Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Alessio Treglia
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 9:51 PM Enzo Nicosia wrote: > Please, just tell us who we should contact (current/last > maintainer?) to start working on that. That's easy [1]. Thanks. [1] https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org -- Alessio Treglia

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Enzo Nicosia
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 09:16:37AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18 AM Adam Borowski wrote: > > > The main problem with sysvinit is the lack of a git repository. > > There is an upstream git repository with commits up to September 2018: > > http://savannah.nongnu.org/proje

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 12:18 AM Adam Borowski wrote: > The main problem with sysvinit is the lack of a git repository. There is an upstream git repository with commits up to September 2018: http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/sysvinit http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/sysvinit.git -- bye, p

Bug#911116: ITP: python-anyqt -- Qt4/Qt5 compatibility layer

2018-10-15 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: python-anyqt * URL : https://github.com/ales-erjavec/anyqt * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Qt4/Qt5 compatibility layer About to appear on salsa.debian.org/python-team/mo

Bug#911115: ITP: xfce4-screensaver -- screen saver and locker that is integrated with the xfce4 desktop

2018-10-15 Thread Jonathan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Carter * Package name: xfce4-screensaver Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Sean M. Davis URL : https://git.xfce.org/apps/xfce4-screensaver/ * License : GPL-2 / LGPL-2.1 / LGPL-2 Programming Lang: C Descript

Bug#911111: ITP: python-louvain -- community graph analysis implementing Louvain method

2018-10-15 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: python-louvain * URL : https://github.com/taynaud/python-louvain * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : community graph analysis implementing Louvain method A dependency for th

Bug#911106: ITP: orange3 -- machine learning suite for python

2018-10-15 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: orange3 Version : 3.0.15 * URL : https://orange.biolab.si * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++, Python Description : machine learning suite for python About to appear on https://

Bug#911105: ITP: python-serverfiles -- accesses files on a HTTP server and stores them locally for reuse

2018-10-15 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: python-serverfiles Version : 0.2.1 * URL : https://github.com/biolab/serverfiles * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : accesses files on a HTTP server and stores them

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:02:37PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > I’ve volunteered to help out earlier in the thread, within constraints > > (but rather that than to see things go and break). > > The main problem with sysvinit is

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Adam Borowski, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 18:02:37 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Matthew Vernon wrote: > > >interest/effort in getting sysvinit (and related bits) in a better state > > >for buster, do drop me a line. > > > > I’ve volunteered to he

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Note, I can with authority, as the person introducing dependency based > boot and shutdown ordering in Debian, report that insserv were not > introduced for parallell boot, nor for boot speed. It was introduced to > correct broken boot and shutdow

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Thorsten Glaser] > Hmm. This does not answer the question, while it does point out one > package. I’d rather sysvinit not depend on insserv, it used to work > fine without that kind of added complexity, and AIUI, it was only > used for parallel boots Note, I can with authority, as the person intr

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 15.10.18, 17:56: > Anyway, I will make Devuan people aware of this discussion. Let's see > whether someone likes to cooperate. As Evilham also pointed out, Devuan people are aware of this discussion already: [devuan-dev] sysvinit in debian is under threat of being dropped fo

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Svante Signell, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 17:49:23 +0200, a ecrit: > On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 17:06 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > It's a matter of people subscribing to the > > pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org list and discussing there, > > I > > don't see why anything heavier would be needed

Re: Bug#911090: libapt-pkg5.0: incompatible with apt/stretch

2018-10-15 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 05:12:10PM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > Package: libapt-pkg5.0 > Version: 1.7.0 > Severity: serious > > Hi, > > I just did a partial upgrade on a stretch+buster+sid development > system resulting in apt-get erroring out with > > apt-get: relocation error: /usr/lib/x8

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 04:18:57PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Matthew Vernon wrote: > > >I'm aware of some work ongoing at the moment to try and improve matters > >(currently looking at elongind, for example). If anyone's got some > > What’s elongind? elogind? Never heard of it… elogind is

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Ansgar Burchardt - 15.10.18, 16:03: > On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > I believe Andreas Henriksson is right, the packages are going to > > > be > > > removed unless someone with time and intere

Re: Debian packaging, dependency management and the C++ standards meeting

2018-10-15 Thread Vincas Dargis
On 2018-10-03 22:43, Jussi Pakkanen wrote: Well, there are about three meetings per year, and I doubt the next meeting will be some soft of "definitive" (or will it?) It is the last meeting where things can be added to C++20 so I would call that definitive. The tooling group that will try t

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 17:06 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > It's a matter of people subscribing to the > pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org list and discussing there, > I > don't see why anything heavier would be needed. I thought alioth was no more, but maybe the mailing list remains?

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Evilham, le lun. 15 oct. 2018 16:27:25 +0200, a ecrit: > Where to now? > At devuan-dev, Adam Sampson has suggested that the debian-bsd and > debian-hurd communities are also very interested in keeping non-systemd > things working, Yes, but they aren't populated so much either, with already a lot o

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Evilham
Dear debian-devel, Am 15/10/2018 um 15:20 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > [ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not > set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation, > Thorsten… ] > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: >

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 15 Oct 2018, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > [ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not > set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation, > Thorsten… ] Thanks… will follow up on those I read up on in the web interface (why is there no NNTP interface

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On Mon, 2018-10-15 at 14:20 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > I believe Andreas Henriksson is right, the packages are going to be > > removed unless someone with time and interest show up to take care of > > them. A good start

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 02:20:03PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Is it worth interested parties reaching out to the Devuan project > regarding person-power for sysvinit maintenance? It's hard to discuss this with a straight face, but in any case even they admit they don't have any person-power:

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
[ re-adding TG who requested CCs in an earlier message, but has not set Mail-Followup-To:. You've probably missed half the conversation, Thorsten… ] On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 06:56:50AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: I believe Andreas Henriksson is right, the packages are going to be removed un

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Matthew Vernon
Holger Levsen writes: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 06:01:43AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > Has policy changed regarding support for multiple inits, or is it just that >> > no one is maintaining the shim and sysvinit-core? >> >> The latter. systemd-shim has been orphaned for over 2 years, and h

Bug#911076: ITP: libdeflate -- fast, whole-buffer DEFLATE-based compression and decompression

2018-10-15 Thread Michael R. Crusoe
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Med team * Package name: libdeflate Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Eric Biggers * URL : https://github.com/ebiggers/libdeflate * License : MIT Programming Lang: C Description : fast, whole-buffer DEFLATE-

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 08:46:31AM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2018, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > > > > > Please note that sysvinit dependencies still have open RC bugs which > > > noone is caring for. > > > > Oof. How do I find them out? The BTS

Re: Bug#910446: NMU diff (substantive patches in git-format-patch form)

2018-10-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Guido Günther writes ("Re: Bug#910446: NMU diff (substantive patches in git-format-patch form)"): > It's not that much trouble for me but rather sad that people spent time > on (in this case) just tedious work while they could fix other stuff > in the same time since the maintainer is already on i

Re: Bug#910446: NMU diff (substantive patches in git-format-patch form)

2018-10-15 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 10:55:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Guido Günther writes ("Re: Bug#910446: NMU diff (substantive patches in > git-format-patch form)"): > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2018 at 03:36:49PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Hi. I fixed this bug, and some other FTBFS, and am about to

Re: Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-15 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Thorsten Glaser wrote: On Sun, 14 Oct 2018, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > Please note that sysvinit dependencies still have open RC bugs which > noone is caring for. Oof. How do I find them out? The BTS shows no RC bugs, not even ones tagged as affects src:sysvinit, and the QA page https://packa