Work-needing packages report for Jul 23, 2021

2021-07-22 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 1225 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 203 (new: 0) Total number of packages reques

want help with autopkgtest for your package?

2021-07-22 Thread Antonio Terceiro
Hi, The Debian CI team would like to encourage and help more maintainers to add autopkgtest to their packages. To that effect, we now have a repository called autopkgtest-help on salsa, where we will take help requests from maintainers working on autopkgtest for their packages: https://salsa.debi

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-22 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 14:04 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 22, "Barak A. Pearlmutter" wrote: > > > People seem pretty worked up over this, but honestly I'm not > > understanding why. > Because they are scared by new things, hence they oppose merged-/usr > (and systemd before that, and udev

Re: merged /usr

2021-07-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to > have a file outside a limited set of directories (/etc and /usr would be > OK, but notably /bin /lib and /sbin wouldn't be) that is not a symlink. > This is easy

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 03:10:42PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Hi Guillem > > Am 19.07.21 um 03:36 schrieb Guillem Jover: > > What I've also said multiple times, is that > > merged-usr-via-moves-and-symlink-farms could have been implemented in > > a fully automated way, by debhelper, w/o requiri

Re: Need help with Multi-Arch in systemd

2021-07-22 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 08:08:13AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: > I also proposed a solution here, which is avoiding > SystemCallArchitectures=native. Initially, that sounds like a > maintenance nightmare until you notice that it can be solved on a > technical level. We already have dh_installsystem

Re: Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-22 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Barak, I appreciate your mail, but *sigh*, it's still frustrating, as pretty much many of the mails related to this, as they keep ignoring what has been said, and I feel like talking to a wall. :/ ] On Thu, 2021-07-22 at 11:48:34 +0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: > Seriously? Being able to

Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 22, "Barak A. Pearlmutter" wrote: > People seem pretty worked up over this, but honestly I'm not > understanding why. Because they are scared by new things, hence they oppose merged-/usr (and systemd before that, and udev even before...). But since they cannot admit that, then they need t

Re: Re: merged /usr considered harmful (was Re: Bits from the Technical Committee)

2021-07-22 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
Seriously? Being able to type dpkg -S $(which cat) instead of dpkg -S $(which cat|sed 's:^/usr::') is the big user-level pain point? People seem pretty worked up over this, but honestly I'm not understanding why. We already have $PATH which (let's be honest) is an ancient crappy workaround for