Re: Bug#906183: Dependency change and upgrade

2018-09-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 12:36:30AM +, Devarajulu, Mohanasundaram wrote: > During the upgrade if all the packages are installed then upgrade is > going through well. If only the dev package with the problem and its > dependencies are installed, by default apt keeps the packages back as it > does

possible conflict over the /usr/bin/ia namespace

2018-09-24 Thread Antoine Beaupré
Hi, TL;DR: new package from archive.org conflicts with existing `ia` binary from python-duckduckgo2. Policy §10.1 consensus sought. I'm in the process of packaging the Internet Archive (archive.org) Python commandline client and that installs a client that is conveniently called "ia" in /usr/bin.

Bug#906183: Dependency change and upgrade

2018-09-24 Thread Devarajulu, Mohanasundaram
Hello All, One of the dev package, if installed alone, leads to a dangling symlink as the package that installs the files is not depended upon (not installed). After lots of discussions we found that it is better for the dev package to depend on the binary meta package. So the dependencies were

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-09-24 09:38, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ideally, we would never reuse the name of a binary package for some > unrelated piece of software, Nor source package. Why not "elisa-music-player" or whatever?

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 07:19:57PM +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > For me this concern is about asking upstream for a change that is caused > by something more or less Debian-internal - although other distributions > might have that issue as well. So it should rather be handled inside > Debian. Ar

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Christoph Biedl writes: > For me this concern is about asking upstream for a change that is caused > by something more or less Debian-internal - although other distributions > might have that issue as well. So it should rather be handled inside > Debian. > And I subscribe to that position. Upst

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-09-24 18:07:11 +0200 (+0200), W. Martin Borgert wrote: > Quoting Aurélien COUDERC : > > I’m working on packaging Elisa, a modern and simple music player based > > on the KDE Frameworks stack. [0][1] > > > > I initially named the package elisa, but such a package already existed > > in the

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.09.18 um 19:19 schrieb Christoph Biedl: > For me this concern is about asking upstream for a change that is caused > by something more or less Debian-internal - although other distributions > might have that issue as well. So it should rather be handled inside > Debian. So if other distros

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Christoph Biedl
Michael Biebl wrote... > Am 24.09.18 um 16:24 schrieb Sean Whitton: > > > Aurélien can use his judgement, but I'd advise against this -- it has > > the potential to make upstream less happy about their software being > > included in Debian. > > I don't understand. Can you elaborate why you think m

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:38:24AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ideally, we would never reuse the name of a binary package for some > unrelated piece of software Indeed. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:24:05PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:21:14AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > This causes a ton of headaches for the archive software. IIRC, I believe > > dak is rather unhappy about version numbers going backwards > This is unfortunate. a

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:21:14AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> apt is going to have no idea what to do for a system that already has >> the previous package installed. > This is not a problem as upgrading to an unrelated software is not > something that we should c

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Chris Lamb
Jonathan, > +1 from me. Epochs are not only painful for maintainers, they are > confusing for users too. Completely agree with this. As an curiosa-like aside, I once deliberately bumped an epoch in order to be *less* confusing to users. The somewhat unique background and confluence of events wa

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 09:21:14AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > This causes a ton of headaches for the archive software. IIRC, I believe > dak is rather unhappy about version numbers going backwards This is unfortunate. > apt is going to have no idea what to do for a system that already has the >

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Russ Allbery
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:53:04PM +0200, Aurélien COUDERC wrote: >> FTP masters rejected the upload of the new elisa 0.2.1-1 as the package >> has a lower version than the former Elisa project and they proposed >> bumping the epoch and reusing the name. > I don't fi

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:53:04PM +0200, Aurélien COUDERC wrote: > FTP masters rejected the upload of the new elisa 0.2.1-1 as the package has a > lower version than the former Elisa project and they proposed bumping the > epoch > and reusing the name. I don't find this reasonable to be honest.

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.09.18 um 16:24 schrieb Sean Whitton: > Hello, > > On Sun 23 Sep 2018 at 11:49PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Another idea could be to inform upstream of this situation. Maybe they >> are willing to bump the version number from say 0.2 to 1.2 > > Aurélien can use his judgement, but I'd

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Aurélien COUDERC : I’m working on packaging Elisa, a modern and simple music player based on the KDE Frameworks stack. [0][1] I initially named the package elisa, but such a package already existed in the archive in the past. In a similar case, I just renamed the package. There used

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sun 23 Sep 2018 at 11:49PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Another idea could be to inform upstream of this situation. Maybe they > are willing to bump the version number from say 0.2 to 1.2 Aurélien can use his judgement, but I'd advise against this -- it has the potential to make upstr

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:51:05PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: You should see Michael Biebl's suggestions for alternative approaches. I think it is fine if you decide to reject them but you should at least consider them. In particular see also Sean's response about not reusing the same (upstream o

Bug#909483: ITP: node-worker-loader -- worker loader module for webpack

2018-09-24 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-worker-loader Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Tobias Koppers @sokra * URL : https://github.com/webpack-contrib/worker-loader * License : Ex

Re: Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa"

2018-09-24 Thread Ian Jackson
Aurélien COUDERC writes ("Bumping epoch and reusing package name "elisa""): > FTP masters rejected the upload of the new elisa 0.2.1-1 as the > package has a lower version than the former Elisa project and they > proposed bumping the epoch and reusing the name. It seems reasonable > to me as it lea

Bug#909463: ITP: flang -- Fortran compiler using the LLVM toolkit

2018-09-24 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: flang Version : 7.0 Upstream Author : Steve Scalpone * URL : https://github.com/flang-compiler * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++, Fortran Description : Fortran compiler usin

Bug#909457: ITP: blis -- BLAS-like Library Instantiation Software Framework

2018-09-24 Thread Mo Zhou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org Owner: Mo Zhou * Package name: blis Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : The University of Texas at Austin, HP Enterprise, AMD Inc. * URL : https://github.com/flame/blis * License : BSD