Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Hideki Yamane wrote: > I cannot see any messages with just invoke journalctl, but can see it > with sudo. Probably it's intended behavior since /var/log/dmesg is same. Are you in group adm, or group systemd-journal? - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sun, 10 May 2015 00:56:43 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > And I wish it would keep /var/log/dmesg (and its rotation). That thing is > really useful for user support when dealing with kernel and boot issues. Is it enough to ask users to exec "sudo journalctl"? -- Regards, Hidek

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2015-05-09 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 10.05.2015, 10:47 +0800 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: > > El Dissabte, 9 de maig de 2015, a les 09:23:26, Mechtilde va escriure: > >> Why can't you use people.debian.org for this? > > It's not an option for a non develo

Q: any reason for debian-policy non-i18n-ed?

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, Why debian-policy has not been gettexted? Just a curious :) -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org http://wiki.debian.org/HidekiYamane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lis

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 09 May 2015, Josh Triplett wrote: > The on-disk persistent journal (/var/log/journal) is disabled because at > the moment, Debian systems use syslog by default (via rsyslog), and > enabling the persistent journal would result in two copies of log > messages. > > Since the journal is capabl

Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, On Tue, 05 May 2015 20:45:09 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > I would like to re-evaluate what we change by default for Stretch, that > is the list of packages with priorities required, important and > standard. In general my plan involves installing less, taking into > consideration that req

Heads up: Upcoming dpkg-buildpackage -j precedence change

2015-05-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! “Recently” when adding support for «-jauto» to dpkg-buildpackage, I noticed that the semantics for the -j option were quite unorthodox. The value from the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS paralle= option takes precedence and overrides any explicit value passed on the commend-line via -j, (when -j should be o

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2015-05-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:06 AM, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: > El Dissabte, 9 de maig de 2015, a les 09:23:26, Mechtilde va escriure: >> Why can't you use people.debian.org for this? > It's not an option for a non developer member. :-( If you are a member of Debian, you have access to people

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 09, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > significant (and it will spread to other places, e.g., backups). No > matter how journald will be integrated more tightly in Debian, can we > haz a saner default? I agree: free disk space may not be "free" even when nothing else uses it, e.g. when then file

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sat, 9 May 2015 10:41:17 -0700 Josh Triplett wrote: > The in-memory non-persistent journal (/run/log/journal) is enabled; if > you run journalctl you can see the logs from the current boot. I cannot see any messages with just invoke journalctl, but can see it with sudo. Probably it's intende

Allowing both cross building and using an alternative compiler

2015-05-09 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Please followup on debian-devel (M-F-T set). ] Hi! There are currently two goals people are pursuing that seemed to initially conflict with each other: But they can be made to co

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Cameron Norman
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > Marvin Renich wrote: >> * Martin Pitt [150509 05:27]: >> > TBH, hotpluggable USB network adapters which change all the time sound >> > like a corner case in a server world where you have hand-written >> > config files referring to interface n

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Marvin Renich
* Josh Triplett [150509 17:37]: > Marvin Renich wrote: > > I disagree that stable interface names do not matter for USB adaptors > > for consumer laptops. I have owned two laptops where the on-board WiFi > > adaptor was too new to have reliable Linux drivers until 6-12 months > > after I purchase

Bug#784873: ITP: r-bioc-annotate -- BioConductor annotation for microarrays

2015-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-bioc-annotate Version : 1.46.0 Upstream Author : Bioconductor Package Maintainer * URL : http://bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/annotate.html * License : Artistic-2.0 Progr

Bug#784863: ITP: kmer-tools -- suite of tools for DNA sequence analysis

2015-05-09 Thread Afif Elghraoui
[Forwarding because I inadvertently left out the Debbugs-Cc header when originally submitting this] Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Med Team * Package name: kmer-tools Version : 20141114+1994 Upstream Author : Brian Walenz * URL : http://kmer.sour

Bug#784872: ITP: r-cran-futile.options -- GNU R futile options management

2015-05-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-futile.options Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Brian Lee Yung Rowe * URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/futile.options/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: R Descriptio

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Marvin Renich wrote: > * Martin Pitt [150509 05:27]: > > TBH, hotpluggable USB network adapters which change all the time sound > > like a corner case in a server world where you have hand-written > > config files referring to interface names. They are of course common > > on the client side, but

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Marvin Renich
* Martin Pitt [150509 05:27]: > TBH, hotpluggable USB network adapters which change all the time sound > like a corner case in a server world where you have hand-written > config files referring to interface names. They are of course common > on the client side, but there stable interface names do

Bug#784866: ITP: liblog-fast-perl -- fast and flexible logger

2015-05-09 Thread Christopher Hoskin
Package: wnpp Owner: Christopher Hoskin Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: liblog-fast-perl Version : 1.06 Upstream Author : Alex Efros * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Log-Fast * License

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 10:41:17AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: > The on-disk persistent journal (/var/log/journal) is disabled because at > the moment, Debian systems use syslog by default (via rsyslog), and > enabling the persistent journal would result in two copies of log > messages. I've enabl

Re: Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Josh Triplett
Hideki Yamane wrote: > We've switched to systemd and I've noticed that journald feature is > not enabled. I can easily do it as README.Debian suggested, but wonder > why logging by journald is not enabled by default. > > Is there any reason? (just a curious) The in-memory non-persistent journal (/

Q: why binary-log by systemd-journald is not enabled by default?

