / and /usr (was: jessie release goals)

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 04:56:04PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 05:35:11PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On May 07, ?? ?? wrote: > > > > > What about merging / and /usr ? > > An ambitious plan. > > I strongly support the "everything in /usr" scheme, but let

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

2013-05-09 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: > On 2013-05-09 07:56, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > > >> I just noticed that we have the first amd64 package in the archive that > >> has dependencies on :i386 qualified libraries: >

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 12:18:44AM +0100, Wookey wrote: > The harder question is how/when to do that QA. The time to do QA is now and always. Otherwise it just collects and becomes too much. > I resisted making the > suggestion of doing it by default on all builds as that seemed a step > too far,

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 07:11:35PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Holger Levsen [130502 12:28]: > > > People do this all the time: upload packages built against local packages, > > > experimental or even on Ubuntu to Debian sid. > > > > /me shivers. This hurts. There is no reason not to rebui

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:38:40PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 03 mai 2013 à 09:18 +0800, Chow Loong Jin a écrit : > > While we're at it, can we also have source-only uploads? Uploading > > potentially > > huge binary packages that just go to /dev/null seems like a pointless wast

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 09:33:14PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 04:53:59PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > I think there's a consensus, the problem is who's going > > to do the work for automating dropping of binaries and > > rebuild. > > Not implying that I am the one do

Re: git as a source package format?

2013-05-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 12:11:23PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > The fact is that Debian does not make much effort to ensure that we do not > > distribute unredistributable files in our mirrors and installation media, > > once > > a package

Re: Bug#706458: ITP: inotify-hookable -- blocking command-line interface to inotify

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 04:05:45PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > On Thursday 02 May 2013 11:29:58 Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > How is that better than the existing inotify shell tools? What do they > > lack and why not improve them instead of writing a new one? > >

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, May 02, 2013 at 11:31:54AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > On 2013-05-02 11:06, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > versioned Build-Depends on the new version. Otherwise all buildds will > > simply compile the new foo against the old bar and then you have one > &

Re: Bug#706458: ITP: inotify-hookable -- blocking command-line interface to inotify

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 01:58:58PM +0200, Dominique Dumont wrote: > > Package: wnpp > Owner: Dominique Dumont > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > * Package name: inotify-hookable > Version : 0.7 > Upstream Author : ???var Arnfj???r??? Bjarmason

Re: Bug#706159: ITP: libzmq-libzmq2-perl -- Perl bindings to the libzmq 2.x library

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:09:04PM +0200, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: > On gio, apr 25, 2013 at 06:36:39 +0200, Julian Taylor wrote: > > On 25.04.2013 18:01, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: > > > * Package name: libzmq-libzmq2-perl > > > Version : 1.07 > > > Upstream Author : Daisuke Maki

Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 09:44:58AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > On 23/04/2013 23:15, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Joachim Breitner debian.org> writes: > > > >> The (luxury) problem is that I got used to it and began uploading the > >> new (and NEW) dependency bar of package foo along with the new

Re: Bug#705879: moreinfo

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:09:49AM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: > On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 17:50:37 Holger Levsen wrote: > > ah! thanks for summarizing why this is not a bug, but rather a feature > > (UUIDs > > for partitions) made for this situation not being used! > > For the record about a year ag

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:23:51AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 01:46:20PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 02:28:18PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > % ls -lh debian/rules > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 mrvn users

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:53:05AM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2013-04-18, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Oh, that's a good point. Yes, I hadn't thought about that specific case > >> for testing ABI breakage in experimental. > > > > But then th

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:16:11PM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:56:34AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 02:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Niko Tyni writes: > > > > > > > FWIW, I'

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:15:26PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes"): > > Co-installability of interpreters is generally not planed and would > > have to be made as custom solutions, i.e. place the interpret

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:41:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an interpreter > like python or perl for a foreign architecture, but there are some use case > where such a setup makes sense. For now I see this limited for architectu

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:19:27PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hello, > > When downloading a source package from somewhere else, I often find > myself in the situation that after.. If by downloading you mean "apt-get source foo" then the answere is: apt-get build-dep foo Otherwise there is

Re: epoch in filenames for packages (was: Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R)

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:04:11AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > On 04/18/2013 10:48, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >>> Actually that hit

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 02:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Niko Tyni writes: > > > FWIW, I've done ABI-incompatible uploads of perl to experimental in the > > past without changing the perlapi-* virtual package name or the libperl > > SONAME. The aim was to experiment with different configu

