Work-needing packages report for Jul 15, 2022

2022-07-14 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1261 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 180 (new: 0) Total number of packages reques

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Wookey
On 2022-07-14 13:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > If the only reason for the ITP is to make lintian quiet then I think > that's a total waste of time - it's following a guideline blindly > without understanding the reason for it. > > How do others feel? I mostly file ITPs because Lintian moans a

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 08:14:13AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Edward Betts writes: > > > I've been writing some code to work out the gender balance of speakers > > at a conference. It parses the pentabarf XML of the schedule and feeds > > the speaker names to this module. > > > Here's the resu

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Bernat writes: > On 2022-07-14 17:14, Russ Allbery wrote: >> (Also, due to the limitations and history of naming conventions, the >> software is inherently trying to map into a gender binary, which if one >> is attempting to capture self-identification is likely to be unhelpful >> for man

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:05:35PM +0200, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > > > >* Package name: gender-guesser > Debian has a Diversity Statement [1] which says that Debian welcomes > people regardless of how they identify themselves. Trans people and > non-binary people face a lot of discrimination, har

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 2022/07/14 14:52, Steve McIntyre wrote: IMHO there are 2 points to an ITP: * to save effort in case two people might be working on the same package * to invite discussion on debian-devel / elsewhere If people post an ITP and upload iummediately, then I don't think that helps on eithe

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Vincent Bernat
On 2022-07-14 17:14, Russ Allbery wrote: (Also, due to the limitations and history of naming conventions, the software is inherently trying to map into a gender binary, which if one is attempting to capture self-identification is likely to be unhelpful for many populations, such as ones with lots

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Edward Betts writes: > I've been writing some code to work out the gender balance of speakers > at a conference. It parses the pentabarf XML of the schedule and feeds > the speaker names to this module. > Here's the results for Debconf 22. > 72 speakers > male 48 66.7% > unknown

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 14 Jul 2022 at 01:52PM +01, Steve McIntyre wrote: > IMHO there are 2 points to an ITP: > > * to save effort in case two people might be working on the same >package > * to invite discussion on debian-devel / elsewhere > > If people post an ITP and upload iummediately, then I d

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 14 Jul 2022 at 02:23PM +02, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Quoting Steve McIntyre (2022-07-14 13:54:52) >> And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > > I did that quite a few times in the past as well. Is there a rule of how long > I > have to w

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre writes: > IMHO there are 2 points to an ITP: > * to save effort in case two people might be working on the same >package > * to invite discussion on debian-devel / elsewhere > If people post an ITP and upload iummediately, then I don't think that > helps on either count. >

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Nilesh Patra
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 02:31:22PM +0200, julien.pu...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Le jeudi 14 juillet 2022 à 14:16 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:54:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre > > wrote: > > > And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > > > > Is it

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 2:41 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:14:43AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > edw...@4angle.com wrote: > > > > >Package: wnpp > > >Severity: wishlist > > >Owner: Edward Betts > > >X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 3:12 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 05:48:56PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 08:45:24AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > > Filing the ITP then immediately uploading seems really sensible, > > More sensible t

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 05:48:56PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 08:45:24AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > Filing the ITP then immediately uploading seems really sensible, > More sensible than not filing it? > This defeats both purposes of an ITP: getting it

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 14, Marc Haber wrote: > >And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > Is it proper procedure to upload without an ITP? Is there any point in an ITP if you are already ready to upload the package? No. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Marc Haber wrote: >On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:54:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre >wrote: >>And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > >Is it proper procedure to upload without an ITP? IMHO there are 2 points to an ITP: * to save effort in case two people might be working on the s

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 08:45:24AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > > > > > > Is it proper procedure to upload without an ITP? > > > > > > > No ; I have to admit a large percentage of the new packages I upload > > get t

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 02:31:22PM +0200, julien.pu...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > Le jeudi 14 juillet 2022 à 14:16 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > > On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:54:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre > > wrote: > > > And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > > > > Is it

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:14:43AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > edw...@4angle.com wrote: > > >Package: wnpp > >Severity: wishlist > >Owner: Edward Betts > >X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org > > > >* Package name: gender-guesser > > Version

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread julien . puydt
Hi, Le jeudi 14 juillet 2022 à 14:16 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:54:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre > wrote: > > And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? > > Is it proper procedure to upload without an ITP? > No ; I have to admit a large percentage o

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
Quoting Steve McIntyre (2022-07-14 13:54:52) > And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? I did that quite a few times in the past as well. Is there a rule of how long I have to wait with my upload to NEW after filing the ITP? signature.asc Description: signature

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 12:54:52 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >And I see you uploaded ~immediately - why even bother with an ITP? Is it proper procedure to upload without an ITP? -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
Steve McIntyre wrote: >edw...@4angle.com wrote: > >>Package: wnpp >>Severity: wishlist >>Owner: Edward Betts >>X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org >> >>* Package name: gender-guesser >> Version : 0.4.0 >> Upstream Author : Israel Saeta Pérez >

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-14 Thread Steve McIntyre
edw...@4angle.com wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >Owner: Edward Betts >X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org > >* Package name: gender-guesser > Version : 0.4.0 > Upstream Author : Israel Saeta Pérez >* URL : https://gith