Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

Hi Steve On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 02:01:15AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Russ has described copying *binaries* out of packages and running them > elsewhere. I've done that too, from time to time. This is one of the > things made possible by the ABI contract being followed. And nothing in that r

Re: What *is* the amd64 ABI

On Tue, 16 May 2023, 15:42 Russ Allbery, wrote: > Sam Hartman writes: > > > We've all been talking about the x86_64 ABI, and I'm realizing I'm never > > read it. > > Are we talking about > > https://refspecs.linuxbase.org > /elf/x86_64-ab

Re: What *is* the amd64 ABI

Sam Hartman writes: > We've all been talking about the x86_64 ABI, and I'm realizing I'm never > read it. > Are we talking about > https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/elf/x86_64-abi-0.99.pdf That's the one that I was looking at, at least. Specifically (for the purposes of the current discussion) pag

What *is* the amd64 ABI

We've all been talking about the x86_64 ABI, and I'm realizing I'm never read it. Are we talking about https://refspecs.linuxbase.org/elf/x86_64-abi-0.99.pdf --Sam

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

I'm dropping the TC bug from this thread, since I don't think it has anything to do with that discussion at this point. I probably should also change the Subject line, but I'm keeping it to make it easier for the people who want to tune out this thread, since I very much doubt they want to tune ba

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 18:54, Simon McVittie wrote: > > On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 23:37:34 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote: > > People build things on Debian that are not Debian packages. People > > compile binaries on Debian, and expect them to work on any system that > > has sufficiently new libraries.

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 16:18, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Luca Boccassi writes: > > On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 02:26, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> (Also, no slight on the GUIX folks, but GUIX is not exactly an, uh, > >> major player in Linux distributions, and I'm not sure how much they > >> care about co

Standards compliance (Was: Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited))

On Mon, 15 May 2023 02:42:27 +0200, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 01:14, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > An obvious specific example of such a system would be one that didn't > > merge /usr and thus only had /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 and not any other > > path, but that's just one ob

Re: RFP: virtme-ng -- Tool to build and run a kernel inside a virtualized snapshot of your live system

On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 10:45:15PM +0200, Ricardo Ribalda Delgado wrote: > Hi all > > I think I have the first version of virtme-ng. > > @Héctor Orón Martínez can you help reviewing and pushing > https://salsa.debian.org/ribalda/virtme-ng ? > > Maybe you could also create salsa.debian.org/debian

Re: RFP: virtme-ng -- Tool to build and run a kernel inside a virtualized snapshot of your live system

Hi all I think I have the first version of virtme-ng. @Héctor Orón Martínez can you help reviewing and pushing https://salsa.debian.org/ribalda/virtme-ng ? Maybe you could also create salsa.debian.org/debian/virtme-ng Thanks and regards! On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 5:04 PM Emmanuel Arias wrote:

Bug#1036125: ITP: virtme-ng -- Build and run specific kernels inside a virtualized snapshot of your live system

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ricardo Ribalda Delgado X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, rica...@ribalda.com * Package name: virtme-ng Version : 1.6 Upstream Contact: Andrea Righi * URL : https://github.com/arighi/virtme-ng * License : GPL-

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 06:48:04 +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Obviously, with Luca's proposal, binaries from packages built with a different > dynamic linker path in them would not work on distributions without > merged-/usr > symlinks. But if the property of stuff from Debian b

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

On Sun, 14 May 2023 at 23:37:34 +0200, Josh Triplett wrote: > People build things on Debian that are not Debian packages. People > compile binaries on Debian, and expect them to work on any system that > has sufficiently new libraries. *raises hand* Hello, I represent an example of those people.

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

Luca Boccassi writes: > On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 02:26, Russ Allbery wrote: >> (Also, no slight on the GUIX folks, but GUIX is not exactly an, uh, >> major player in Linux distributions, and I'm not sure how much they >> care about compatibility with anyone else.) > This is a counter-example to c

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

On Mon, 15 May 2023 at 14:36, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > Hey Johannes, > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 06:48:04AM +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues > wrote: > >So did we not years ago decide, that the result of the "cross- and > >inter-project discussion" is, that everybody is going merged-/usr

Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited)

Hey Johannes, On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 06:48:04AM +0200, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: >Quoting Steve McIntyre (2023-05-15 02:54:02) >> >> Pointing at gentoo or nixos as examples of projects that have decided >> to break compatibility doesn't cut it, I'm afraid. They're well known >> fo

Bug#1036077: Further information

Please note that I have installed the skypeforlinux program and it segfaults when this problem occurs.