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch does not > > appear in the binary package filename. While wheezy would have 1.2.3-1 > > and

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 01:08:49PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 07:02:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > > > Depends: r-base-core (>= 3.0.0~20130327) , r-base-core (<< 4) > > > > or you could have an API virtual package: > > > > r-base-api-3.0 > > Hi Dirk and

Re: detailed lists with archive contents - more than just Contents

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 04:48:20PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > > For duplicate file detection, there is now the Debian duplication > > detector (still importing the archive): > > > > http://dedup.debian.net/ > > This will soon be linked to from

Re: alternative debian/rules

2013-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 10:47:39AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > ?? ?? writes: > > > Indeed. > > > So, in any case one can use its own tool just like dh: > > > %: > > debian/megatool $@ > > Yes, from a Policy perspective. Although please consider using dh and its > framewor

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 01:13:29PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:42:29 +0600 > Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 12:33:15AM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > > > Thanks for trading the R release cycle with Debian's and for > > > > delaying the release.

Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

2013-03-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 03:37:07PM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 02:03:48PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > > ... > > > I mentioned, I would prefer to keep thos

Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation

2013-03-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 11:11:22PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > What I mean is that a changes file for a sourceful upload has > > 'source' (and maybe some real architecture names) in the Architecture > > field. Therefore 'source' cannot be assigned as the name of a real > > a

Re: multi-tarball packages in version control

2013-03-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > ... > I mentioned, I would prefer to keep those files out of my packaging > archive: they hardly change, anyway. > > So, what do you do with multi-tarball packages? I keep a patched > svn-buildpackage, for now. You don't want the ex

Bug#637232: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

2012-07-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 06:44:58AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > Hi, > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:52:10PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > >> c) Compatibility wrapper. If someone needs this, feel free to email > >>

Bug#637232: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

2012-07-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 12:52:10PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > affects 637232 + release-notes > quit > > Hi, > > Matthias Klose wrote: > > On 08/09/2011 07:31 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > >> I got fed up by people reporting bug on libc6, while this problem results > >> from a decision Debia

Re: Moving changelog and copyright files to control tarball, or merging control and data tarballs ?

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 09:00:29AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > Just to give some context and background, this started with the > discussion of binNMUs and multi-arch [0], related to file conflicts > due to the coinstallability of multiple M-A:same instances, and while > initially a wild

Bug#679853: general: Too much downtime during a big dist-upgrade - avoidable with snapshots

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 08:27:05PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > > While it might work for some, there's a much simpler way to minimize > > daemon downtime: Avoid stopping a daemon in the prerm, and instead > > restart it in the postinst. Downtime then becomes < 1 second per daemon > > (les

Re: Audit of Debian/Ubuntu for unfixed vulnerabilities because of embedded code copies

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:27:06PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 07/02/2012 10:53 AM, Silvio Cesare wrote: > > Hi, > > [ ... ] > > Now some of these cases are going to be false positives. From looking at > > the results, many of the vulns were probably fixed but have not been > > reported in the

Re: Finding missing epochs

2012-07-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 11:34:28PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > I wrote a tool to detect versioned (build-)dependencies with > possible missing (or insufficient) epochs. The results for unstable > and a DD-list are attached. > > The source code is available at: > svn://svn.debian.org/svn/collab-qa/e

Re: cross-build-essential

2012-06-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Simon McVittie writes: > On 28/06/12 10:17, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Say I want to have the build-essential for i386 installed on amd64. >> I could install build-essential:i386, replacing gcc/g++:amd64 with >> gcc/g++:i386. Wouldn't that give me everything need

Anyone using pristine-tar with multiple upstream tarballs?

