Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:20:41 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 11.07.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Guus Sliepen: > > Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not > > ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we > > want: > > > > - A simple name for syst

can't start GUI mode debian 9

2017-07-11 Thread Agung Vega
Then what next? I want to use gui version (I had sent an email about the same problem, before this one )

Re: Crossgrading in stretch

2017-07-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Jose M Calhariz wrote: > Anyone have recently done a Crossgrading in stretch? I have not, but I think it would be interesting to have automated testing of individual packages via piuparts.d.o and various default configurations via jenkins.d.n. -- bye, pabs http

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 11 2017, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 at 13:45:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> I got to ask: Why? We do not have stable names for e.g. disks. Why do >> we need it for network devices? > > We do have stable names for disks: look in /dev/disk/by-* and you'll see > a bewilderin

Processed: Re: general: Sleep not reliable

2017-07-11 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > tags 868061 + moreinfo Bug #868061 [general] general: Sleep not reliable Added tag(s) moreinfo. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 868061: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=868061 Debi

Bug#868061: general: Sleep not reliable

2017-07-11 Thread Chris Lamb
tags 868061 + moreinfo thanks Hi Oliver, > sleep mode is not reliable. My Notebook wakes up in my bag and heats up > to insane temperature. This could destroy my notebook, the life time is > definitely shortend. I'm sorry to hear the potential damage to your laptop. I think you need to provide a

Crossgrading in stretch

2017-07-11 Thread Jose M Calhariz
Anyone have recently done a Crossgrading in stretch? Do you want to share your experience? I have followed the instructions https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading, more or less, and done the crossgrade from 32bits to 64bits. I managed to successfully crossgrade X11 and Mate desktop to 64bits. Som

Bug#868061: general: Sleep not reliable

2017-07-11 Thread Oliver Rabe
Package: general Severity: important Dear Maintainer, sleep mode is not reliable. My Notebook wakes up in my bag and heats up to insane temperature. This could destroy my notebook, the life time is definitely shortend. -- System Information: Debian Release: 9.0 APT prefers stable APT policy:

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 01:45:25PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > The remaining problem is to make ifupdown do device matching on other > (and hopefully more stable) attributes than the device name. This is not impossible to do. I actually have some code to make ifupdown use interface matching, I'm a

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

2017-07-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Previously I could ask a user to do e.g. 'ifconfig wwan0'. Now? sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; and probably also: sudo iw dev|awk '/^phy/'|xargs -IIFACE sudo iw IFACE info -- Don Armstrong https://www.donarmstrong.com What I can't sta

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Matt Zagrabelny, on mar. 11 juil. 2017 09:53:58 -0500, wrote: > > Relatedly, network device name lengths are limited to the length of > some > > arbitrarily-sized struct field in the kernel ABI, > > > > Feature request to bump the

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matt Zagrabelny, on mar. 11 juil. 2017 09:53:58 -0500, wrote: > Relatedly, network device name lengths are limited to the length of some > arbitrarily-sized struct field in the kernel ABI, > > Feature request to bump the size of of interface names struct? Any reason to > not do so? One re

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Samuel Thibault
Simon McVittie, on mar. 11 juil. 2017 15:18:26 +0100, wrote: > Network devices are (as far as I know) the only class of device managed by > udev that is not backed by a device node, which means udev cannot provide > multiple equivalent names for the same device, Couldn't that be what should be fix

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jul 11 2017, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 11.07.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Guus Sliepen: >> Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not >> ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we >> want: >> >> - A simple name for systems with a single Etherne

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 at 13:45:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > > I got to ask: Why? We do not have stable names for e.g. disks. Why do > > we need it for network devices? > > We do have stable names for disks: look in /dev/disk/by-* and you'l

Re: Naming of network devices

2017-07-11 Thread Marvin Renich
* Vincent Bernat [170710 16:25]: > ❦ 10 juillet 2017 15:53 -0400, Marvin Renich  : > > >> > With the new scheme, if I want to rename the interface to something more > >> > meaningful, ..., and type all of > >> > that information by hand, hoping I type everything correctly. > >> > >> Have a look

Bug#868050: ITP: golang-github-shibukawa-configdir -- Configuration directories handling for Go

2017-07-11 Thread Diego M. Rodriguez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Diego M. Rodriguez * Package name: golang-github-shibukawa-configdir Version : 0.0~git20170330.0.e180dbd-1 Upstream Author : Yoshiki Shibukawa * URL : https://github.com/shibukawa/configdir * License : Expat Programming

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 at 13:45:25 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > I got to ask: Why? We do not have stable names for e.g. disks. Why do > we need it for network devices? We do have stable names for disks: look in /dev/disk/by-* and you'll see a bewildering variety of ways to refer to the same disk or p

Bug#868045: ITP: vim-airline-themes -- official theme collection for vim-airline

2017-07-11 Thread Jonathan Carter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Carter * Package name: vim-airline-themes Version : git-master Upstream Author : Bailey Ling * URL : https://github.com/vim-airline/vim-airline-themes * License : expat Programming Lang: vim-config Descripti

Bug#868044: ITP: vim-airline -- Lean & mean status/tabline for vim that's light as air

2017-07-11 Thread Jonathan Carter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonathan Carter * Package name: vim-airline Version : 0.8-1 Upstream Author : Bailey Ling * URL : https://github.com/vim-airline/vim-airline * License : expat Programming Lang: vimconfig Description : Lean & mean

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 11.07.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Guus Sliepen: > Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not > ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we > want: > > - A simple name for systems with a single Ethernet and/or Wireless > interface (the simple d

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Harald Dunkel
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 12:14:59 +0200 Guus Sliepen wrote: > > So, what can we do to improve the situation and get the best of both > worlds? > systemd.link(5) describes a NamePolicy option for interface names. I would suggest to introduce a new policy "keep" to stick with the native interface n

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Bjørn Mork
Guus Sliepen writes: > Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not > ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we > want: > > - A simple name for systems with a single Ethernet and/or Wireless > interface (the simple desktop/laptop scenario)

Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

2017-07-11 Thread Guus Sliepen
Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we want: - A simple name for systems with a single Ethernet and/or Wireless interface (the simple desktop/laptop scenario). - A consistent naming scheme for

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

2017-07-11 Thread Bjørn Mork
Samuel Thibault writes: > Vincent Bernat, on lun. 10 juil. 2017 20:55:29 +0200, wrote: > >> Other major distributions are using this new scheme (notably Ubuntu >> which has no reason to have users smarter than ours) > > The reasoning is the converse: non-techy users will just not be exposed > to i

Bug#868013: ITP: dh-fortran-mod -- debhelper add-on to handle Fortran '.mod' files

2017-07-11 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: dh-fortran-mod Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Sebastien Villemont * URL : http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-science/packages/dh-fortran-mod.git * License : GPL3 Programming