Re: Conflict between debian/upstream (DEP-12) & debian/upstream/ (uscan)

2014-02-21 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Le 12 févr. 2014 15:41, "Andreas Tille" a écrit : > > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 04:11:41PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Le Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 12:06:42AM -0500, James McCoy a écrit : > > > > > > That being said, I don't have access to most of the packages. Even if I > > > did, it feels

Re: Multirelease, something like Multiarch.

2014-02-21 Thread James McCoy
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 09:31:56AM -0600, Mike Mestnik wrote: > Now we've a similar situation for releases and even distributions. We can > run multiple releases using a chroot for each, but perhaps this system can > be improved on. This doesn't seem particularly Debian-specific, so I'm not sure

Re: Conflict between debian/upstream (DEP-12) & debian/upstream/ (uscan)

2014-02-21 Thread James McCoy
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 10:07:42AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > you are very welcome to migrate the ‘debian/upstream’ files of the Debian Med > packaging team. Please do not worry about the ‘debian/upstream-metadata.yaml’ > files. > > Since a large share of the ‘debian/upstream’ files are in De

Re: Conflict between debian/upstream (DEP-12) & debian/upstream/ (uscan)

2014-02-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 03:39:24PM +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > I would say: If nobody will insist until after the weekend we might go > ahead. And for the actual action I agree with Charles that I see no > problem if James would simply commit a change to Debian Med repositories > (SVN and

Re: Bug#727708: Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy

2014-02-21 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Thorsten Glaser writes: > Georgy Demidov dixit: >>Debian user here. This is my first and last letter about the bug >>#727708. I feel this is important to share. > > http://mid.gmane.org/1393001326.916837...@f432.i.mail.ru > > Thank you for sharing this. This was very appreciated, and I think >

Bug#739724: ITP: ruby-tinder -- Ruby wrapper for the Campfire API

2014-02-21 Thread Jonas Genannt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Genannt -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: ruby-tinder Version : 1.9.3 Upstream Author : Brandon Keepers * URL : http://github.com/collectiveidea/tinder * License : MIT Programming L

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 11:38 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > previously on this list hero...@gentoo.org contributed: > >>> And grepping through the output of "ps" or similar is not what >>> I would consider reliable and robust either. >> >> Nod. grepping `ps` is what we should avoid at all cost. > > All cos

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list hero...@gentoo.org contributed: > > And grepping through the output of "ps" or similar is not what > > I would consider reliable and robust either. > > Nod. grepping `ps` is what we should avoid at all cost. All cost? While I like OpenRC and thanks to Gentoo for it and

Re: Bug#727708: Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy

2014-02-21 Thread Thorsten Glaser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA384 Georgy Demidov dixit: >Debian user here. This is my first and last letter about the bug >#727708. I feel this is important to share. http://mid.gmane.org/1393001326.916837...@f432.i.mail.ru Thank you for sharing this. This was very appreciated, an

Re: Bug#727708: Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy

2014-02-21 Thread Chris Knadle
This particular statement was taken out of context: On Friday, February 21, 2014 20:48:46 Georgy Demidov wrote: [...] > Linus Torvalds about Lennart Poettering: “Two-faced lying weasel” would be > the most polite thing I could say. But it almost certainly will involve a > lot of cursing. When Lin

Re: Bug#739706: ITP: python-iso8601 -- Simple module to parse ISO 8601 dates

2014-02-21 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Tristan Seligmann , 2014-02-21, 17:36: * Package name: python-iso8601 Version : 0.1.8 Upstream Author : Michael Twomey * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/iso8601 It's already in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-iso8601.html -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSU

Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy

2014-02-21 Thread Georgy Demidov
Hi! Debian user here. This is my first and last letter about the bug #727708. I feel this is important to share. Quote from Soylent News [1]. Former cypherpunk shares his conspiratorial view on Linux security [1] : Since then, more has happened to reveal the true story here, the depth of which

Multirelease, something like Multiarch.

2014-02-21 Thread Mike Mestnik
Hello, Multiarch gives the ability to store libraries in the main root lib directories from different architectures and this allows applications to co-exist on the same system. Some applications are compiled for amd64 while others are for i386 and perhaps x32. This could have been done using ch

Bug#739706: ITP: python-iso8601 -- Simple module to parse ISO 8601 dates

2014-02-21 Thread Tristan Seligmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tristan Seligmann * Package name: python-iso8601 Version : 0.1.8 Upstream Author : Michael Twomey * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/iso8601 * License : MIT (Expat) Programming Lang: Python Description : Simple

Bug#739705: ITP: python-pretend -- Library for stubbing in Python

2014-02-21 Thread Tristan Seligmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tristan Seligmann * Package name: python-pretend Version : 1.0.7 Upstream Author : Alex Gaynor * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pretend * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Library for stubbi