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I'm wondering if anyone is using pristine-tar with multiple upstream tarballs. It seems git-import-orig still doesn't support that. Do you import the tarballs manually or is there another wrapper around pristine-tar to do the work? MfG Goswin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-dev

Re: cross-build-essential

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wookey writes: > +++ Wookey [2012-01-19 14:32 +]: >> +++ Neil Williams [2012-01-19 13:02 +]: >> > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:10:28 + >> > Wookey wrote: >> > >> > > I've thought for a long time that a package like build-essential for >> > > cross-building would be a really good idea. >>

Re: Future of update-rc.d in wheezy+1

2012-06-28 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Roger Leigh writes: > Hi folks, > > I'd just like to briefly discuss potential plans for update-rc.d > in wheezy+1, and how this might impact on file-rc and sysv-rc. > > sysv-rc has defaulted to using LSB header dependencies and insserv > for a few years now. The last few releases require you to

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: >> > I've read that some SSDs really *dislike* the way Linux does TRIM >> > batching (or doesn't :p), so yes, it may well be that

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:57:29PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> > Release notes are meant to be read once, not every time you upgrade a >> > system. Having a debconf note once might be appropriate. The second >> > time, you'll go "right, I've seen that before". The thi

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 09:54:22PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> >Meanwhile, you've got a non-FHS directory on your system that is of no >> >immediate use. >> >> Your later suggested /store as a user /

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >> > Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 &&am

Re: Fwd: ITP: e2defrag -- ext[234] filesystem defragmenter

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Phillip Susi writes: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Phillip Susi > > * Package name: e2defrag > Version : 0.79 > Upstream Author : Phillip Susi > * URL : http://launchpad.net/e2defrag > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C > Description

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes: > On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Osamu Aoki wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:00:15PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: >> > Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:46:57PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: >> > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, T

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-24 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski writes: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> It has to be held back. But apt-get/aptitude might select a solution >> where they do get removed rather then hold back many other packages. >> I'm hoping it will be held

RFC: Event based initramfs

2012-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, a short while ago we had a lively discussion about the problems in initramfs with devices apearing too late (especially USB devices) or crypto/md/lvm/multipath devices being stacked in a way the initramfs scripts wouldn't handle. A simple solution for this problem is to use udev to watch out

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 06/23/2012 02:18 AM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Problem is that frontends will complain about ia32-libs being not >> upgradable and might suggest removing it instead of keeping it back way >> before that. At the time base-file is upgraded ia

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > On 22.06.2012 15:31, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine,

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes writes: > On 06/22/2012 04:31 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>>> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >&g

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Jun 22, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >> Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update >> Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is no

Re: build-time testing of pure arch:all packages

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Yaroslav Halchenko writes: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > archive-wide rebuilds of arch:all packages as we routinely do rebuilds >> > of arch:any packages. >> > (Cc:-ing Lucas, for his great work on QA rebuilds.) >> Are archive wide

Re: The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Goirand writes: > On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back >> Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update >> Step 3: dist-upgrade (ia32-libs, wine, ... is now installabl

The future (or non-future) of ia32-libs

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, two weeks ago we hit a huge milestone with multiarch and wine:i386 became installable on amd64. Last week we hit another milestone so that ia32-libs became mostly installable (it might still want to remove some amd64 packages in the process depending on what you have installed). As a conseque

Re: Is it possible to run autopkgtest without a virtual machine ?

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Charles Plessy writes: > Dear all, > > I think that the idea behind autopkgtest (DEP 8) is very interesting, and > could > eventually replace build-time regression tests. To train myself, I tried to > implement simple tests for the tabix package. > > However, adt-run needs a virtual machine. I

Re: build-time testing of pure arch:all packages

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Zacchiroli writes: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:29:48AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: >> I was thinking about a bit more automated way... ideally (in the long >> run) even that FTBFS (e.g. due to failed tests or some other arch >> specific quirks) would forbid automatic migration to w

Re: Announce: script to automatically restart services after update of dependencies

2012-06-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 11:16:51AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ben Hutchings writes: >> >> > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> On 2012-06-19 13

Re: Announce: script to automatically restart services after update of dependencies

2012-06-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:29 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On 2012-06-19 13:59, Tomas Pospisek wrote: >> > This implies that an "apt-get install library" needs to trigger that >> > restart. >> > Which means that apt-get needs to depend on restart-servic

Re: Summary: Moving /tmp to tmpfs makes it useless

2012-06-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst writes: > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 04:14:52AM +0300, Serge wrote: >> User cannot break the system filling /tmp on disk. But he can do that >> if he fills /tmp on tmpfs. So /tmp on tmpfs adds one more point of >> failure for servers. > > No, that's not true. The real danger in filli

Re: Malloc and security

2012-06-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:25:51PM +0100, Jamie White wrote: >> Hiya >> >> Just a quick question, which malloc, is there anyway that this >> function (used in C) could allocate memory into already allocated >> memory, such as the stack - or code space! > > Assuming that

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