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, We've switched to systemd and I've noticed that journald feature is not enabled. I can easily do it as README.Debian suggested, but wonder why logging by journald is not enabled by default. Is there any reason? (just a curious) -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.or.jp/org

Bug#784856: ITP: duperemove -- Tools for deduping file systems

2015-05-09 Thread Felix Zielcke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Felix Zielcke * Package name: duperemove Version : 0.09.3 Upstream Author : Mark Fasheh * URL : https://github.com/markfasheh/duperemove * License : GPL 2, 2 Clause BSD Programming Lang: C Description : Tools for

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2015-05-09 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
El Dissabte, 9 de maig de 2015, a les 09:23:26, Mechtilde va escriure: > Hello > > Am 05.05.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Mike Hommey: > > On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 02:22:04PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > >> Hello world, > >> > >> Now with wheezy happy and out the door, we should finally tackle a long > >

Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-09 Thread Zack Weinberg
I'd like to provide a data point. On servers that I maintain, this is the complete list of manually-installed packages, excluding packages related to what the server actually _does_ -- that is, this, and nothing else, are what I consider vital to have available on a generic server that no one logs

Bug#784848: ITP: libcache-bdb-perl -- object caching wrapper around BerkeleyDB

2015-05-09 Thread Christopher Hoskin
Package: wnpp Owner: Christopher Hoskin Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libcache-bdb-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Josh Rotenberg * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Cache-BDB * Licen

Re: Packages to install be default for Stretch

2015-05-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Wed, 6 May 2015 14:17:58 +0800 Paul Wise wrote: > it would be strange to not have a viewer for that documentation on > every system. > > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.4 Probably minimal container (and embedded) systems don't need to have docs and viewers, IMO. De

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Hey Paul, Paul Wise [2015-05-09 16:15 +0800]: > Is there a tool to list interfaces based on their characteristics? > Right now at $work our initial setup code does glob eth* in > /sys/class/net in order to setup a bond interface using all NICs, so > network works no matter which NIC one plugs a ca

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Bjørn Mork [2015-05-08 16:13 +0200]: > PCI buses can be and are hotplugged, similar to network devices. Yes, that's certainly a valid point. It's not unanimously clear how you define the "identity" of an interface, whether it's more like "by location" or "by MAC address". There are pros and cons f

Bug#784825: ITP: golang-osext -- Extensions to the Go "os" package

2015-05-09 Thread Tim Potter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Potter * Package name: golang-osext Version : 0.0~git20150409 Upstream Author : Daniel Theophanes * URL : https://github.com/kardianos/osext * License : BSD-3-Clause Programming Lang: Go Description : Extensio

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread Paul Wise
Is there a tool to list interfaces based on their characteristics? Right now at $work our initial setup code does glob eth* in /sys/class/net in order to setup a bond interface using all NICs, so network works no matter which NIC one plugs a cable into. It sounds like this proposal would break that

Bug#784818: ITP: golang-codegangsta-cli -- A small package for building command line apps in Go

2015-05-09 Thread Tim Potter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Potter * Package name: golang-codegangsta-cli Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Jeremy Saenz * URL : https://github.com/codegangsta/cli * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go Description : Small package for buil

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

2015-05-09 Thread peter green
The main downside is that by nature the device names are not familiar to current admins yet. For BIOS provided names you get e. g. ens0, for PCI slot names enp1s1 (ethernet) or wlp3s0 (wlan). But that's a necessary price to pay (biosdevname names look similar). The stability of these names appea

Re: Developer repositories for Debian

2015-05-09 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Am 05.05.2015 um 23:45 schrieb Mike Hommey: > On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 02:22:04PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> Hello world, >> >> Now with wheezy happy and out the door, we should finally tackle a long >> open issue. Developer repositories (AKA PPA) for Debian. > > Now with jessie happy an

Bug#784817: ITP: golang-airbrake-go -- Go library to report exceptions and errors to the Airbrake service

2015-05-09 Thread Tim Potter
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Potter * Package name: golang-airbrake-go Version : 0.0~git20150109 Upstream Author : Tobias Lütke * URL : https://github.com/tobi/airbrake-go * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go Description : Go library to r