Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Ben Caradoc-Davies writes: > Trust is not transitive. If trust is not transitive, then what for trust network exists?

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
"Adam D. Barratt" writes: > No. Policy is not a user-focused tool, it's the documentation of how > developers / maintainers are expected to build packages. It documents > how things are and the current conventions, not how they will or might > be at some hypothetical point in the future. Okay, i

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes: > Le lundi, 29 août 2016, 12.07:23 h CEST Dmitrii Kashin a écrit : >> But I know a lot of them. And not only in Debian community. And they >> don't agree that migrating will give them greater control over their >> systems. >

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Don Armstrong writes: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> If we assume that this precedent allow a maintainer to violate policy, >> so we don't need the Policy anymore. > > Violating policy is still a bug; it may be a bug in policy, or a bug in > the pack

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
But I know a lot of them. And not only in Debian community. And they don't agree that migrating will give them greater control over their systems. If you want I'll ask them to write here too. Attila Kinali writes: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:47:55 -0400 > Robert Edmonds wrote: > >> I would guess

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Philipp Kern writes: > On 2016-08-26 19:53, Wookey wrote: >> After Stretch there may not be that many sysvinit users, but I think >> that 2 releases is the minimum sensible period to maintain support for >> such a siginificant change. > > But it seems that this discussion does not consider if sys

Re: Is missing SysV-init support a bug?

2016-08-26 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Marco d'Itri writes: > On Aug 26, Carsten Leonhardt wrote: > >> Considering the past conflicts on the topic of systemd, it should be >> expected that there is a considerable user base that is staying with >> sysvinit or another alternative. > Barely noticeable: > > https://qa.debian.org/popcon-g

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Alec Leamas writes: > Dear list, > > In the process of a complicated update, there is a question about how > to handle the systemV init scripts when doing the systemd transition. > > The package (lirc) has upstream systemd scripts which of course are > packaged. The existing Debian version has sy

Re: Debian package non-strict equal dependencies

2016-01-12 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Lars Wirzenius writes: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 05:58:48PM +0300, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> Hm. It seems to be a solution. But I don't really understand how version >> comparison works with symbols `.', `~' and `+'. Where can I read >> comparison rules?

Re: Debian package non-strict equal dependencies

2016-01-12 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Josselin Mouette writes: > Dmitrii Kashin wrote: >> The main thing is we can describe dependency as `pkg (= "2.0")' and yum will >> install package `pkg' of version "2.0" with the maximum revision >> found. And also we can write dependency

Debian package non-strict equal dependencies

2016-01-12 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
There's an interesting type of dependencies in RPM: "non-strict equals". The main thing is we can describe dependency as `pkg (= "2.0")' and yum will install package `pkg' of version "2.0" with the maximum revision found. And also we can write dependency specifically with revision, f.e. `pkg (= "

Re: What is the correct way to set owner to package's files?

2015-12-30 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Konstantin Khomoutov writes: > On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 13:34:29 +0300 > Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > >> I didn't know where to put this question. It's not only >> debian-specific, but it concerns packaging in common. >> >> Our company is distributing some soft

What is the correct way to set owner to package's files?

2015-12-30 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Hello. I didn't know where to put this question. It's not only debian-specific, but it concerns packaging in common. Our company is distributing some software splitted into packages (deb and rpm). Almost all files are installed into /opt/ and specifically all of them must be owned by some user .

Re: Network Security Toolkit

2012-02-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Philip Hands writes: > Neil, > > I think Dmitrii was suggesting that there are some utilities that are > used to do the geolocation stuff that are not currently packaged for > Debian, which was surprising to him, given their apparent utility, so > he's wondering if there's some other issue that h

Network Security Toolkit

2012-02-29 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Hello everyone. Today I've read my RSS feeds and got know about new release of NST LiveCD. There's things I've never seen. I've been reading more about this project and I've liked abilities providing by this project. The thing I want very much is to imagine ping/traceroute/geolocate information