On 2016, സെപ്റ്റംബർ 16 10:02:30 AM IST, Paul Wise wrote:
>The archive doesn't yet produce pdiffs for the DEP-11 Metadata,
>so a bug report against ftp.debian.org is the way to go.
Done.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=837975
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 6:10 AM, Sean Whitton wrote:
> Probably best to file a wishlist bug against apt.
The archive doesn't yet produce pdiffs for the DEP-11 Metadata,
so a bug report against ftp.debian.org is the way to go.
Also, some if it isn't text (icons) so those might need some new mecha
"Jeremy T. Bouse" writes:
> I'll start off by saying I haven't read the whole thread and only
> caught this because of the subject line change.
I direct you to Russ's message in this thread that explains exactly why
“customer” is a misleading term for the relationship being discussed, and:
On 9/15/2016 10:19 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2016-09-15 at 22:03, Ben Finney wrote:
>
>> The Wanderer writes:
>>
>>> On 2016-09-15 at 21:26, Wookey wrote:
>>>
I reckon a lot of us would be happier if you [Russ] (and Abou)
used the term 'users', rather than 'customers'. I know I think
On 2016-09-15 at 22:03, Ben Finney wrote:
> The Wanderer writes:
>
>> On 2016-09-15 at 21:26, Wookey wrote:
>>
>>> I reckon a lot of us would be happier if you [Russ] (and Abou)
>>> used the term 'users', rather than 'customers'. I know I think
>>> that being a customer involves payment.
>>
>>
The Wanderer writes:
> On 2016-09-15 at 21:26, Wookey wrote:
>
> > I reckon a lot of us would be happier if you [Russ] (and Abou) used
> > the term 'users', rather than 'customers'. I know I think that being
> > a customer involves payment.
>
> That was exactly my point: that although many people
On 2016-09-15 at 21:26, Wookey wrote:
> On 2016-09-15 18:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>> Debian is delightfully different. We care about market share of
>> *volunteers*, but we don't have to care (and indeed, I personally
>> don't care at all) about market share of *customers*.
>
> Well put
On 2016-09-15 18:04 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Debian is delightfully different. We care about market share of
> *volunteers*, but we don't have to care (and indeed, I personally don't
> care at all) about market share of *customers*.
Well put, but I reckon a lot of us would be happier if you
The Wanderer writes:
> On 2016-09-15 at 16:17, gregor herrmann wrote:
>> Debian can't lose customers because we have no customers because we're
>> not selling anything.
> This is a terminology difference.
It isn't for me.
For me, this is a very foundational and freeing concept. Debian is not
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 929 (new: 6)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 144 (new: 1)
Total number of packages request
Santiago Vila writes:
> I was the one who asked for these build-depends to become versioned.
> My rationale for that is in policy when it says that "it must be
> possible to build the package when the build-dependencies are met".
> If this is not the case it may be argued that the source packag
Thomas Goirand writes:
> Someone is insisting that I should set the minimum version of
> python-openssl in my packages, just to avoid the bug of pyopenssl. I
> replied that if we were to do so in Debian, the work would be
> exponential, and that this is not what we should do: the bug in
> pyopens
On 2016-09-15 at 16:17, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:58:03 +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
>> We don't care to loose customers because of an issue faced by
>> someone,
>
> Debian can't lose customers because we have no customers because
> we're not selling anything.
This is a
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 06:04:54PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I think it would be simpler and more correct for python-cryptography to
> declare a breaks relationship with python-openssl, e.g. (in the binary
> control
> stanza for python-cryptography):
>
> Breaks: python-openssl (<< FIRST_
Hello Pirate,
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 01:54:27PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> I have noticed DEP-11 Metadata gets downloaded in full every time I run
> an apt-get update? Does it change so often? Can this be changed to
> download only the diffs like other index files?
Probably best to file a wi
On Thursday, September 15, 2016 11:50:33 PM Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Recently, the upload python-cryptography broke pyopenssl, and pyopenssl
> had to be upgraded to support the new python-cryptography (I don't have
> the exact details, but it doesn't mater much here...).
>
> Someo
Hi everyone,
Recently, the upload python-cryptography broke pyopenssl, and pyopenssl
had to be upgraded to support the new python-cryptography (I don't have
the exact details, but it doesn't mater much here...).
Someone is insisting that I should set the minimum version of
python-openssl in my pa
Hi Matthias,
On 10.09.2016 00:48, Matthias Klose wrote:
> While the Debian Release team has some citation about the quality of the
> toolchain on their status page, it is not one of the release criteria
> documented
> by the release team. I'd like to document the status how I do understand it
>
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Severity: wishlist
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:58:03 +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
> In my case, when I get such a report for my package, I start instructing the
> user to gather more information.
