Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Hi, Josh Triplett wrote (29 May 2013 18:50:23 GMT) : > As a user of sid who also maintains various systems running stable, I > rely on packages like xul-ext-adblock-plus to make it easier to install > specific addons systemwide. FTR, packaged XUL extensions make it easier to build Debian Live sys

Bug#710349: ITP: maple-package -- utility for creating Maple Debian packages

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jerome Benoit * Package name: maple-package Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Jerome Benoit * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: bash, make Description : utility for creating Maple Debian packages Maple is a commercial Comp

Re: Debian systemd survey

Ken Barber writes: > What are the results Michael? He posted them to debian-devel, but also: http://people.debian.org/~stapelberg//2013/05/27/systemd-survey-results.html -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: Debian systemd survey

What are the results Michael? ken. On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Michael Stapelberg wrote: > Hello, > > In the past, we have had multiple heated discussions involving > systemd. We (the pkg-systemd-maintainers team) would like to better > understand why some people dislike systemd. > > Theref

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

Hi Sébastien, hi all, On Di, 28 Mai 2013, Sébastien Villemot wrote: > AFAIK, makeinfo is not able to render @math blocks as images (formatted > with LaTeX), while texi2html does. The output of math formulas with On the bug-texinfo list I got the following answer from Patrice Dumas, the author: O

Re: default MTA

Chris Knadle writes: > On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 15:46:15, Russ Allbery wrote: >> That's exactly the point, and is why I would prefer not to write those >> notifications into a file that no one ever looks at. (Which is why I >> don't find sending them to syslog much more appealing, since the >>

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

Sylvestre Ledru wrote: >Hello, > >With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang >instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report >bugs on packages failing to build with clang (with patches if >possible). >The severity would be minor. >Of course, I would do that only

Re: default MTA

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 15:46:15, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: > > What you propose requires: > > * adding desktop environment specific code to every facility that may > > need > > > > to send notifications > > > > * adding such notifications to every other desktop environmen

Bug#710324: ITP: staden -- set of DNA sequence assembly, editing and analysis tools

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: staden Version : 2.0.0b9 Upstream Author : Medical Research Council, Laboratory of Molecular Biology * URL : http://staden.sourceforge.net/ * License : unknown (need to be resolved, obviou

Re: default MTA

Andrei POPESCU writes: > On Mi, 29 mai 13, 21:52:04, Marc Haber wrote: >> Yes. And many systems have intermittent connectivity, which rules out >> non-queueing mini-MTAs. Exim does the Job pretty well, and people who >> know what an MTA is will probably install their own anyway, so there is >> no

Re: default MTA

On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 16:12:39, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 29 mai 13, 21:52:04, Marc Haber wrote: > > Yes. And many systems have intermittent connectivity, which rules out > > non-queueing mini-MTAs. Exim does the Job pretty well, and people who > > know what an MTA is will probably instal

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Moritz Mühlenhoff writes: > Willi Mann schrieb: >> Hello Moritz, >> >> Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >>> As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel >>> and icedove in stable-security. >> >> wouldn't it be better to do the bumps of major ESR versions in point >> releases? That

Re: default MTA

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 09:06:59PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:11:35PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a > > écrit : > > > Take for example, smartmoontools [1]. Currently, if an end-user > > > installs

Re: Debian systemd survey

Marc Haber writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> I'm happy to provide both, integrate patches, etc., although I think >> init scripts are awful and my level of personal motivation to work on >> init scripts compared to anything else (whether it be systemd or >> upstart or whatever else someone might

Re: default MTA

On Mi, 29 mai 13, 21:52:04, Marc Haber wrote: > > Yes. And many systems have intermittent connectivity, which rules out > non-queueing mini-MTAs. Exim does the Job pretty well, and people who > know what an MTA is will probably install their own anyway, so there > is no need to change. Exim is a

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

> Hello, > > With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang > instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report > bugs on packages failing to build with clang (with patches if possible). > The severity would be minor. > Of course, I would do that only when the issue is up

