Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 19:30 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Hutchings writes: > > On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 16:09 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > > However, at the time when I ran ntpdate, ntp was not running.  I had > > > > brought up the network manually due to an inte

Bug#856339: ITP: kanboard-cli -- kanboard command line client

2017-02-27 Thread 陳昌倬
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: =?utf-8?b?Q2hhbmdaaHVvIENoZW4gKOmZs+aYjOWArCk=?= * Package name: kanboard-cli Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Copyright (c) 2016 Frederic Guillot * URL : https://github.com/kanboard/kanboard-cli * License : Expat Prog

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 16:09 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Daniel Pocock writes: >>> However, at the time when I ran ntpdate, ntp was not running.  I had >>> brought up the network manually due to an interface renaming issue on >>> the first boot.  Maybe when somebody run

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 16:09 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > However, at the time when I ran ntpdate, ntp was not running.  I had > > brought up the network manually due to an interface renaming issue on > > the first boot.  Maybe when somebody runs ntpdate in a scenario

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Hutchings writes: > On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 11:18 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The much simpler systemd-timesyncd doesn't set the hardware clock for >> reasons that one may or may not agree with (I honestly haven't >> researched it in any depth), > It looks like it does iff the RTC is set to

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Pocock writes: > However, at the time when I ran ntpdate, ntp was not running. I had > brought up the network manually due to an interface renaming issue on > the first boot. Maybe when somebody runs ntpdate in a scenario like > that the kernel is not sending the new date/time to the har

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 03:18:04PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > It's not packaged for Debian yet nor do I see any RFP/ITP, but I've > been happily using https://github.com/tehmaze/diagram for a few > years (installable from PyPI via pip so probably easy enough to > package). Its default mode uses

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 27/02/17 20:18, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when >> it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after >> a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again. > >> I came across t

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 11:18 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Daniel Pocock writes: > > > I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when > > it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after > > a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again. >

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Pocock writes: > I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when > it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after > a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again. > I came across the discussion about how the hardware clock is no lo

Bug#856318: ITP: imm -- Execute arbitrary actions for each unread element of RSS/Atom feeds

2017-02-27 Thread Félix Sipma
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: =?utf-8?q?F=C3=A9lix_Sipma?= * Package name: imm Version : 1.1.0.0 Upstream Author : k0ral * URL : https://github.com/k0ral/imm * License : Public domain Programming Lang: Haskell Description : Execute arbitrary

Re: systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:59:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > Can anybody make any suggestions or add anything to the wiki? My old Mac Mini had a crazy clock and ntp was not enough to sanitize it. I fixed it by using adjtimex in addition to ntp. As an example, my clock was off by 2890 parts p

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions

2017-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions"): > [Ian Jackson:] > > Can we not make the updates work for non-Debian-packaged extensions, > > while disabling them for Debian-packaged ones ? > > > > If we did that then there would no need to disa

systemd, ntp, kernel and hwclock

2017-02-27 Thread Daniel Pocock
Hi all, I've observed a system that had a wildly incorrect hardware clock (when it was first unboxed), I ran ntpdate to sync the kernel clock but after a shutdown and startup again it had a wacky time again. I came across the discussion about how the hardware clock is no longer set at shutdown[1

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions

2017-02-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 04:43:29PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Do we know why this is ? Is this an unintended side effect of some > > > other change ? Has someone done this deliberately and if so have they > > > explained what they were trying to achieve ? > > > > > > I can see that the beha

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions

2017-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Andrey Rahmatullin writes ("Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions"): > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 03:14:08PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Do we know why this is ? Is this an unintended side effect of some > > other change ? Has someone done this deliberately and if s

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions

2017-02-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 03:14:08PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > It's not even about updating: the first version of chromium with this > > build-time tweak simply disabled all already installed extensions for me > > so they were not activated when I restarted chromium after that upgrade > > session

Re: Bug#856033: ITP: brailleimg -- produce text images and graphs abusing Braille glyphs

2017-02-27 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-02-25 18:24:33 +0100 (+0100), Adam Borowski wrote: [...] > It looks like no one made a histogram tool using high-resolution > Braille yet, thus I'll add some features (like auto-scaling Y axis > -- doing it manually is tedious, horizontal mode, etc) and package > this part. [...] It's not

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions

2017-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Konstantin Khomoutov writes ("Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions"): > It's not even about updating: the first version of chromium with this > build-time tweak simply disabled all already installed extensions for me > so they were not activated when I restarted chr

Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions [and 1 more messages]

2017-02-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Michael Gilbert writes ("Re: sane chromium default flags - include --enable-remote-extensions [and 1 more messages]"): > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: > > It seems likely to me that this is a bug, not some kind of > > "ideological mistake". > > You basically nailed it, espe

Re: Bug#829076: general: Random freezes but the mouse can still move

2017-02-27 Thread Philip Hands
The Wanderer writes: > On 2017-02-26 at 09:01, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> * John Cuffs tells Lee to "shut the fuck up", and quotes a spam that >> isn't visible (anymore?) in the bug log. > > Just to note: this almost certainly wasn't actually addressing any of > the thread participants, and als