Bug#929504: ITP: odysseus-web-browser -- A web browser focusing on decentralized discovery

2019-05-24 Thread Adrian Lyall Cochrane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adrian Lyall Cochrane * Package name: odysseus-web-browser Version : 1.5.17 Upstream Author : Adrian Cochrane * URL : http://odysseus.adrian.geek.nz/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Vala Description : A web bro

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2019-05-24 at 10:43 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I wonder whether we'd accept a developer's assertion that some large pdf > in a source package could be rebuilt without actually rebuilding it on > every upload. As I understand it, ftp-master policy is that things in main be buildable from

Re: NMUs: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-24 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Fri 24 May 2019 at 04:01PM +02, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 14/05/19 at 14:30 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: >> I think there's a fairly clear consensus emerging that it's worth having >> things to check when making a build system conversion. Looking at >> debdiff, ditherscope and re

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:43:34AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I wonder whether we'd accept a developer's assertion that some large pdf > in a source package could be rebuilt without actually rebuilding it on > every upload. > I think we probably would. I dont think so, actually and AFAIK, we don

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Paul" == Paul Wise writes: Paul> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:58 AM Sam Hartman wrote: >> So for deep learning models we would require that they be >> retrainable and typically require that we have retrained them. Paul> I don't think it is currently feasible for Debian to ret

Re: NMUs: Do we want to Require or Recommend DH

2019-05-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 14/05/19 at 14:30 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > I think there's a fairly clear consensus emerging that it's worth having > things to check when making a build system conversion. Looking at > debdiff, ditherscope and reproducibility of the build all appear to be > important things to consider

RE:Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
What about ibm power9 with pocl ? it seems that this is better than the latest NVIDIA GPU. Cheers

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, 2019-05-24 at 03:14 -0700, Mo Zhou wrote: > Non-free nvidia driver is inevitable. > AMD GPUs and OpenCL are not sane choices. So no model which cannot be CPU-trained is suitable for Debian main. > Don't doubt. Nouveau can never support CUDA well. There is coriander but nouveau doesn't s

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:37:41PM -0700, Mo Zhou wrote: > - The datasets used for training a "ToxicCandy" may be > private/non-free and not everybody can access them. (This case is more > likely a result of problematic upstream licensing, but it sometimes > happens). > > One got a free mode

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Mo Zhou
On 2019-05-24 15:59, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:58 AM Sam Hartman wrote: > >> So for deep learning models we would require that they be retrainable >> and typically require that we have retrained them. > > I don't think it is currently feasible for Debian to retrain the > models

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:58 AM Sam Hartman wrote: > So for deep learning models we would require that they be retrainable > and typically require that we have retrained them. I don't think it is currently feasible for Debian to retrain the models. I don't think we have any buildds with GPUs yet.

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Mo Zhou
On 2019-05-23 17:58, Sam Hartman wrote: > So for deep learning models we would require that they be retrainable > and typically require that we have retrained them. The two difficulties make the above point not easy to achieve: https://salsa.debian.org/lumin/deeplearning-policy#difficulties-questi

Re: Bits from /me: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-05-24 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Andy, On 2019-05-23 17:52, Andy Simpkins wrote: > Sam. > Whilst i agree that "assets" in some packages may not have sources > with them and the application may still be in main if it pulls in > those assets from contrib or non free. > I am trying to suggest the same thing here. If the data set