Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

Felipe Sateler debian.org> writes: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:15:13 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: >> Vincent Lefevre vinc17.net> wrote: >>> Is the Debian dependency system broken? > > [...] > > > > No, but there is no way to *correctly* handle the problem with the > > automatic depency mechanism.

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

Fabian Greffrath writes: > This is often the case when few "enlightened" people tell all the > others what they skould prefer by now. > I have found another opinion by a Gentoo dev that might shed some light > on the topic, or maybe not. > https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2014/02/22/a-few-words-

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

Thomas Goirand writes: > Did you try using the same pristine-tar xz thing but with a different > version of xz-utils, for example the one in Trusty vs the one in Sid? Yup, I do this all the time. -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

Cyril Brulebois writes: > Niels Thykier (2015-06-15): >> To avoid confusing myself further, Russ and Neil, are you both talking >> about the "debian/symbols" files? I thought Russ might have been >> talking about "versioned symbols at DSO level" (e.g. symbol@LOW0 vs >> symbol@LOW1). > I'm pret

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

[ jftr: i'm not involved/related to this thread other than to comment on a few things since i'm using lzip since a while and happen to maintain it in debian; also, i have no interest in any CTTE involvement at all and trust the dpkg maintainers to add lzip eventually when they think it's right to d

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On 06/15/15 22:03, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2014/02/22/a-few-words-on-lzip > -compressor/ i remember this has been discussed on the lzip mailinglist/irc when it popped up and was mainly put down as FUD. a quick search didn't reveal the "debunking" reply that was s

Re: Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

> Also many GNU projects do not release lzip tarballs, but do release bzip > or xz ones and there are very few that exclusively release lzip tarballs. > If that's the equivalent of bazaar being the official GNU VCS that most > of the GNU projects do not use, well This is often the case when few "e

Bug#788872: ITP: ruby-nokogumbo -- Nokogiri interface to the Gumbo HTML5 parser

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Cédric Boutillier" * Package name: ruby-nokogumbo Version : 1.4.2 Upstream Author : Sam Ruby * URL : https://github.com/rubys/nokogumbo/#readme * License : Apache 2 Programming Lang: Ruby Description : Nokogiri i

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:15:13 +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> Is the Debian dependency system broken? > [...] > > No, but there is no way to *correctly* handle the problem with the > automatic depency mechanism. It is possible to use in some manual > kludge, but not a co

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

söndagen den 14 juni 2015 22.38.28 skrev Vincent Lefevre: > Well, there are two things that one wants to avoid: > > 1. Upgrading libgnutls-deb0-28 to a version using libnettle6 without >upgrading the packages that depend on libgnutls-deb0-28 and use >libnettle4. This is the problem I've m

Bug#788869: ITP: mpfit -- Robust non-linear least squares curve fitting for GDL

Package: wnpp Owner: Ole Streicher Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-as...@lists.debian.org,debian-scie...@lists.debian.org * Package name: mpfits Version : 1.82 Upstream Author : Craig Markwardt * URL : http://cow.physics.wisc.edu/

Xen PVUSB - Debian 8

Hi all, I am trying to setup a Debian 8 machine running XEN, which I've installed from the package manager, to use the USB passthrough. It looks like I need to use the module xen-usbfront and xen-usbback, which I can't find in the /lib/modules/(my kern)/* Are there ways to get around this ? Th

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is the Debian dependency system broken? [...] No, but there is no way to *correctly* handle the problem with the automatic depency mechanism. It is possible to use in some manual kludge, but not a correct one. libgnutls-deb0-28 3.3.15-5 does not break or conflict with lib

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

Vincent Lefevre wrote: [...] >(Bug 788710 shouldn't have been closed, but changed to something >like what bug 788735 says.) [...] No, it should not have been filed, since the same bug had been filed 5 times already. cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His othe

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On 06/15/2015 11:15 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 01:08:29AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Therefore, I'm tempted to raise this to the technical committee (putting >> their list as Cc). Does anyone see a reason why I am mistaking here? > > Well, both bugs are over 5 years

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015, at 17:26, Russ Allbery wrote: > Simon McVittie writes: > > > This is a recurring (anti-)pattern: > > > * an ABI-stable, high-level library, say libhigh0, links to a > > lower-level library, say liblow0 > > * we have an ABI transition from liblow0 to liblow1 > > * liblow0