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 03:28 PM, Mario Lang wrote: > No, you have summarized it pretty neatly. > I just don't consider an X11 program a true alternative to a ncurses tool. Did you give pulseaudio-utils a try then? They don't require X. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Mario Lang
Paul Gevers writes: > On 21-02-14 10:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> On 02/21/2014 09:29 AM, Mario Lang wrote: >>> I am sorry, both are not an option for me, since alsamixer is a ncurses >>> program, and pavucontrol apparently requires $DISPLAY to be set. >>> >>> I guess that explains why

Bug#739700: ITP: python-smstrade -- Python library and command line tool to send SMS via the smstrade service

2014-02-21 Thread Jan Dittberner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Dittberner * Package name: python-smstrade Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Jan Dittberner * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/smstrade/ * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Python library

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: >>> So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to >>> track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable >>> and hacky? >> >> I bet you are going to tell me

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 01:00 PM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: >> So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to >> track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable >> and hacky? > > I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way to > track the state

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread heroxbd
Dear Adrian, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to > track the state of a service? Isn't that approach somewhat unreliable > and hacky? I bet you are going to tell me the only reliable and non-hacky way to track the state of a ser

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: > There are a couple of command line utilities to control Pulse Audio in > the package "pulseaudio-utils". But I haven't used it that much to be > able to assess whether it provides the features Mario needs. > "pacmd" allows you to enumerate outputs, set their volum

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/21/2014 11:56 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > I think the point of Mario is that people like him don't have a DE, > but work from console. I haven't checked, but apparently > pavucontrol needs an X-session to show itself. Of course ALSA has > the same

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Say that I use a screen reader. Someone helps me installing debian, configures the volume level to non-zero and then I am on my own. After a while some package decides to install PA, then the audio is gone, then I'll need someone to come over a second time to help me with that. So yes it applie

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Paul Gevers
On 21-02-14 10:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 02/21/2014 09:29 AM, Mario Lang wrote: >> I am sorry, both are not an option for me, since alsamixer is a ncurses >> program, and pavucontrol apparently requires $DISPLAY to be set. >> >> I guess that explains why the accessibility community

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 11:38 AM, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > Not the same accessibility. And the screen reader will not work if PA > does not work. > This is quite difficult to debug remotely; if the user cannot describe > the output of > commands, then we are doomed. Doesn't this perfectly apply to AL

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Le 2014-02-21 09:57, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz a écrit : On 02/21/2014 09:29 AM, Mario Lang wrote: I am sorry, both are not an option for me, since alsamixer is a ncurses program, and pavucontrol apparently requires $DISPLAY to be set. I guess that explains why the accessibility community has

Bug#739684: ITP: r-other-nitpick -- peak identification for mass spectrometry data

2014-02-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-other-nitpick Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Marc Kirchner * URL : http://hci.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de/MIP/Software/nitpick.php * License : LGPL Programming Lang: R Description : pea

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 04:20 AM, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: > OpenRC needs a proper directory structure in /run/openrc to track the > status of services. It is handled by init.sh and friends, you may need > to hack that. So, OpenRC actually also relies on files - like System V Init - to track the state of a

Re: default init on non-Linux platforms

2014-02-21 Thread Simon McVittie
On 20/02/14 19:37, Ondřej Surý wrote: > I have split openrc into openrc and openrc-sysv moving the conflicting > parts to openrc-sysv on my system, and it install just fine If sysv-rc's invoke-rc.d and update-rc.d should be treated as generic glue shared by multiple inits (which they probably shou

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 02/21/2014 09:29 AM, Mario Lang wrote: > I am sorry, both are not an option for me, since alsamixer is a ncurses > program, and pavucontrol apparently requires $DISPLAY to be set. > > I guess that explains why the accessibility community has > problems with PA. What's wrong with the accessibil

Bug#739677: ITP: trac-navadd -- Add custom items to main and meta navigation bar in Trac web application

2014-02-21 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Kahn Gillmor * Package name: trac-navadd Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Ryan J. Ollos * URL : https://trac-hacks.org/wiki/NavAddPlugin * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Add custom ite

Re: pulseaudio related problems....

2014-02-21 Thread Mario Lang
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. > They have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices > with one input jack and one output jack and any application using it > just has to find the sound card and output its audio s

Re: C++ testing library

2014-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Jan Gloser wrote: > Earlier this week I wanted to find a C++ testing library. I tried gtest and > cppunit but both of them seemed way too much overkill for my needs. You can try cpputest too. You might find it better for your needs. At least I never had any feeling of blo