Re: Bug#732878: Add MariaDB as an alternative dependency

2013-12-30 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/30/2013 11:53 PM, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > Hello, > > 2013/12/25 Thomas Goirand : >> Don't you think it would be more reasonable if the mariadb-client >> contained a Provides: mysql-client, rather than changing each and every >> software dependency in Debian? >> >> Adding debian-devel@, as I

Re: Move awk implementations from /usr/bin to /bin

2013-12-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 30, Laurent Bigonville wrote: > Any thoughts? The correct solution is completing #652459, which mounts /usr in the initramfs. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > The GPL requirement about dependency licensing does not rely on the > legal definition of derivative works. So arguments that a GPL program > that links against OpenSSL is not a derivative work of OpenSSL are > missing the point. I don't believe this is true of the GPLv

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:15:02PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Russ Allbery writes: > > Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't believe that licensing > > crosses the shared library ABI boundary, that the shared OpenSSL library > > and the GPLv2 program that calls it remain separate

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Ansgar Burchardt writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't believe that >> licensing crosses the shared library ABI boundary, that the shared >> OpenSSL library and the GPLv2 program that calls it remain separate >> works, and therefore there is no need

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Vincent Lefevre writes: > On 2013-12-30 10:57:32 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't believe that >> licensing crosses the shared library ABI boundary, that the shared >> OpenSSL library and the GPLv2 program that calls it remain separate >> works, and

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-12-30 10:57:32 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't believe that licensing > crosses the shared library ABI boundary, that the shared OpenSSL library > and the GPLv2 program that calls it remain separate works, and therefore > there is no need for O

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Russ Allbery writes: > Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't believe that licensing > crosses the shared library ABI boundary, that the shared OpenSSL library > and the GPLv2 program that calls it remain separate works, and therefore > there is no need for OpenSSL to meet the GPLv

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Jonathan Nieder writes: > Is that true? When does it even come up? What do this majority of > upstream authors take the meaning and purpose of the phrase > unless that component itself accompanies the executable. > in the GPLv2 to be? Most upstream authors that I've spoken with don't b

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Guillem Jover , 2013-12-30, 12:27: > >I guess it's probably a good idea to switch the default, becuse I > >assume most maintainers do more test builds than final ones. > > ACK And also, it should be friendly to non-maintainers who are just trying to rebu

Bug#733651: general: Any USB card reader works only after being replugged.

2013-12-30 Thread Игорь Пашев
I can confirm this. # uname -a Linux hope 3.10-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.7-1 (2013-08-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux # cat /etc/debian_version jessie/sid udev/204-5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Guillem Jover , 2013-12-30, 12:27: I guess it's probably a good idea to switch the default, becuse I assume most maintainers do more test builds than final ones. ACK If most people agree this would be an improvement, and not just an annoyance, I'm happy to do the change. But there's few thi

Bug#733651: general: Any USB card reader works only after being replugged.

2013-12-30 Thread Miroslav Scaldov
Package: general Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Dear Maintainer, *** Please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** After system reboot or replugging USB card reader into USB slot, the SD or MMC or Memory Stick card appears in /dev/disks/by-id, say as /d

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Most upstream authors who > cares about licensing, do not agree with Debian's view about GPL and > OpenSSL incompatibility, and this is what counts. Is that true? When does it even come up? What do this majority of upstream au

Re: Bug#732878: Add MariaDB as an alternative dependency

2013-12-30 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello, 2013/12/25 Thomas Goirand : > Don't you think it would be more reasonable if the mariadb-client > contained a Provides: mysql-client, rather than changing each and every > software dependency in Debian? > > Adding debian-devel@, as I think it should be discussed more broadly. We discussed

Bug#733634: ITP: gevent-socketio -- Socket.IO server based on the Gevent pywsgi server

2013-12-30 Thread Benjamin Drung
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Benjamin Drung * Package name: gevent-socketio (binary: python-gevent-socketio) Version : 0.3.6 Upstream Author : Jeffrey Gelens * URL : https://github.com/abourget/gevent-socketio * License : BSD Programming Lang: Pyth

Re: Move awk implementations from /usr/bin to /bin

2013-12-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Laurent Bigonville: > In order to fix #729704[0] (optional feature of /sbin/auditd using awk) > I would like to have awk (all the implementations) moved to /bin instead > of /usr/bin. It seems quite a bit easier to reimplement this awk snippet in bash. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-deve

Move awk implementations from /usr/bin to /bin

2013-12-30 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Hello, In order to fix #729704[0] (optional feature of /sbin/auditd using awk) I would like to have awk (all the implementations) moved to /bin instead of /usr/bin. It seems that "awk" is already transitively Essential, so it might make sense to move the binary in /bin. This should probably be c

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ CCing debian-devel to get input from possibly afftected users. ] On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:14:22 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Package: dpkg-dev > Severity: wishlist > File: /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage > X-Debbugs-CC: Arno Töll > > Please disable signing by default. Generally the right thing to

Re: GnuTLS in Debian

2013-12-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bastien ROUCARIES: > Fedora created a open SSL compat library based on libnss. It doesn't work all that well because there is no way to implement host name checking. The OpenSSL API it's based on did not have an interface for host name verification, and the compatibility library does not dupli