Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:37:27PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/17/2014 04:34 AM, Bas Wijnen wrote: > > So debconf needs to read configuration files, but it doesn't know how to > > parse them. So it does the only thing it can: it uses its cache. Which > > means that each and every package

Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > maintenance of them, like for example moving a directive from one > section to another (when this happens upstream). Sounds like you want one of these: Config::Model based config file upgrades: https://wiki.debian.org/PackageConfigUpgrad

Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 10/17/2014 04:34 AM, Bas Wijnen wrote: > So debconf needs to read configuration files, but it doesn't know how to > parse them. So it does the only thing it can: it uses its cache. Which > means that each and every package that uses debconf must make sure that > they read the configuration fil

Bug#765656: ITP: libmarc-transform-perl -- Perl module to transform a MARC record with a yaml configuration file

2014-10-16 Thread Robin Sheat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robin Sheat * Package name: libmarc-transform-perl Version : 0.003005 Upstream Author : Stéphane Delaune * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/MARC-Transform * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Descr

Work-needing packages report for Oct 17, 2014

2014-10-16 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 611 (new: 3) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 141 (new: 3) Total number of packages request

Bug#765646: ITP: libconvert-basen-perl -- encoding and decoding of base{2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64} strings

2014-10-16 Thread Robin Sheat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robin Sheat * Package name: libconvert-basen-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Dan Kogai * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Convert-BaseN * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description :

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-16 Thread Cameron Norman
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:02 AM, Martin Read wrote: > On 15/10/14 23:01, Adam Borowski wrote: >> >> shim doesn't appear to work, at least for me. To get basic functionality >> like shutdown from GUI, suspend or mounting USB drives, I needed to >> downgrade the whole Utopia stack to their last wor

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Bas, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:27:37PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > Ok. Is it supposed to be possible to install more than one blend > simultaneously? Is that technically prevented with Conflicts? Not at all. I have not tested but I would bet that you can install all existing metapackages of

Re: debconf as a registry

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
As I wrote in the blend thread, reading through bug #311188 raised some new questions for me about this one. I will start by explaining the original problem again; it seemed to me that it wasn't understood by everyone. Then I'll add some new thoughts based on that bug. Finally, I present some co

Migration from cron to cron-daemon?

2014-10-16 Thread Stephan Seitz
Hi! I sent the attached message to debian-release, but I was told to ask in debian-devel. So here is the mail. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/keys.html | --- Begin Message 

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2014-10-16 at 20:36 +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 05:35:09PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > > mormegil@cocytus:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00dontbeanidiot > > Aptitude::ProblemResolver { > > SolutionCost "priority, removals, canceled-actions"; > > } > > That looks very use

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 05:35:09PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > mormegil@cocytus:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00dontbeanidiot > Aptitude::ProblemResolver { > SolutionCost "priority, removals, canceled-actions"; > } That looks very useful, thanks! Bas signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Bas Wijnen
Hello, On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:47:19AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Would this use case also be a reason for creating a personal blend? Or > > even an official one? > > Jonas has answered this question. I'd like to add that I'm no fan of > "personal" things since you spoil the idea of for

Bug#765629: RFA: adns -- Asynchronous-capable DNS client library and utilities

2014-10-16 Thread Robert Edmonds
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi, I request an adopter for the adns package. The package description is: adns is a resolver library for C (and C++) programs. In contrast with the existing interfaces, gethostbyname et al and libresolv, it can be used in an asynchronous, non-blocking manner. M

Re: Determining, ad hoc, whether someone is a DD

2014-10-16 Thread Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo
2014-10-15 15:02 Ian Jackson: Many of our lookup interfaces don't give out a clear indication of the status of the person you are looking up. Eg db.debian.org contains DMs and DDs and the public lookup doesn't distinguish. www.debian.org/devel/people lists maintainers, DMs and DDs without distin

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Read
On 16/10/14 12:20, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Apitude, too, *really* likes to choose 500 deletions rather than upgrading even a single package to a version with slightly-lower priority (as defined in /etc/apt/pref*), but at least you can tell it to try harder. :-/ I got sick of "remove half the pl

Bug#765603: ITP: r-bioc-s4vectors -- BioConductor S4 implementation of vectors and lists

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-bioc-s4vectors Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Bioconductor Package Maintainer * URL : http://bioconductor.org/packages/release/bioc/html/S4Vectors.html * License : Artistic-2.0 Prog

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-16 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 16, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > | If one of the members of the tech ctte considers that we should > > | either overwrite the udev-maintainer or move printf to /bin, we > The coreutils maintainer may still decide to do just that. > That’s what would help the most. In a few years, when /{bi

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Urlichs
[ answered on -user only ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141016125024.gc17...@smurf.noris.de

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-16 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:29:11AM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > lee: > > I'm sure we could find quite a few supporters for having a GR amongst > > the users (here). > > We don't do a GR among our users. We do that among Debian > members/maintainers/developers/take-your-pick. > > Of t

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-10-16 10:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: The mails to the @buildd addresses are of course private to those behind the list, so the peanut gallery on -devel can't see what tg wrote nor judge for ourselves whether it was whiny or not, but characterising it as such here is not helpful. TG's ma

