Bug#896717: buster release notes: python2 will be EOL upstream by 2020

2018-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
package: release-notes severity: wishlist x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Tue, Apr 24, 2018 at 05:37:00AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > Reminder: The release-notes does have a section for "deprecations" (Note > as I recall, it was empty for stretch, so it is probably not visible the

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Matthias Klose
On 24.04.2018 07:37, Niels Thykier wrote: > Thomas Goirand: >> [...] >>> I'm generally in favor of getting rid of old stuff, but python2 isn't >>> there yet. >> >> Right. But I do believe we need to be very careful to not send a wrong >> message to our users. Debian deprecating Python 2 is good. A

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 23 avril 2018 23:54 +0200, Thomas Goirand  : > Isn't 10 years of Python 3 enough time for a migration? Python 3.3, the first release people could reasonably start migrating to, is from 2012. Before that, it was very difficult to have a codebase compatible with Python 2 and Python 3. Debian Whe

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Niels Thykier
Thomas Goirand: > [...] >> I'm generally in favor of getting rid of old stuff, but python2 isn't >> there yet. > > Right. But I do believe we need to be very careful to not send a wrong > message to our users. Debian deprecating Python 2 is good. A strong, > bold deprecation message is needed, eve

graphs at https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html have intermissions.

2018-04-23 Thread Geert Stappers
Hello, The graphs at https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html have intermissions. What used to be a contineus line is now a dotted line. This posting to d-devel@ldo is for asking where to report the issue. Who to contact to get it fixed? Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven

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Bug#896712: ITP: golang-github-dataence-porter2 -- Native Go English Porter2 stemmer

2018-04-23 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Aaron M. Ucko" * Package name: golang-github-dataence-porter2(-dev) Version : 0.0~git20150829.0.56e4718 Upstream Author : Jian Zhen / Dataence, LLC * URL : https://github.com/dataence/porter2 * License : Apache 2.0 Pro

Bug#896708: ITP: maven-cache-cleanup -- Utility to purge timestamped snapshots from Maven repositories

2018-04-23 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: maven-cache-cleanup Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : Yuri Nadestin * URL : https://github.com/nadestin/tools * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java Description : Utility to p

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/21/2018 11:19 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Since we are supporting Python2 in the next release, there is no value> in > dumping python-* packages now. Unlike many areas of the archive, > Python packages are actively used by third-party code that isn't and > won't be in Debian. There's alway

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/23/2018 01:41 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Chris Lamb writes ("Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules"): >> Hi Julien, >>> I found strange to put an override for this so I didn't. >> >> I'm afraid I'm struggling to see Lintian could be any clearer >> here: >> >> N:If upstream have not moved

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/21/2018 07:57 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Hi, > > first two facts: > > 1. Upstream EOL for Python 2 is 2020 > > 2. Debian will fully (security) support Python 2 in buster >until the EOL of buster (ETA: mid-2022) > > > Python 2 is obsolete, no doubt about that. > > But in many cases a L

Re: Bug#896696: lintian: please improve tag description to explain that python 2 modules are only questioned on 1st upload

2018-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 07:05:41PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > It does, no? The current text is: ah, thanks for clarifying. I indeed filed the bug only by judging what was said and quoted on -devel@. Sorry for the noise! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#896696: lintian: please improve tag description to explain that python 2 modules are only questioned on 1st upload

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Holger, > > For example, I think Holger is interpreting this particular tag as > > "this source package is shipping a Python 2.x" module. This is not > > the case. > > Then the lintian message should be appended to say this only happens on > the first upload. It does, no? The current text is:

Bug#896696: lintian: please improve tag description to explain that python 2 modules are only questioned on 1st upload

2018-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
package: lintian severity: wishlist x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 06:33:20PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > For example, I think Holger is interpreting this particular tag as > "this source package is shipping a Python 2.x" module. This is not > the case. > > Ra

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear -devel, > N:Please do not override this warning; rather, add a justification to your > N:changelog entry; Lintian looks in this version's changelog entry for the > N:specified package name or the phrase "Python 2 version" or similar. > I'm also struggling with how to rephrase thi

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules"): > I actually face the issue you are trying to exclude here. You likely > know that I work on making packages cross-buildable and I do not stop at > python extensions. As it happens, cross building extensions tends to > work for Pytho

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 08:57:55PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The tip of the iceberg are some recent cases where Python 2 modules > were dropped that still had reverse dependencies in unstable, but > also for those without there will in many cases be users who will > still need these modules in bu

Bug#896692: ITP: node-ret -- Node.js module to parse regular expressions

2018-04-23 Thread Paolo Greppi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paolo Greppi * Package name: node-ret Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : fent (https://github.com/fent) * URL : https://github.com/fent/ret.js#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Description : Nod

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Stuart Prescott writes ("Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules"): > Ian Jackson wrote: > > Can lintian tell whether there is a Python 3 module too ? If so then > > I think a better criterion for warning would be "there is no Python 3 > > module". > > $ lintian-info -t python-foo-but-no-python3-

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 12:41:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > N:If upstream have not moved or have no intention to move to Python 3, > > N:please be certain that Debian would benefit from the inclusion, > > N:continued maintenance burden and (eventual) removal of this package > > N:

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Stuart Prescott
Ian Jackson wrote: > Can lintian tell whether there is a Python 3 module too ? If so then > I think a better criterion for warning would be "there is no Python 3 > module". $ lintian-info -t python-foo-but-no-python3-foo W: python-foo-but-no-python3-foo N: N: This source package appears to gene

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 03:46:36AM +, Luke W Faraone wrote: > > you make it sound like the lintian maintainers are a bunch of lunatics, > > but according to src:piuparts/debian/copyright, that's us, the piuparts > > maintainers. the lintian maintainers (and uploaders) are a bunch of > > (ex- an

Bug#896669: ITP: regions -- A Python astronomy package region handling

2018-04-23 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher Control: block 795369 by -1 X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-as...@lists.debian.org * Package name : regions Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Christoph Deil and Johannes King * URL : https://ast

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Ian Jackson
Chris Lamb writes ("Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules"): > Hi Julien, > > I found strange to put an override for this so I didn't. > > I'm afraid I'm struggling to see Lintian could be any clearer > here: > > N:If upstream have not moved or have no intention to move to Python 3, > N:

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Julien, > I found strange to put an override for this so I didn't. I'm afraid I'm struggling to see Lintian could be any clearer here: N:If upstream have not moved or have no intention to move to Python 3, N:please be certain that Debian would benefit from the inclusion, N:contin

Re: Please do not drop Python 2 modules

2018-04-23 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 01:52:22AM +0200, Julien Muchembled wrote: > A lintian warning is even a reason for REJECT. "I" (my mentor) uploaded > a new source package "zodbpickle" 5 weeks ago and I wonder if it's stuck > because of this. I found strange to put an override for this so I > didn't. "Stuc