Sorry about feeding the bickering about systemd. I posted tired and cranky.
I stand by what I said, but I'm not going to try to convince you of it,
or be part of the bickering, from here on (after this message) I'll make
my decision to stay or go in silence and not participate in yet another
exam
On 11/09/14 12:10 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
>
> I will add that for a distribution that claims to be about it's users,
> the systemd attitude of "We're *going* to use systemd so 'suck it up
> Buttercup' really stinks at a social level.
Especially since &#
For the heck of it, I will add that if in my job I pushed out crap like
Network Manager and Pulseaudio at the time of introduction as 'the
saviour of the Linux desktop' as a production release I would have fired
long ago.
Regards,
Daniel
On 11/09/14 12:10 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
&
I will add that for a distribution that claims to be about it's users,
the systemd attitude of "We're *going* to use systemd so 'suck it up
Buttercup' really stinks at a social level.
Not to mention, as many have pointed out, transition to systemd is *not*
going to be painless and without problem
On 10/09/14 02:52 PM, Noel Torres wrote:
>
> Yes. Why to install OpenVPN which might not work? aptitude will tell you that
> they are not coinstallable and the sysadmin will then have the option of
> switching init system to a non default one, knowing what that means, and
> having a working Ope
> On Tue, 5 May 2009 17:36:02 +0200
> m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>
> > I have been told by upstream maintainers of one of my packages and
> > by prominent developers of other distributions that supporting a
> > standalone /usr is too much work and no other distribution worth
> > mentionin
Is there any information on how the typical package is supposed to use
this new format, or (I'm a little confused on this) is it even in place
yet? If it's not in place how do we prepare for it?
Regards,
Daniel
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And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way early,
now I ha
I kind of got lost in this discussion. Is there a summary and debian
policy and debian reference patch so that those of us who are just
looking to do what we're supposed to do know what we are supposed to do
and how to do it?
Thanks,
Daniel
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And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it ou
Hi,
I'm finding that I can't keep up with devel but I would like to be able
to see a summary of consensuses (consensii?) that result from the
discussions, as well a final summaries of best practices (and changes
to them. Also a neat changelog of policy changes I should be aware of.
Basically I w
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:00:00 -0700
Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> > No. It is not up to the Debian maintainer to decide that some
> > contributor has written enough of the code to also be mentioned in
> > the (C) lines in a particular file. But as soon as upstream lists
> > them either in a file head
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:40:24 +0100 (CET)
Andreas Tille wrote:
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> Hello,
>
> as you might have noticed the effort formerly known as Custom
> Debian Distributions was renamed to Debian Pure Blends (see
> [1] for the reasons). This process is now
Is that a violation of a must directive and therefore a bug that will
need fixing ASAP? AIUI packages that have a GUI are required to have
debian menu, but I'm not sure if the window manager / desktop has the
same requirement.
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And that's my crabbing done for the day. Got it out of the way ea
For those mirroring debian on small space and who want to mirror both
CD images and the archive, the page (and related scripts) on the wiki,
that I have just posted at http://wiki.debian.org/CDToPool may be of
interest.
Basically, starting with either a mirror or cd set you can create pool
directo
Hi,
I'm looking at getting a video card, and I want to know what video card
that has 3D acceleration to get. Normally I'd ask on -users but as the
subject says I want to know what video cards will still have
acceleration when the non-free firmware is removed from the kernel,
which is supposed to
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:54:54 +0100
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> I tried to start Xephyr:
>
> debian-live$ Xephyr :1 -screen 1024x768 -ac
> Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,
> removing from list!
> Could not init font path
> element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscal
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:07:48 +0200
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Another possibility might be a group of people having popcon and
> something like cron-apt installed at the same time; if both cronjobs
> trigger at approximately the same time, that would greatly increase
> th
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:07:48 +0200
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Indeed. This would also rule out a temporary bug in popcon (in that
> case, it would have been a peak which would subside over time).
> Instead, my guess is that there are corner-case situations in which
> popcon tr
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:19:07 +0800
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Installing fontconfig (or just fontconfig-config) in a sid cowbuilder
> chroot results in neither symlink being installed. This correlates
> with my memory of having to tweak the fontconfig directory after
> installing len
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:46:25 +0200
"Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/8/22 Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700
> > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> > Is there any
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:46:25 +0200
"Miriam Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/8/22 Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700
> > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> > Is there any
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:39:29 -0700
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there any reason this isn't the default behaviour?
>
> It is the default.
