Re: 2 months and no upload for pkg

2014-08-12 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Amir Taaki (gen...@riseup.net): > However, I think maybe this might have slipped through the cracks and > has been missed. Any information would be much appreciated. > The responsible team (Debian Bitcoin Team) seems to be dead judging from > their mailing list. Hello, That seems to be

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 août 2014 00:37 -0007, Cameron Norman  : > Probably relevant to Michael's inquiry: can we just get a few > screenshots? It would be a lot easier to compare. http://imgur.com/CzZblwH http://imgur.com/z42IMOD http://imgur.com/8hnR0NS Only configuration done is settings font DPI (+ zoom to 15

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 août 2014 02:06 +0200, Michael Biebl  : >>> If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions >>> posted by Ted, none of the UI elements besides text are scaled, no >>> scaled cursor, no scaled icons, no scaled window decorations, etc. >> >> As I am using awesome, windo

2 months and no upload for pkg

2014-08-12 Thread Amir Taaki
Hi! A Debian developer Jonas Smedegard has worked with me to package my software since I first opened an ITP in April 2012. Finally we finish to resolve all the outstanding issues after some months, and I was very happy to see it pushed ready to be uploaded on 17 June. https://ftp-master.debian.o

JIFFIES in userspace

2014-08-12 Thread Joël Krähemann
Hi I develop an audio sequencer: http://ags.sf.net Now, what values would you recommend as JIFFIEs for the following threads: * AgsAudioLoop * AgsTaskThread * AgsGuiThread * AgsDevoutThread -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Cameron Norman
El mar, 12 de ago 2014 a las 5:06 , Michael Biebl escribió: Am 13.08.2014 01:59, schrieb Vincent Bernat: ❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl : I can not confirm your findings. If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions posted by Ted, none of the UI el

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Neal
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:45:37 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > I think you are confusing a few things. Sam was, as far as i know, > never active in FFmpeg. He was (and i think still is) a big figure > in VLC development. I was only speaking of him as maintainer of the ffmpeg packages in debian. I ha

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 01:44:43AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions > posted by Ted, none of the UI elements besides text are scaled, no > scaled cursor, no scaled icons, no scaled window decorations, etc. That's a fair comment

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 12/08/14 15:44, Theodore Ts'o wrote: >>> So that's my experience with Xfce and HiDPI displays; at least for >>> this hacker, it was orders of magnitude less painful than dealing with >>> GNOME. :-) >> >> I would appreciate if you went into a little detail on what pain you had >> with GNOME fo

Bug#757980: ITP: cryptography -- cryptography is a package which provides cryptographic recipes and primitives to Python developers.

2014-08-12 Thread Brian May
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Brian May * Package name: cryptography Version : 0.5.3 Upstream Author : Various * URL : https://cryptography.io/en/latest/ * License : Apache License Programming Lang: Python Description : cryptography is a packa

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Kieran Kunhya
> Also ive offered my resignation in the past. > I do still offer to resign from the FFmpeg leader position, if it > resolves this split between FFmpeg and Libav and make everyone work > together again. I never understood why people who once where friends > became mutually so hostile The big eleph

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Octavio Alvarez writes: > On 09/08/14 04:30, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> Quoting envite (2014-08-09 10:43:25) >>> XFCE (does not mount my USB disks) >> Did you perhaps suppress recommends? > Should this really be a Recommends? Yes. I have no need for and no desire for automatic USB disk mountin

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 13.08.2014 01:59, schrieb Vincent Bernat: > ❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl : >> I can not confirm your findings. >> >> If you increase the DPI settings under XFCE following the instructions >> posted by Ted, none of the UI elements besides text are scaled, no >> scaled cursor, no sc

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 août 2014 01:44 +0200, Michael Biebl  : >>> Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support >>> HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up, >>> otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit. >>> >>> XFCE does not deal with that problem at all.