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-10-16 10:10, Andreas Barth wrote: Wrong again, I dist-upgraded the chroots and gave back the package. But as before, facts are difficult. FWIW, you did not update neither the d-d nor the buildd.d.o thread about that. Which means that the other people think that it's still open. Kind

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > | If one of the members of the tech ctte considers that we should > | either overwrite the udev-maintainer or move printf to /bin, we The coreutils maintainer may still decide to do just that. That’s what would help the most. bye, //mirabilos -- Yes,

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Thorsten Glaser writes ("Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)"): > I’d rather prefer to see this resolved by getting #428189 fixed. Clearly you would, but #428189 (moving coreutils printf to /bin) was also implicitly rejected by the TC in its decision on #539158. The question of w

Re: Bug#765512: general: distrust old crypto algos and protocols perdefault

2014-10-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Lars Wirzenius writes ("Re: Bug#765512: general: distrust old crypto algos and protocols perdefault"): > Merely defending one's opinions is a recipe for long threads. A good, > productive discussion about Debian development requires understanding > other people's arguments, evaluating one's own po

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Florian Lohoff: > is it intentional that gnome is removed when systemd is replaced by > sysvinit-core? Please always retry this kind of thing with aptitude, and try to let it choose alternate resolutions to the dependency chains. Apitude, too, *really* likes to choose 500 deletions rather t

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 12:47:41PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > Hi, > > >but it seems there is some dependency in jessie which makes gnome > >unavailable > >without systemd. > > It is there because upstream requires it. There is no GNOME without systemd. > This is not specific to Debian. *örg

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
On 16/10/14 12:47, Dominik George wrote: > Hi, > >> but it seems there is some dependency in jessie which makes gnome >> unavailable >> without systemd. > > It is there because upstream requires it. There is no GNOME without systemd. > This is not specific to Debian. No, that's wrong. $ sudo a

Re: apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Dominik George
Hi, >but it seems there is some dependency in jessie which makes gnome >unavailable >without systemd. It is there because upstream requires it. There is no GNOME without systemd. This is not specific to Debian. -nik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Read
On 15/10/14 23:01, Adam Borowski wrote: shim doesn't appear to work, at least for me. To get basic functionality like shutdown from GUI, suspend or mounting USB drives, I needed to downgrade the whole Utopia stack to their last working versions. Out of interest, what's the bug number? -- To

apt-get install sysvinit-core removes gnome?

2014-10-16 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, is it intentional that gnome is removed when systemd is replaced by sysvinit-core? an apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils on a fresh jessie removed most of the gnome desktop. I dont want systemd and i'd like to remove as much of the blob as possible. I thought systemd-sh

Re: Bug#765512: marked as done (general: distrust old crypto algos and protocols perdefault)

2014-10-16 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Christoph, thanks for closing this bug again! :-) cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Any news about Blends in tasks selection (Was: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 2 release)

2014-10-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Tille (2014-10-16 08:47:19) > On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 07:49:32PM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: >> On occasion, I've needed a single-use system; something that boots up >> into an application and that shuts down when that application exits. >> (Having the full power of Debian in the bac

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-16 Thread Russell Stuart
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 23:36 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Actually, the problem is indeed in policy. In its resolution of > #539158 the TC decided unanimously (but unfortunately slightly > implicitly) that printf ought to be provided by our /bin/sh. > > Unfortunately the policy has not been properly

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > But it’s now resolved, thanks Philipp! > > > > Wrong again, I dist-upgraded the chroots and gave back the package. > > But as before, facts are difficult. > > Likewise, you could have pointed this out without being quite so condecending. Uhm ye

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:10:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > You didn't ask a wider audience, you whined to one, and that on > something totally unrelated to the thing you really wanted. The mails to the @buildd addresses are of course private to those behind the list, so the peanut gallery on

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Andreas Barth
* Thorsten Glaser (t.gla...@tarent.de) [141016 09:39]: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Buildd administration — @buildd.debian.org > > lists a couple of people. And also a working mail address. Contacting > > people via a role account is always prefered. > > Yeah, that’s whom I

Re: Bug#765512: general: distrust old crypto algos and protocols perdefault

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > I see it a bit differently: > RC4 is broken. Full stop. > Therefore new versions clients and servers should per default not > use/enable/accept it. Sorry, but I *have* to nitpick here. RC4 as used by SSL is mostly broken. (A server could res

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: > Actually, the problem is indeed in policy. In its resolution of > #539158 the TC decided unanimously (but unfortunately slightly > implicitly) that printf ought to be provided by our /bin/sh. Somewhat. > As the maintainer of a minority shell, Thorsten h

Bug#765557: ITP: jenkins-antisamy-markup-formatter-plugin -- OWASP Markup Formatter Plugin for Jenkins

2014-10-16 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emmanuel Bourg * Package name: jenkins-antisamy-markup-formatter-plugin Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Kohsuke Kawaguchi * URL : https://github.com/jenkinsci/antisamy-markup-formatter-plugin * License : MIT Programmin

Re: Built-Using, again…

2014-10-16 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Andreas Barth wrote: > Buildd administration — @buildd.debian.org > lists a couple of people. And also a working mail address. Contacting > people via a role account is always prefered. Yeah, that’s whom I contacted first, on Friday. It was just not getting any sort of respo