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On Monday, June 15, 2015 6:04:46 AM EEST, Guillem Jover wrote: So the comparison does not seem entirely fair. And it seems to me to be a matter of tradeoffs? Since both lzip and xz are implementations of same LZMA algorithm, it seems lzip is just parametrized different. For some usecases, like

Bug#788836: ITP: wmsun -- Dockable WindowMaker SunRise/SunSet App

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Doug Torrance * Package name: wmsun Version : 1.04 Upstream Author : Window Maker Developers Team * URL : http://windowmaker.org/dockapps/?name=wmsun * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Dockable Wi

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On Jun 15, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I'm not at a stage where I want to involve the CTTE right now. I still > would prefer to gather opinions and see where it goes. My opinion is that you have not proved either that lz is widely used or that it is "better" than xz. -- ciao, Marco pgpi3Fsp9hyjf

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:07:18 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/14/2015 04:08 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:08:24 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >>> And by the way, xz wouldn't be usable with pristine-tar for the same >>> reason. >> >> Ehm. pristine-xz(1) would beg to di

Re: Is the Debian dependency system broken? (wget vs libgnutls-deb0-28)

Niels Thykier (2015-06-15): > On 2015-06-15 08:04, Neil Williams wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:26:26 -0700 > > Russ Allbery wrote: > > > >> Simon McVittie writes: > >> > >>> This is a recurring (anti-)pattern: > >> > >>> * an ABI-stable, high-level library, say libhigh0, links to a > >>>

Bug#788826: ITP: idlastro -- Low-level astronomy software for GDL

Package: wnpp Owner: Ole Streicher Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-as...@lists.debian.org,753...@bugs.debian.org,sara...@igf.fuw.edu.pl * Package name: idlastro Version : 2014.11.10 Upstream Author : Wayne Landsman * URL : http://

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

> "Aron" == Aron Xu writes: Aron> I don't hold a view on whether we want lz support in dpkg/dak, Aron> but it could be a pity if we really involve CTTE for such an Aron> issue. To me, it's sorta abusing the escalation process if Aron> every individual developer raise an issue

Bug#788817: ITP: fcm -- Flexible Configuration Manager

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: fcm Version : 2015.5.0 Upstream Author : UK Met Office * URL : http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/collaboration/fcm * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: Perl Description : Flexi

Bug#788814: ITP: cylc -- Workflow scheduler for meteorology

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: cylc Version : 6.4.1 Upstream Author : Hilary Oliver, * URL : http://cylc.github.io/cylc * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: Python Description : Workflow scheduler for meteorol

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 01:08:29AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Therefore, I'm tempted to raise this to the technical committee (putting > their list as Cc). Does anyone see a reason why I am mistaking here? Well, both bugs are over 5 years old. It would be probably wise to have a more modern di

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 06/14/2015 05:10 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Thomas Goirand wrote: >>> Therefore, I'm tempted to raise this to the technical committee >>> (putting their list as Cc). Does anyone see a reason why I am >>> mistaking he

Bug#788810: ITP: open2300 -- Reads data from a Lacrosse Weather Station

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Fladischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: open2300 Version : 1.10 Upstream Author : Kenneth Lavrsen * URL : http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Open2300/WebHome * License : GP

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On 06/14/2015 05:10 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2015, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Therefore, I'm tempted to raise this to the technical committee >> (putting their list as Cc). Does anyone see a reason why I am >> mistaking here? > > Does a patch exist which can enable lz for orig.tar?

Re: Bug#788794: ITP: python-suds-jurko -- lightweight SOAP client (Jurko's fork)

On 06/15/2015 08:55 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Thomas Goirand > > * Package name: python-suds-jurko > Version : 0.6 > Upstream Author : Jurko Gospodnetic > * URL : https://bitbucket.org/jurko/suds > * License : LGPL

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On 06/15/2015 05:04 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > In addition lzip seems to be > substantially slower (at least) when compressing compared to xz using the > same preset levels. I understand that some may care about it, but as for me, I couldn't care less about the time taken for compressing. What I n

Re: Adding support for LZIP to dpkg, using that instead of xz, archive wide

On 06/14/2015 04:08 PM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:08:24 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> And by the way, xz wouldn't be usable with pristine-tar for the same >> reason. > > Ehm. pristine-xz(1) would beg to disagree. > > In the multimedia team, we use it for over 40 packages