>
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.templates:
>
> Template: fontconfig/enable_bitmaps
> Type: boolean
> Default: false
> Descri
Hi all,
I recently had trouble with a website that uses Times and Helvetica
which I was able to determine was due to unscaled fonts not printing
well. It took some digging but I eventually, after exploring links and
browsing /etc/fonts based on a link about something else for mozilla
that I was l
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:43:59 +0700
Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twas brillig at 18:52:35 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did gyre and gimble:
>
> >> fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the
> >> matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:43:59 +0700
Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twas brillig at 18:52:35 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> did gyre and gimble:
>
> >> fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the
> >> matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:41:30 -0400
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> > fd.o menus are designed to allow distro-specific policy. It's the
> > matter of Debian KDE/Gnome packaging/menu policy to get the proper
> > subset of the packages in menu (e.g. moving Gnome/gtk app
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 00:13:30 +0700
Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twas brillig at 13:08:40 06.07.2008 UTC-04 when [EMAIL PROTECTED] did
> gyre and gimble:
>
> JH> So, after sufficient time, the gnome menu will contain a random
> JH> assortment of the menu items that also appear in
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Paul Wise wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 4:15 PM, William Pitcock
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Honestly, policy really needs to be updated to use the XDG
> >> standards menu spec, and every WM at this po
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:54:30 +0200
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Another solution would be to make debian-menu build .desktop
> >> entries for the menu in the main menu namespace and not the
> >> 'Debian' namespace; this seems like the easiest solution.
>
> > +1
>
> I don'
For discussion:
Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and
cover most users of desktops in debian.
They all use xdg .desktop-based menus as their main menu.
xdg .desktop-based menus are not covered by policy.
This means some maintainers refuse to use them (see bug #4
Hi all,
I have a question. I have at various times been interested on getting
Debian working on an Old World PowerPC Macintosh and have come across a
situation that confuses me. I was able to get the mac working with the
use of floppies that include a tool call miBoot, that are distributed
on pe
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 09:24:21PM +1000, Steffen Joeris wrote:
> Hi
>
> > * Package name: adun.app
> Maybe I miss some essential parts, but I always wonder why some people add
> a .app to the software name? Can you please give me a short explanation or
> point me to a previous thread?
>
I
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 01:17:42PM +0200, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
> At the beginning of my comments, there has been a statement from Rudy:
> "We have no easy-way-to-get-it to tell people why they would want to
> use Debian. Ubuntu, on the other hand, has achieved to do so, and what
> they tell
I know previously I said I thought that firmware didn't matter for
freeness, but I've been convinced by the arguments here that I was
wrong. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that as a user (who
hopes to get time to contribute, maybe even eventually as a DD), that
I chose Debian because of th
On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 05:35:52PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2006-07-03 09:04:39, schrieb Lars Wirzenius:
> > su, 2006-07-02 kello 18:17 -0400, Jason Spiro kirjoitti:
> > > * Package name: openwatcom
> > > Description : C/C++ compiler and IDE that produce efficient,
> > > porta
A little while back I tried to setup a system that used a read-only
root filesystem during regular operation and ran into some problems
during boot. The first is that /etc needs to be read-write but init
scripts break badly if /etc is not on the root filesystem (probably could
be fixed in initramf
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 07:31:56AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.25.0324 +0100]:
> > I have written a script that I think would be useful in Debian. It
> > seems excessive to make a package for for it, but a quick g
fburn 1.1 is used to write raw data (usually a floppy image) to a
# floppy."
# copyright (C) 2006 Daniel Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the F
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On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 18:17:20 -0400
"Jason Spiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: openwatcom
> Version : I plan to do version 1.4 (or 1.6, if it comes out
> soon) Upstream Author : an in
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The copyright link is missing (http://wiki.debian.net/copyright.html)
but the copyright was broken anyway (see
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWikiIsNotGFDL). What is the copyright
on the wiki, and where is the correct link to the copyright notice,
that
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Ok, I'm confused. In the netatalk README.Debian it says that the
Debian project has decided that OpenSSL is GPL-incompatible and
therefore he can't distribute the ssl-based portions of netatalk (like
encrypted authentication with classic macs). I was
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Er, is it just me or isn't the point of gnupg that there *are* people
you *can't trust*. We wouldn't be needing digital signatures if
everybody honoured the 'gentleman's agreement' that we should only
sign as ourselves (or at most as a pseudonym that
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 13:44:57 -0300
"André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I'm creating a meta package for install a lite desktop for old
> machines with poor hardware.
That's an admiral goal, however I would be prepare
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