Right, me too.
But "general" is not a package but a catchall category where mails
get distributed to thousands of subscrib
Hello all,
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:02:02AM +0200, Balint Reczey wrote:
> Dear People of Debian-Devel,
>
> Current Policy (3.9.8.0) mandates discussion on debian-devel@d.o
> before changing packages to ship static libraries compiled with -fPIC:
>
> ---
> 10.2 Libraries
> ... (paragraph about s
The Wanderer writes:
> I suspect that he feels that closing a bug report without having first
> tried to address it equals pretending that the problem reported in the
> bug report does not exist, and thus, represents an attempt to hide the
> fact that the problem does exist.
Okay. Well, I think
Thanks The Wanderer,
You explained it better that I can ever do! It is a perception problem at the
first plane.
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Cheers,
Abou Al Montacir
On Thu, 2016-09-15 at 13:39 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2016-09-15 at 13:24, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>
>
> > > Abou Al Montacir writes:
>
> >
>
> >
On 2016-09-15 at 13:24, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Abou Al Montacir writes:
>
>> Does improve distribution means hiding issues? I don't think it
>> is.
>
> You keep using this term, but I have no idea what you mean by it.
> What information do you feel like we're hiding?
I suspect that he feels tha
Abou Al Montacir writes:
> Does improve distribution means hiding issues? I don't think it is.
You keep using this term, but I have no idea what you mean by it. What
information do you feel like we're hiding?
Maybe you feel like closing a bug is always wrong unless the problem is
fully resolve
On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 12:51 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Abou Al Montacir writes:
>
> > Because you think people will not be frustrated if they experience a bug
> > and that we prevent them to raise bugs? Hiding reality is always
> > bad?. Look at the original reporter last message. He seems q
Hi Joël,
On Wed, 2016-09-14 at 15:38 +0200, Joël Krähemann wrote:
> Hi
>
> reproducing the critical parts in a unit test would be helpful
>
> Something like in the attachment.
>
> install dependencies:
>
> apt-get install libcunit1-dev
>
> Compile with
> > gcc -g -o mutex_fail_test mutex_fail
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Lev Lamberov
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Version : 0.4.0
Upstream Author : Masashi Sakurai
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* License : GPL-3+
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Description : simpl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Holger Levsen
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Upstream Author : Marek Marczykowski
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Severity: wishlist
Owner: Holger Levsen
* Package name: qubes-gui-daemon
Upstream Author : Joanna Rutkowska
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Qubes OS is a
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* Package name: qubes-gui-common
* Upstream Author : Joanna Rutkowska
Rafal Wojtczuk
Marek Marczykowski
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Owner: Holger Levsen
* Package name: qubes-gui-agent
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Qub
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Marek Marczykowski
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Qubes O
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Holger Levsen
* Package name: qubes-core-agent
Upstream Author : Joanna Rutkowska
Rafal Wojtczuk
* URL : https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-agent-linux.git
* License : GPL2+
Programming Lang: several
D
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Holger Levsen
* Package name: qubes-core-admin-linux
Upstream Author : Marek Marczykowski
* URL : https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin-linux.git
* License : GPL2+
Programming Lang: several
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On Sep 14, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> I agree that merging /usr is a good thing to do. We should default to
> that, and at some point force the merge somehow (via the usrmerge package?
To be fair, I have implemented this as a switch only because I expected
that somebody would have complained about
On Sep 15, Adam Borowski wrote:
> I think it would be worthwhile to split up and move parts of /var as well.
This is out of scope for this thread, so please let's discuss your
proposals at a different time.
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ciao,
Marco
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On 2016-09-15 10:10:23 +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
> That is very similar to the issue I'm experiencing. However I can
> reproduce this 100% when opening a page on linkedIn using epiphany
> browser.
Then I think that you should give strace information + system logs.
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 09:05:50AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 02:01:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:00:46PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > >a) more friendly
> >
> > Please check the facts. The "initial email" which started this
>
> P
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Hi,
I have noticed DEP-11 Metadata gets downloaded in full every time I run
an apt-get update? Does it change so often? Can this be changed to
download only the diffs like other index files?
Get:6 http://debian.sil.at/debian sid/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2,873
kB]
0% [6 Components-amd64 1,579 k
Hi Adam,
On Thu, 2016-09-15 at 04:07 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Even quite experienced people may have a hard time investigating a "system
>
> freeze".
>
>
>
> It just happens that I had two today; the system was working reliably before
>
> with no unexplained crashes[1] at least in kernell
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On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 02:01:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:00:46PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >a) more friendly
>
> Please check the facts. The "initial email" which started this
Please do
s/initial email/first email read by the majority of readers/
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