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Octavio Alvarez
On 09/08/14 04:30, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi envite, > > Thanks for your input. > > Quoting envite (2014-08-09 10:43:25) >> XFCE (does not mount my USB disks) > > Did you perhaps suppress recommends? Should this really be a Recommends? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@li

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 13.08.2014 01:19, schrieb Vincent Bernat: > ❦ 13 août 2014 00:25 +0200, Michael Biebl : >> Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support >> HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up, >> otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit. >> >> XFC

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 01:27:38PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > First, w-b has to recognize that arch:all packages need to be built. > And they need to be scheduled on a buildd which builds the arch:all > packages (and only the arch:all packages?). > > For the latter I assume sbuild would need

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 août 2014 00:25 +0200, Michael Biebl  : >> Joey, >> >> With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using >> Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and >> setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of what I >> needed by setting Custom D

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On 12 August 2014 23:25, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Scaling fonts alone is not sufficient if you want to properly support > HiDPI displays. You really want all UI elements to be scaling up, > otherwise icons etc get tiny and very hard to hit. > > XFCE does not deal with that problem at all. > > --

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:33:03PM -0007, Cameron Norman wrote: > >With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using > >Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and > >setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of what I > >needed by setting Cust

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Niedermayer
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:45:37PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:44:35 -0500 > Joe Neal wrote: > > > > When this happened I scoured the net, including mailing lists from both > > projects to try and figure out what had happened. The overwhelming > > evidence based on mail

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 12.08.2014 21:11, schrieb Theodore Ts'o: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: >> See my 1st message to this thread. > > Joey, > > With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using > Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and > sett

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Cameron Norman
El mar, 12 de ago 2014 a las 12:11 , Theodore Ts'o escribió: On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: See my 1st message to this thread. Joey, With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, an

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Michael Niedermayer
Hi On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 05:13:17PM +0200, Attila Kinali wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:24 -0500 > Joe Neal wrote: > > > On both servers and desktops, I've been a Debian user since Sarge. I > > use Debian not only because of its strong technical merits, but because > > of the stro

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 10:44:35 -0500 Joe Neal wrote: > When this happened I scoured the net, including mailing lists from both > projects to try and figure out what had happened. The overwhelming > evidence based on mailing list posts, blog posts, forum discussions and > pretty much everywhere el

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:04:32 -0400 compn wrote: > at least 6+ devels refuse to work with each other , thats only a > quick estimation, i havent polled everyone lately. ffmpeg and libav devs > dont even TALK to each other. theres a couple devs who frequent both > irc/lists, most do not. This is

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:26:18PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > See my 1st message to this thread. Joey, With respect to your question re HiDPI displays and Xfce, I'm using Xfce4 from Debian Testing on a Lenovo T540p with 3k screen, and setting things up was fairly straight forward. I got most of w

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread compn
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:51:40 +0200 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, that would be nice. The FFmpeg/Libav split is mostly a > > political/social issue though: it seems some (not all) members from > > each side just can't deal with some (not all) members from the other > > side. > > > > How

Bug#757955: ITP: libtest-cleannamespaces-perl -- module to check for uncleaned imports

2014-08-12 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libtest-cleannamespaces-perl Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : Karen Etheridge * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Test-Cle

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Joe Neal
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:13:17 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > Well, if you believe in lies, then of course your view of the world > will darken. But i hope that this email clears things up. If I am spreading falsehoods then I apologize. The ffmpeg/libav split broke a video sharing site that I buil

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Simon McVittie
On 08/08/14 05:41, Joey Hess wrote: > (Also, perhaps worth noting > that 3.12 is quite a few versions ahead of the gnome currently in > unstable..) The metapackages in src:meta-gnome3 are still at version 3.8, but the actual upstream packages making up GNOME 3.12 are nearly all in testing already.

