Bug#993066: ITP: python-certbot-dns-standalone -- Standalone (integrated DNS server) DNS plugin for Certbot

2021-08-26 Thread Linus Vanas
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Linus Vanas X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, li...@vanas.fi * Package name: python-certbot-dns-standalone Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : Lauri Keel * URL : https://github.com/siilike/certbot-dns-standalone * Licen

next steps after usrunmess

2021-08-26 Thread Phil Morrell
On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 02:56:21AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sun, 2021-08-22 at 09:18:25 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Afaict we have still no idea on how to move on. > > > > 1 I think you agree that there is a significant number of usrmerged Debian > > installations out there. > > M

Work-needing packages report for Aug 27, 2021

2021-08-26 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1225 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 206 (new: 0) Total number of packages reques

Re: BTS not archiving Bcc: mails? [was: Re: inconsistent mailgraph settings]

2021-08-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 25 Aug 2021, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Yes, but only the notification (and one needs to see the full message). > But what if the close message is sent when an empty From or with > a From containing the -cl...@bugs.debian.org address > of the bug[*] (such messages could come from

Re: Debhelper and /lib/systemd vs /usr/lib/systemd

2021-08-26 Thread Niels Thykier
Sam Hartman: >> "Niels" == Niels Thykier writes: > > Niels> If the project consensus of this discussion is aligned with > Niels> the belief that we should block decentralized volunteer work > Niels> on the transition, I will respect the decision. > > I was really frustrated readi

Re: Debhelper and /lib/systemd vs /usr/lib/systemd

2021-08-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-08-25 Niels Thykier wrote: [...] > As I understand it, the "have usrmerge package patch the dpkg database" > approach will only work if we ensure that each and every package stop > using / in bookworm+1. Hello, you missed the second part of the "plan". Editing dpkg database syncs the db

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2021-08-26 Timo Röhling wrote: [...] > However, Guillem also seems to think that dpkg can manage file > symlinks in a real directory better than an directory symlinks in /, > which is why he proposed symlink farms in the first place. Hello, Afaiui, the symlink farm would just work from dpkg's

Re: Debhelper and /lib/systemd vs /usr/lib/systemd

2021-08-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Niels" == Niels Thykier writes: Niels> If the project consensus of this discussion is aligned with Niels> the belief that we should block decentralized volunteer work Niels> on the transition, I will respect the decision. I was really frustrated reading that, and I hope that m

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Timo Röhling
Hi, * Sam Hartman [2021-08-26 08:56]: That may not matter so much for Debian (at least in some people's minds) but being compatible with the rest of the world has enough value in this instance that I consider the issue moot. I agree that this is a very convincing argument. A considerably weake

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Timo" == Timo Röhling writes: Timo> However, Guillem also seems to think that dpkg can manage file Timo> symlinks in a real directory better than an directory symlinks Timo> in /, which is why he proposed symlink farms in the first Timo> place. Assuming dpkg implements the

Re: Debian choice of upstream tarballs for packaging

2021-08-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi Thomas, On 8/26/21 4:16 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: "git archive" is reproducible, for simplicity I wouldn't use a prefix though. xz has some issues with reproducibility, AFAIK "-T2" makes it disable some internal heuristics that are based on the machine it is running on, and generates consist

Re: Debian choice of upstream tarballs for packaging

2021-08-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 8/25/21 4:35 PM, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > >> I wrote this many times, but I don't see why we should use any "upstream >> tarball" when the Git repository itself contains the tarball with: > >> git archive --prefix=$(DEBPKGNAME)-$(VERSION)/ $(GIT_TAG) \ >> | xz >../$(DEBPKGNAME)_$(VERSI

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 14:51 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/26/21 1:17 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > > Ideally the question whether a system works correctly would be a > > > technical, not a political one that is based on a majority vote of > > > people who do not look behind the faca

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Timo Röhling
* Simon Richter [2021-08-26 14:51]: It makes a lot more sense to have a dpkg-internal tool that can investigate the differences between the file system and the dpkg database, resolve conflicts (possibly in an interactive process when required by a corner case like the one I mentioned earlier

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 8/26/21 1:17 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote: Ideally the question whether a system works correctly would be a technical, not a political one that is based on a majority vote of people who do not look behind the facade. Precisely - and the correct technical question is, how many bug reports w

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 13:50 +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > Luca Boccassi writes: > > > On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 12:16 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On 8/26/21 8:38 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > > > > > By my definition, these have never been working correctly, but > > > > > sem

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Philip Hands
Luca Boccassi writes: > On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 12:16 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 8/26/21 8:38 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> >> > > By my definition, these have never been working correctly, but >> > > semantics I guess. >> >> > It is not semantics. You keep saying that countless De

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2021-08-26 at 12:16 +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 8/26/21 8:38 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > > By my definition, these have never been working correctly, but > > > semantics I guess. > > > It is not semantics. You keep saying that countless Debian and Ubuntu > > systems are no

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 8/26/21 8:38 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: By my definition, these have never been working correctly, but semantics I guess. It is not semantics. You keep saying that countless Debian and Ubuntu systems are not working correctly, but since this obviously does not reflect the experience of t

Automated backports based on Janitor work?

2021-08-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I'm really amazed by all the great work done around the Debian Janitor project. It's great to see how it focuses the maintainer's work on where there's some actual value with having humans in the loop. Watching the talk[0] on automatically providing packages for new upstream releases and new

Bug#993007: ITP: ovn -- Open Virtual Network (OVN)

2021-08-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: ovn Version : 21.06.0+ds1 Upstream Author : Nicira, Inc. * URL : https://github.com/ovn-org/ovn * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: C Des

Re: merged /usr vs. symlink farms

2021-08-26 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 26, Guillem Jover wrote: > By my definition, these have never been working correctly, but > semantics I guess. It is not semantics. You keep saying that countless Debian and Ubuntu systems are not working correctly, but since this obviously does not reflect the experience of the owners o