Re: tag2upload & orig.tar

2024-12-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 02 Dec 2024 at 10:07pm -08, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > As you know I have been testing dgit and reviewing tag2upload, and to > my understanding tag2upload will generate the *.orig.tar.gz tarballs > using dgit (Using 'git deborig', not dgit.) > which does only uses the debian/latest

Re: tag2upload & orig.tar

2024-12-02 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! ... > - tag2upload will improve the situation with .orig.tar because the > tag2upload server will always ensure that the uploaded source package > is prepared using an .orig.tar that dak will be happy with. > It won't matter what you're using locally for, e.g., the purpose of > feeding

Re: tag2upload & orig.tar

2024-12-02 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Sean On 2024/12/03 04:52, Sean Whitton wrote: I just caught up on the .orig.tar thread and wanted to note to everyone: - tag2upload final development, in accordance with the plan agreed with ftpmaster, is proceeding nicely. We are writing integration tests for everything, and almost ha

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-12-02 Thread Antonio Russo
On 12/2/24 18:15, Soren Stoutner wrote: Unfortunately, I think that many contributor’s experiences with Debian are closer to what I experienced with Guix than what I experienced with Debian. If we can change that, I think we would see an influx of contributions to the project. As a contributor

tag2upload & orig.tar

2024-12-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, I just caught up on the .orig.tar thread and wanted to note to everyone: - tag2upload final development, in accordance with the plan agreed with ftpmaster, is proceeding nicely. We are writing integration tests for everything, and almost have an end-to-end test of the whole thing, wi

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-12-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 28 Nov 2024 at 10:29am -10, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > *) As much as possible, we want to be able to use the unmodified >source files are officially released by upstream. Which might be a >tarball and/or a signed git tag. I ignore this completely, and I'm not the only one. Ev

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-12-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Tue 26 Nov 2024 at 11:20pm +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > The archive, when the tarball is already there. > > These suggestions never discuss what to do when the tarball was never > uploaded yet, even I didn't discuss that for simplicity. Then just make one: 'git deborig'. I apprec

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-12-02 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Tue 26 Nov 2024 at 11:28pm +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:53:01PM +0100, Mechtilde Stehmann wrote: >> > One possible rebuttal to this is "gbp needs to do the right thing then". >> > Currently gbp by default generates a broken tarball, which is also a >> > s

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-12-02 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Monday, December 2, 2024 9:32:27 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote: > Attracting newcomers > > > In my own talk[mt3], I regret not leaving enough time for questions--my > apologies for this. However, I want to revisit the sole question raised, > which essentially asked: Is the doc

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-12-02 Thread nick black
Jeremy Stanley left as an exercise for the reader: > Would I bother to go through NM now if the process were more > simplified/streamlined? Maybe, but probably not. As you noted, > priorities matter and it's entirely possible to be involved in > Debian without that (depending on what exactly you wa

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Marc Haber [241202 09:43]: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 06:55:09PM -0500, nick black wrote: > > Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: > > > > * any upstream tool could say "bad idea" and refuse patches, > > > >requiring their long term management, > > > > > > Depending of how importa

Bug#1088917: ITP: gnome-ponytail-daemon -- Helper daemon for dogtail on Wayland

2024-12-02 Thread Hefee
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hefee X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-gnome-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org, he...@debian.org, sthiba...@debian.org * Package name: gnome-ponytail-daemon Version : 0.0.11 Upstream Contact: Olivier Fourdan * URL

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-12-02 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2024-12-02 19:09:33 +0200 (+0200), Martin-Éric Racine wrote: > (non-subscriber; please keep me in CC whenever reply to this) > > ma 2.12.2024 klo 18.33 Andreas Tille (ti...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > > Attracting newcomers [...] > From personal experience, jumping through hoops to become a DD, or

Re: Epoch for src:fuse-ext2 to replace src:fuse-umfuse-ext2's fuseext2 binary

2024-12-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sat, Nov 30, 2024 at 03:28:40AM +0100, наб wrote: > I was expecting src:fuse-umfuse-ext2 to clear the RM queue by the time > this was uploaded, so I didn't think to enumerate them earlier. > > Tested all, all fixed, closed all. Many thanks for testing them and then closing them all. That was

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-12-02 Thread Martin-Éric Racine
(non-subscriber; please keep me in CC whenever reply to this) ma 2.12.2024 klo 18.33 Andreas Tille (ti...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > Attracting newcomers > > > In my own talk[mt3], I regret not leaving enough time for questions--my > apologies for this. However, I want to revisi

Re: whether we should combine /usr/games with /usr/bin or not

2024-12-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 at 21:35:14 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > maybe we could also phase out /usr/games? Each time > I think that making a container image with cowsay for teaching purposes > is a good idea, I fail miserably because I forget that /usr/games is not > in the container path by default

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread rhys
> > On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:46:52AM -0600, rhys wrote: >> 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in >> each >> other's directories, which will greatly increase their security > > (typical level of argumentation) > > [...] > >> It's quite simpl

