Bug#767874: RFH: ejabberd -- distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server written in Erlang

2014-11-02 Thread Philipp Huebner
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the ejabberd package set. It is team maintained via gitolite and a jabber MUC (Multi-User Chat) at ejabb...@chat.deb.at and in constant need of working power. You neither need to understand Erlang nor be a Debian Developer in or

Re: dgit and git-dpm

2014-11-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson [141030 13:42]: > Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: dgit and git-dpm"): > > – I’d prefer users of even dgit, no matter how good it may be, to > > not rely on that. > > Again, why ? To do an NMU, one has to generate a debdiff anyway to post it to the bug report (as the rules for NMUs mand

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Josh Triplett writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> I think it's worth considering whether we should just dump the Lintian >> checks for arch-independent files in /usr/lib, and make a corresponding >> change to Policy that says that packages are free to put >> arch-independent files there. > See bug

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Russ Allbery wrote: > I think it's worth considering whether we should just dump the Lintian > checks for arch-independent files in /usr/lib, and make a corresponding > change to Policy that says that packages are free to put > arch-independent files there. See bug 741304; that change occurred in

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
* Russ Allbery [141102 22:12]: > Sune Vuorela writes: > > > All the cmake files in the list, on the other hand, should be shippable > > in /usr/lib/ > > > I'm not sure about all the lintian overrides in there. Maybe a fix needs > > to be applied in lintian for arch specific overrides ? > > I t

RE: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Saqman2060
Good catch. -Original Message- From: "Jakub Wilk" Sent: ‎11/‎2/‎2014 12:33 PM To: "debian-devel@lists.debian.org" Subject: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share I found a number of arch!=all packages shipping /usr/share files that vary with architecture in a way indicating an FHS violatio

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Sune Vuorela , 2014-11-02, 21:02: I'm not sure about all the lintian overrides in there. Maybe a fix needs to be applied in lintian for arch specific overrides ? You can use wildcards in Lintian overrides. For example, instead of emacs24-bin-common binary: setgid-binary usr/lib/emacs/24.4/x

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 03:11:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > But the broader point is that if we stopped requiring this distinction, > you could unwind those hacks as well. My guess is that would make > maintaining the packages easier and would be preferrable from your > perspective, altho

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Rene Engelhard writes: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 01:09:02PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> files there. No one is ever going to bother to move the files in, say, q>> LibreOffice into /usr/share, since the theoretical gain totally isn't >> worth the effort in maintaining the package. > Actually I

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 01:09:02PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > files there. No one is ever going to bother to move the files in, say, > LibreOffice into /usr/share, since the theoretical gain totally isn't > worth the effort in maintaining the package. Actually I have various hacks in Libre

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On 02/11/14 18:42, Andreas Barth wrote: > (I however also don't think that this is pretty bad, but of course it > is a FHS violation, and should be fixed.) For Multi-Arch: foreign or non-Multi-Arch packages, I don't personally think this should be considered priority > normal, or (unless it's utte

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Sune Vuorela writes: > All the cmake files in the list, on the other hand, should be shippable > in /usr/lib/ > I'm not sure about all the lintian overrides in there. Maybe a fix needs > to be applied in lintian for arch specific overrides ? I think it's worth considering whether we should just

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 02, Russ Allbery wrote: > So... we shouldn't gratuitously break the distinction, but it does make me > question how much effort we should put into fixing issues like this. We Agreed. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Russ Allbery
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Nov 02, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> Low-priority sounds about right, but there’s still the supposed >> case of /usr/share sharing across architectures via NFS. > So much hypothetical that I am quite sure that nobody does this. Yeah, at the point where you

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-11-02, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 02 novembre 2014 à 10:33 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : >> This is /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.systemd1.service, >> which is the sole location for declaring services to dbus (i.e., there is no >> corresponding path /usr/li

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 02, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Low-priority sounds about right, but there’s still the supposed > case of /usr/share sharing across architectures via NFS. So much hypothetical that I am quite sure that nobody does this. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: > it in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib/$arch. But this also seems like a > low-priority FHS issue to me. Is there a practical reason that we should Low-priority sounds about right, but there’s still the supposed case of /usr/share sharing across architect

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 02 novembre 2014 à 10:33 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : > This is /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.systemd1.service, > which is the sole location for declaring services to dbus (i.e., there is no > corresponding path /usr/lib/dbus-1/system-services). The file varies b

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Andreas Barth
* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [141102 19:39]: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 06:33:15PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > I found a number of arch!=all packages shipping /usr/share files that vary > > with architecture in a way indicating an FHS violation. > > > Steve Langasek > >systemd-shim >

Re: Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 06:33:15PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > I found a number of arch!=all packages shipping /usr/share files that vary > with architecture in a way indicating an FHS violation. > Steve Langasek >systemd-shim This is /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.systemd1

Arch-dependent files in /usr/share

2014-11-02 Thread Jakub Wilk
I found a number of arch!=all packages shipping /usr/share files that vary with architecture in a way indicating an FHS violation. DD-list of the affect binary packages is attached, and diff between i386 and s390x is here: https://people.debian.org/~jwilk/qa/20141101-usr-share.diff Please fix

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-11-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 novembre 2014 12:37 +0100, Ralf Jung  : >> However, it should be possible to create a tool which helps novice users >> in managing their firewall, and such a tool could be installed by >> default on at least a Desktop installation. If we go down that route, >> and if said tool is easy enough

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-11-02 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi, >>> - Debian should ship a default set of firewall rules. Are we the only >>> distro which doesn't do this? I mean a basic ruleset which drops >>> incoming, accepts outgoing and accepts related,establised is so easy to >>> do... and it would help for all those cases where services are started

Re: Bug#752450: ftp.debian.org: please consider to strongly tighten the validity period of Release files

2014-11-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Nov 01, 2014 at 07:46:42PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 05:52:07PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > - Debian should ship a default set of firewall rules. Are we the only > > distro which doesn't do this? I mean a basic ruleset which drops > > incoming, acce