Bug#993557: ITP: gnome-shell-extension-pop-shell -- keyboard-driven layer for GNOME with tiling window management

2021-09-02 Thread Dan Bungert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dan Bungert X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, danielbung...@gmail.com * Package name: gnome-shell-extension-pop-shell Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : System76 * URL : https://github.com/pop-os/shell * License

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 10:39 PM Phil Morrell wrote: > Over this last year there seems to have been a noticeable divergence of > maintainer opinion, on what has become known as vendoring Embedded copies of code/etc have downsides ... https://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCopies > It is my reading of t

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Phil Morrell (2021-09-03 03:30:04) > On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:46:20AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > First of all, thanks for compiling the list of reasonings. > > Thanks for taking the time to read through it, I was hoping it would > be a useful observation. > > > I get the impres

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 9:06 PM Ansgar wrote: > Accessing www.debian.org will also not work on such systems (and unlike > deb.d.o that does not even offer non-https). It's not Debian's problem. The Tor onion services offer alternatives to the https PKI: https://onion.debian.org/ > Is replacing d

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Phil Morrell
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 02:46:20AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > First of all, thanks for compiling the list of reasonings. Thanks for taking the time to read through it, I was hoping it would be a useful observation. > I get the impression that you are framing current state of embedding as >

Re: Ideas for a dh-privacy-helper

2021-09-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 15:53 +, Bastien Roucariès wrote: > A few year ago I have created the privacy-breach lintian checks in > order to detect trackers in our doc > > I think we are losing the battle here. These lintian checks are a good start, but they are just heuristics that cannot detect

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Phil Morrell
On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 01:03:35AM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: > - should a package debian/control list bundled dependencies to make > sure to avoid duplications ? Maybe? I noted in my final paragraph that Fedora has a mechanism for this that we don't, but perhaps Provides is sufficient. > - when a

Re: Ideas for a dh-privacy-helper

2021-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bastien Roucariès (2021-09-02 23:45:30) > Perl is an option I implemented the privacy breach test in perl. The > problem is I prefer to drop a debian/package.privacy.xslt file in the > package instead of asking maintainer to code the removal of privacy > problems... > > Generic one coul

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Phil, First of all, thanks for compiling the list of reasonings. I get the impression that you are framing current state of embedding as a generally good thing to do, and if I understand that correctly then I disagree with it. I suspect that it helps if separating reasons for _encouraging_

Work-needing packages report for Sep 3, 2021

2021-09-02 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1226 (new: 4) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 205 (new: 2) Total number of packages reques

Bug#993551: ITP: proton-caller -- Run any Windows program through Proton

2021-09-02 Thread Ben Westover
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Westover X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: proton-caller Version : 2.3.2 Upstream Author : Ben Westover * URL : https://github.com/caverym/proton-caller/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lan

Re: Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le ven. 3 sept. 2021 à 00:39, Phil Morrell a écrit : > Over this last year there seems to have been a noticeable divergence of > maintainer opinion, on what has become known as vendoring, from a strict > reading of [policy 4.13]. I think it's notable that the heading is > [Embedded] copies and wa

Finding rough consensus on level of vendoring for large upstreams

2021-09-02 Thread Phil Morrell
Over this last year there seems to have been a noticeable divergence of maintainer opinion, on what has become known as vendoring, from a strict reading of [policy 4.13]. I think it's notable that the heading is [Embedded] copies and was [Convenience] copies since its inception, thankfully I found

Re: Ideas for a dh-privacy-helper

2021-09-02 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Le jeudi 2 septembre 2021, 16:11:48 UTC Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > Quoting Bastien Roucariès (2021-09-02 17:53:18) > > > A few year ago I have created the privacy-breach lintian checks in > > order to detect trackers in our doc > > > > I think we are losing the battle here. > > > > I believe t

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Ansgar
On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 21:26 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > As it is now, I can install a Debian system where no X.509 > certificate authorities are trusted. That doesn't change with the proposal? >   - If I deselect all CAs in the configuration dialog of the > ca-certificates package, what mechan

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 02.09.21 03:22, Hideki Yamane wrote: Providing "default secure setting" is good message to users. The TLS layer is not part of the security model, so we'd be teaching users to look for the wrong thing, kind of like the "encrypted with SSL" badges on web pages in the 90ies. We hav

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2021-09-02 12:27:34 -0400 (-0400), Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [...] > In this context, it might make sense to describe using HTTPS as > the transport for APT operations is providing "default > confidentiality". Which, as similarly discussed, it really doesn't do either (because of deterministic

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 04:08:37PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2021-09-02 10:22:15 +0900 (+0900), Hideki Yamane wrote: > [...] > > Providing "default secure setting" is good message to users. > [...] > > As previously covered, I'd suggest steering clear of referring to > this as adding "def

Re: Ideas for a dh-privacy-helper

2021-09-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bastien Roucariès (2021-09-02 17:53:18) > A few year ago I have created the privacy-breach lintian checks in > order to detect trackers in our doc > > I think we are losing the battle here. > > I believe that we need better tools than sed in order to fix this kind > of problem. > > I h

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-02 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2021-09-02 10:22:15 +0900 (+0900), Hideki Yamane wrote: [...] > Providing "default secure setting" is good message to users. [...] As previously covered, I'd suggest steering clear of referring to this as adding "default security." That implies APT wasn't already effectively secure over plain

Ideas for a dh-privacy-helper

2021-09-02 Thread Bastien Roucariès
Hi, A few year ago I have created the privacy-breach lintian checks in order to detect trackers in our doc I think we are losing the battle here. I believe that we need better tools than sed in order to fix this kind of problem. I have some idea like: - read the html tree - convert the html t