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:46:52AM -0600, rhys wrote: > 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in > each > other's directories, which will greatly increase their security > >>> > >>> (typical level of argumentation) [...] > It's quite simple, and has n

Bug#1088877: ITP: paperutil -- paperutil for Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Euiseo Cha
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Euiseo Cha X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: paperutil Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Contact: Mina Her * URL : https://github.com/mmm-minecraft/paperutil * License : Unlicense Programming Lang: she

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread rhys
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 12:30:52PM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote: 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in each other's directories, which will greatly increase their security >>> >>> (typical level of argumentation) >>> >> The ability to isolate users from co

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 11:50:17AM +, Greg Stark wrote: > > > This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin > > > share a partition or not has no relationship to whether a user can > > > invoke a command, or whether that path is searched for unqualified > > > command name

Re: Simpler git workflow for packaging with upstreamless repositories

2024-12-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Nov 27, 2024 at 4:30 AM GMT, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > How common debian/gbp.conf points at something else: perhaps gbp's > defaults are not good, if that many packages need to override them. First of all may I ask you to not use terms like 'not good' as it may come off negative towards th

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi all, while we are at it maybe we could also phase out /usr/games? Each time I think that making a container image with cowsay for teaching purposes is a good idea, I fail miserably because I forget that /usr/games is not in the container path by default… Have a nice day, Charles -- Charles

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 12:30:52PM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote: > >> 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in each > >> other's directories, which will greatly increase their security > > > > (typical level of argumentation) > > > The ability to isolate users from com

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Greg Stark
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024, 11:20 Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/2/24 18:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin > > share a partition or not has no relationship to whether a user can > > invoke a command, or whether that path is searc

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Hakan Bayındır
> On 2 Dec 2024, at 09:10, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 09:38:28AM +0800, kindusmith wrote: >> 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in each >> other's directories, which will greatly increase their security > > (typical level of argument

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Chris Hofstaedtler
* Simon Richter [241202 12:20]: > Hi, > > On 12/2/24 18:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin > > share a partition or not has no relationship to whether a user can > > invoke a command, or whether that path is searched for unquali

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 12/2/24 18:39, Jonathan Dowland wrote: This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin share a partition or not has no relationship to whether a user can invoke a command, or whether that path is searched for unqualified command names (determined by $PATH). FWIW,

Bug#1088869: ITP: multipart -- Python multipart/form-data parser

2024-12-02 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: multipart Version : 1.2.1 Upstream Contact: Marcel Hellkamp * URL : https://github.com/defnull/multipart * License : Expat Programming Lang: Pyth

Re: [MBF]: Proposing `Rules-Requires-Root: no` being the new default

2024-12-02 Thread Niels Thykier
Michael Biebl: Hi Niels, hi Guillem, thanks for the initiative and +1 from my side. Thanks. Am 29.11.24 um 11:08 schrieb Niels Thykier: # The bug template used What's your proposed timeframe for making the switch? Trixie, Forky, no targetted release but when bug count is reasonably low?

Re: [MBF]: Proposing `Rules-Requires-Root: no` being the new default

2024-12-02 Thread Niels Thykier
Michael Biebl: Hi Niels, hi Guillem, thanks for the initiative and +1 from my side. Thanks. Am 29.11.24 um 11:08 schrieb Niels Thykier: # The bug template used What's your proposed timeframe for making the switch? Trixie, Forky, no targetted release but when bug count is reasonably low?

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Michal Politowski
Dnia Sun, 1 Dec 2024 23:27:09 +0100, Gioele Barabucci napisał(a): [...] > But a cursory search shows that none of the current upstreams support (or > mention) PRECIS. (It also shows that src:precis is a Java library squatting > a bit on that package name... :)) But at least it is an implementatio

Re: The advantages of splitting /bin and /usr/bin, and /sbin and /usr/sbin outweigh the disadvantages

2024-12-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Dec 2, 2024 at 1:38 AM GMT, kindusmith wrote: 1. First, root and ordinary users will not be able to use commands in each other's directories, which will greatly increase their security This is not correct. Whether any of /usr/bin,/usr/sbin,/bin or /sbin share a partition or not has no re

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 06:55:09PM -0500, nick black wrote: > Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader: > > > * any upstream tool could say "bad idea" and refuse patches, > > >requiring their long term management, > > > > Depending of how important this tool is, we could get away without

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 01:35:05AM -0500, nick black wrote: > WTF-8 extends UTF-8 to handle > invalid UTF-16 input. WTF-8 is a seriously defined encoding? I have only experienced that name as a mocking name for an UTF-8 string that erroneously went though UTF-8 encoding a second time (double-UTF-8

Re: Musings about Usernames in adduser and Debian

2024-12-02 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 02/12/24 08:56, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 09:16:03PM -0600, G. Branden Robinson wrote: These things are ugly, which is why I suppose they haven't caught on despite being around for decades, but I would guess that this problem space is such that there are no non-ugly solutions