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Joey Hess
Ian Jackson wrote: > Do you intend to review (or are you reviewing) the decision taken in > July 2012 [1] ? If so, is this discussion here on -devel useful ? If > it is useful, what questions should we be focusing on ? See my 1st message to this thread. Can't say I've found most of the thread u

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Attila Kinali
Hi, On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:24 -0500 Joe Neal wrote: > On both servers and desktops, I've been a Debian user since Sarge. I > use Debian not only because of its strong technical merits, but because > of the strong sense of ethics the project has always had. > > A fork that tries to forcibly

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread wm4
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:51:40 +0200 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > wm4: > > In fact, the API cleanup is an ongoing process, and is what causes the > > incompatibilities with each release. For example, a C library should > > have a consistent naming schema. FFmpeg/Libav decided to use AV and av

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 14:53 +0200, wm4 a écrit : > gstreamer has more problems than it solves. (Forces glib/gobject on > you, GTK-style OOP, pretty crashy, tons of low-quality plugins, > complicated API and design, ...) Hummm, I know FUD when I see it… -- .''`.Josselin Mouette : :' :

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, wm4: > In fact, the API cleanup is an ongoing process, and is what causes the > incompatibilities with each release. For example, a C library should > have a consistent naming schema. FFmpeg/Libav decided to use AV and av_ > as prefixes for all symbols in the public header files. This required

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, wm4: > > ABI backwards compatibility is not a goal I would want to spend any time > > on. Forward compatibility, on the other hand … > > Well, I think it's a pretty common complaint from commercial software > vendors. That you can't distribute precompiled binaries reasonably. > They need to

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Ian Jackson
Jordi Mallach writes ("Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop"): > It's been around 9 months since tasksel changed (for real) the default > desktop for new installs. At the time of the change, it was mentioned > the issue would be revisited before the freeze, around debconf time. Fascinat

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
I enjoy the way you keep ignoring the relevant points, memory usage and performance regressions. And the way you benchmarked gnome against gnome. How about warsaw on xfce on the same hardware or your benchmarks pretty much show nothing except that your 'slight performance increase when using gnome-

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread wm4
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:54:39 +0200 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > wm4: > > Build something on a newer glibc system, and try to run the binary on > > an older system. It most likely won't work - even if it could in > > theory. (At least it was this way some years ago. Probably still is.) > >

Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Reintroducing FFmpeg to Debian

2014-08-12 Thread wm4
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 18:34:23 -0400 Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 10:53:56PM +0200, wm4 wrote: > > > > To be fair, FFmpeg does its own "manual" symbol versioning by appending > > increasing numbers to function names. But the real problem are not > > these functions, but public st

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 13:12 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : > Virtualbox Results (no guest drivers installed) Glxgears is not a relevant 3D benchmark. But the funniest thing is that you did this test without any 3D acceleration, which is not representative at all of most real-world comput

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
> > We happen at work to have users with very important needs of 3D > resources, so one of my colleagues conducted some performance tests with > and without a compositor (the compositor being GNOME 3). > > It turns out that with a recent adapter, 3D applications are running a > small bit faster und

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On 12 August 2014 09:51, Wookey wrote: > > Could you do MATE too please? > > MATE: (with mate-desktop-environment-extras) free ^[[C total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 506756 397480 109276 7096 58820 166076 -/+ buffers/cache: 172584 334172 Swap: 392188 0 392188 The ctrl characters came wit

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-12 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 08/12/2014 12:33, Hector Oron wrote: > 2014-08-01 9:37 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : >> We will allow not including arch:all packages in uploads once we have >> sorted out how to get them built. > > Has it been already discussed? If so, where? Not the part to actually implement it. But fr

Re: First steps towards source-only uploads

2014-08-12 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2014-08-01 9:37 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > We will allow not including arch:all packages in uploads once we have > sorted out how to get them built. Has it been already discussed? If so, where? Regards, -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-. -- To

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 12 août 2014 à 03:03 +0100, Anthony F McInerney a écrit : > I had stated previously XFCE had started showing memory usage similar > to gnome. This has quite obviously changed. I was wrong, and i'm > posting it as a correction to my statement. You’re comparing apples and oranges. These me

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Anthony F McInerney [2014-08-12 00:02 +0100]: >XFCE: > > total used free sharedbuffers cached >Mem:506756 362468 144288 6568 22756 179264 >-/+ buffers/cache: 160448 346308 >Swap: 392188

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Kees de Jong [2014-08-12 02:03 +0200]: >Are we really comparing RAM here as if it were the 90's? How many people >here use Android? Today it needs 512 MB to function properly. In two years >that could be 1 or 2 GB and that's a mobile OS. How much RAM does your >browser use? To