Re: BITS from the DPL For September/October 2019

2019-10-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 03:19:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > We've now had several years of essentially declining to make a decision > and trying to see if the project can muddle through, and while I feel > somewhat vindicated by the fact that this didn't immediately fall apart > and has sort of

Re: BITS from the DPL For September/October 2019

2019-10-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Thomas Goirand writes: > The last time we've had a GR on init systems, the general response was > that we don't want to vote, and we preferred the TC to decide. I don't think the core questions here are technical questions. I think they're more fundamental questions of project direction and que

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Of course this means that the resulting source packages are not the "3.0 > (quilt)" patch queue source packages that many people (even some people > who like git) say is important to them. > A key design goal for dgit and my tag2upload proposal, is that (when > used in the

Re: BITS from the DPL For September/October 2019

2019-10-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/29/19 6:16 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > Init System Policy > == > > last Bits mail, I talked about how I was considering whether we needed a > GR on Init System Policy. The last time we've had a GR on init systems, the general response was that we don't want to vote, and we pref

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format"): > And therefore the goal of this proposal is to define a source package > format that allows this to be done more easily than our current source > package format allows? Of course this means that the resulting source packages are no

Bug#943791: general: laptop HP 15_bw0xx does not power-off properly

2019-10-29 Thread Christian Quentin
Package: general Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, * when I ask Debian to stop (from Gnome), the shutdown sequence seems to follow the usual steps, the a blank screen appears.The screen is not completely off. The PC does not power-off. * As the PC does not stop, I have to press the power button 1

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Blank writes: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:19:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Could you help me understand what this would look like? Is it something >> like this workflow? >> >> 1. tag2upload determines the local Git tree that should be uploaded as a >>new source package. >> >>

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Russ On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:19:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Could you help me understand what this would look like? Is it something > like this workflow? > > 1. tag2upload determines the local Git tree that should be uploaded as a >new source package. > > 2. tag2upload locally c

Bug#943785: ITP: python-pyjsparser -- Fast JavaScript parser written in Python

2019-10-29 Thread Peter Wienemann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Wienemann Package name: python-pyjsparser Version : 2.7.1 Upstream Author : Piotr Dabkowski URL : https://github.com/PiotrDabkowski/pyjsparser License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Fast

Bug#943783: ITP: python-js2py -- JavaScript to Python translator

2019-10-29 Thread Peter Wienemann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Wienemann Package name: python-js2py Version : 0.66 Upstream Author : Piotr Dabkowski URL : https://github.com/PiotrDabkowski/Js2Py License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : JavaScript to P

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bastian" == Bastian Blank writes: >> I don't think this proposal is sufficiently well developed where >> you're going to get much good feedback on debian-devel. Bastian> What would be the correct location for it? I'm fairly frustrated that you snipped the key part of my mail

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Bastian Blank writes: > We had that discussion already, it is about the possibility of > reproducing the content of the upload. The tag2upload proposal said > they can't do it and everyone need to trust this service to do the right > thing. I like to solve this problem and allow such a tool/ser

Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format

2019-10-29 Thread Bastian Blank
On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 07:33:47AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > My initial reaction is that this is additional complexity in a direction > that we don't need. It is not a question of complexity. It is a question of trust and who we want and need to trust. If we abolish the principle that we want

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)

2019-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)"): > I think I'd trust the tag2upload service given the documentation you > presented about it. I'm less faithful in all dgit installations being > sane, sorry. We've run into to

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)

2019-10-29 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi Didier On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:05:11AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Of course, all of this can only work if we can have, or make the ".git to > .dsc" conversion reproducible; hence my query. Now, please read the first mail of this thread again. Yes, maybe parts of it are unclear,

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)

2019-10-29 Thread Helmut Grohne
Hi Ian, On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:54:57PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > I wonder if I have misunderstood you, because: > > The tag2upload proposal is based on dgit, which already provides this. > dgit indeed defines an isomorphism between source packages and git > trees, and dgit clone gives a git

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)

2019-10-29 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)"): > In other words, I want these formats (source package and tagged git > tree) to be isomorphic (minus history). This requirement is too strong > since not every source package

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly

2019-10-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-10-29 08:32, Tobias Frost wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:53:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: (...) For example, you would not be able to do this: git clone salsa:something cd something make some straightforward change git tag# } [1] git push # } Instead you would

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Re: Summary: BLAS/LAPACK Ecosys Massive Update

2019-10-29 Thread Mo Zhou
On 2019-10-29 09:20, Benda Xu wrote: > Does that imply the blas64 inside src:julia could be finally unbundled? Further investigation needed. I'm still thinking of a better solution than compiling a decicated openblas from src:openblas for julia.

Bug#943756: ITP: nomad-driver-podman -- Nomad taskdriver for Podman containers

2019-10-29 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dmitry Smirnov X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, pkg-go-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org Control: affects -1 src:nomad Control: block -1 by 943743 930440 Package name: nomad-driver-podman Version: 0.0~git2019 Upstream Author: p

Re: Summary: BLAS/LAPACK Ecosys Massive Update

2019-10-29 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Mo, Mo Zhou writes: > Hi fellow developers, > > A good news especially for Debian scientific computing users. > I shall call it a massive update, even if the whole update > was decomposed into many tiny steps where some of them > had already been finished 1 year ago. > > [...] Congratulation

Re: Building Debian source packages reproducibly (was: Re: [RFC] Proposal for new source format)

2019-10-29 Thread Tobias Frost
Hi Ian, On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 05:53:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: (...) > For example, you would not be able to do this: >git clone salsa:something >cd something >make some straightforward change >git tag# } [1] >git push # } > Instead you would have to download the