Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Otto, On Sat 08 Feb 2020 at 10:07PM +02, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I've ended up in being both the maintainer in Debian and an upstream > developer for a couple of packages and I have been fantasizing about > how to optimize my workflow so that I primarily fix all bugs and do QA > directly o

Re: GSoC projects about SUSI.AI

2020-02-08 Thread Mo Zhou
On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 01:10:36PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote: > What do you mean "packages involved". The core ML related package is by > now not completely free (snowboy) thus we have prepared a project that > also tries to incorporate Mycroft or some other OSS hotword module > which allows fo

Bug#950975: ITP: python3-xdelta3 -- Fast delta encoding in python using xdelta3

2020-02-08 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jelmer Vernooij * Package name: python3-xdelta3 Version : 0.0.6a1 Upstream Author : Samuel Colvin * URL : https://github.com/samuelcolvin/xdelta3-python * License : Apachev2 Programming Lang: Python Description :

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Alf Gaida
Hi Otto, i'm doing this for years now (LXQt) To sum it up: * there are no special rules, but i suggest to keep your hats strictly separated * if there are some doubts upstream - just think how you would feel with a release with your downstream hat on * if you release something upstream and have t

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 08.02.20 21:07, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > I've ended up in being both the maintainer in Debian and an upstream > developer for a couple of packages and I have been fantasizing about > how to optimize my workflow so that I primarily fix all bugs and do QA > directly on the upstream developme

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Simon Richter
On 08.02.20 22:39, Steve McIntyre wrote: > +1. A reasonable patch to allow this kind of thing would of course be > considered. It could even be pre-seeded to allow for easy control of > it. > I *think* we said something like that ages ago, but no sign of > patches. The installer patches are triv

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread David Bremner
Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Hi! > > Thanks for the example. I see you even maintain the changelog in upstream: > https://git.notmuchmail.org/git?p=notmuch;a=blob;f=debian/changelog;h=4f7457cd7f588e6d3a821bf1530cc1f8742c8d6f;hb=refs/heads/master Yes. > > But apparently "upstream" releases are deco

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! Thanks for the example. I see you even maintain the changelog in upstream: https://git.notmuchmail.org/git?p=notmuch;a=blob;f=debian/changelog;h=4f7457cd7f588e6d3a821bf1530cc1f8742c8d6f;hb=refs/heads/master But apparently "upstream" releases are decoupled from also bumping the Debian version?

Re: Heads up: persistent journal has been enabled in systemd

2020-02-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
Arg, typo in the list address. Sorry. :-( On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 09:28:50PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Hey Michael! > >Sorry for leaving you hanging here. Really busy week... > >Michael Biebl wrote: >>Am 01.02.20 um 14:36 schrieb Steve McIntyre: >>> Michael Biebl wrote: with today's

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <20200208121622.lu4vla6sasagven2@function> you write: >Svante Signell, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 13:03:20 +0100, a ecrit: >> On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 21:12 +, Sam Hartman wrote: >> > Unfortunately, I think that Debian has decided that's not directly our >> > focus. >> >> Just to make sure

Re: Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread David Bremner
Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Hello! > > I've ended up in being both the maintainer in Debian and an upstream > developer for a couple of packages and I have been fantasizing about > how to optimize my workflow so that I primarily fix all bugs and do QA > directly on the upstream development version

Best practices for Debian developers who are also upstreams?

2020-02-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! I've ended up in being both the maintainer in Debian and an upstream developer for a couple of packages and I have been fantasizing about how to optimize my workflow so that I primarily fix all bugs and do QA directly on the upstream development version (=upstream git master) and then have

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Alf Gaida, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 17:18:09 +0100, a ecrit: > Am 08.02.20 um 16:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > > Anything else? > > > Yes, you forget something - as long the discussion culture in Debian > stays this way i'm not motivated to start my NM process again. Please really do not take

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Alf Gaida
Am 08.02.20 um 16:15 schrieb Svante Signell: > > Anything else? > Yes, you forget something - as long the discussion culture in Debian stays this way i'm not motivated to start my NM process again. Waste of time to join a bunch of unripe kids. Sorry, but i find no other words with my limited en

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
This thread has served its purpose. Continuing this thread is neither consistent with our Code of Conduct nor with the idea of facilitating a productive on-topic discussion within the scope of the debian-devel mailing list. Among other reasons, the discussion is starting to repeat itself and to

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 8 février 2020, 16.15:13 h CET Svante Signell a écrit : > On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 14:51 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > > > It sounds like you were suggesting that people should leave as a way of > > > pressuring or punishing

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 16:15:13 +0100, a ecrit: > On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 14:51 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > > > Svante> Perhaps all [...] ought to leave the project, including > > > Svante> those having package not bei

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2020-02-08 at 14:51 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello Sam, > > Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > > Svante> Perhaps all [...] ought to leave the project, including > > Svante> those having package not being dependent on systemd. > > > > I am frustrated readi

Bug#950940: ITP: pocketsphinx-python -- Speech recognition tool - Python3 bindings

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Samuel Thibault * Package name: pocketsphinx-python Version : 0.1.15 Upstream Author : Dmitry Prazdnichnov * URL : https://github.com/bambocher/pocketsphinx-python/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Descriptio

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello Sam, Sam Hartman, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 08:27:24 -0500, a ecrit: > Svante> Perhaps all [...] ought to leave the project, including > Svante> those having package not being dependent on systemd. > > I am frustrated reading this. > It sounds like you were suggesting that people should leave a

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Svante" == Svante Signell writes: >> Yes, this may mean that the support for a particular alternate >> init system may be better in a downstream that focuses on that >> system than in Debian itself. Svante> Perhaps all Debian Developers and Maintainers opposing Svante

Re: Salsa CI as partial bikeshed

2020-02-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Paul" == Paul Wise writes: >> B) Using our own packages ensures that there is no diversion >> between what Debian ships and what Debian uses, so it can be >> bootstrapped on an island (which is the link to the DFSG) as a >> whole, not only the software it distributes.

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le sam. 08 févr. 2020 13:03:20 +0100, a ecrit: > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 21:12 +, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Unfortunately, I think that Debian has decided that's not directly our > > focus. > > Just to make sure: If I submit patches for the Debian installer for support of > more tha

Re: Debian With Alternate Init Systems

2020-02-08 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 21:12 +, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > "Svante" == Svante Signell writes: > > Svante> When is > Svante> Debian ever to offer a non-systemd alternative for > Svante> installation? > > I hear your frustration that you'd like to see Debian committed to > suppo

Bug#950922: ITP: bustools -- program for manipulating BUS files for single cell RNA-Seq datasets

2020-02-08 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alexandre Mestiashvili X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: bustools Version : 0.40.0 Upstream Author : Páll Melsted * URL : https://bustools.github.io/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ D

Re: packages that are touching /srv?

2020-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 12:34:01PM +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > what do we gain by this? > We do not let services start exposing information that was just lying > there because something else - or someone else - created a /srv/ftp > directory for some other use? thanks, makes sense. (though I

Re: packages that are touching /srv?

2020-02-08 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:06:54AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:05:20AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > That way, the layout of /srv is exclusively under the control of the > > sysadmin and Debian packages never touch it unless directed to do so. > > what do we gain by thi

Re: packages that are touching /srv?

2020-02-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 03:05:20AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > That way, the layout of /srv is exclusively under the control of the > sysadmin and Debian packages never touch it unless directed to do so. what do we gain by this? -- cheers, Holger