Re: default MTA

On 05/29/2013 11:32 PM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > On 29 May 2013 17:11, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> > Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a >> > écrit : >> > He will see a notification on his desktop. Clear, understandable and >> > translated in his configured

Re: Debian systemd survey

On Wed, 29 May 2013 09:30:47 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> Would you also be happy to test and support both systemd unit files >> _and_ init scripts? > >I'm happy to provide both, integrate patches, etc., although I think init >scripts are awful and my level of personal motiva

Re: default MTA

On Wed, 29 May 2013 16:07:18 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: >On 28 May 2013 13:05, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> And on desktop systems, nobody reads local email. We might want to think >> of a better notification system, but email is definitely not fit for >> that anymore. > >On desktop sy

Re: default MTA

Adam Borowski writes: > What you propose requires: > * adding desktop environment specific code to every facility that may need > to send notifications > * adding such notifications to every other desktop environment > * coming up with a way to send such notifications remotely > All of that is

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Willi Mann schrieb: > Hello Moritz, > > Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel >> and icedove in stable-security. > > wouldn't it be better to do the bumps of major ESR versions in point > releases? That might also allow a few more extensions

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Arno Töll schrieb: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) > --enigD8B4E48BF27B74A11F1ECB8F > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On 29.05.2013 15:15, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> I would expect some more pac

Re: systemd .service file conversion

On 27-05-13 21:56, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 27 mai 2013 à 09:13 +0200, Ondřej Surý a écrit : >> I would be quite happy to write service files for two (systemd, >> upstart) or three (systemd, upstart, openrc) of those in all my >> packages[*], if it stops the endless flamewar here. I woul

Re: default MTA

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:11:35PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a > écrit : > > Take for example, smartmoontools [1]. Currently, if an end-user > > installs smartmoontools and a hard-disk fails (i.e. smartd detects a > > problem

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:04:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2013, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES > > wrote: > > > not sure about svgz... On a typical svg file: > > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bastien bastien 452K mai 28 18:48 display-im6.sv

Re: default MTA

On 05/28/2013 06:27 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/28/2013 10:24 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Just like for the MIME support mess, the damage is already done. Nobody, >> I repeat, nobody, ever reads local mail on most desktop systems, and >> even many server systems. > > The question you have

Re: default MTA

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/28/2013 03:02 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the flame > war about replacing Exim with Postfix as the default MTA? Look into the archives, we had that often enough. > Are there any

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel > and icedove in stable-security. Very welcome news. > One problematic aspect are the various xul-ext-* packages currently > packaged. It's very likely that some of them will break with ESR17 > and ESR24

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Wed, 29 May 2013, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES > wrote: > > not sure about svgz... On a typical svg file: > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bastien bastien 452K mai 28 18:48 display-im6.svg > > -rw-r--r-- 1 bastien bastien 103K mai 28 18:48 display-im6.svg.gz

Re: [clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 07:05:18PM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Hello, > > With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang > instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report > bugs on packages failing to build with clang (with patches if possible). > The severity would

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Hello Moritz, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel > and icedove in stable-security. wouldn't it be better to do the bumps of major ESR versions in point releases? That might also allow a few more extensions to be updated. > However, there

[clang] Report bugs on packages failing to build with clang

Hello, With the recent setup of the parallel build infrastructure using clang instead of gcc [1], I would like to start to report bugs on packages failing to build with clang (with patches if possible). The severity would be minor. Of course, I would do that only when the issue is upstream [2]. A

Bug#710302: ITP: neurosynth -- Large-scale synthesis of functional neuroimaging data

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko * Package name: neurosynth Version : 0.3.0 (to be released) Upstream Author : Tal Yarkoni * URL : http://neurosynth.org * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: Python Description : Large-scale synt

Re: Debian systemd survey

Marc Haber writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> (The shading of meaning between those two options could be clearer. I >> took it as a measure of enthusiasm and personally answered "I welcome >> systemd in Debian" because, regardless of whether it becomes the >> default, I'm happy to provide systemd

Re: default MTA

On Mi, 29 mai 13, 17:36:31, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: > > The "no local mail reader" installed case is not a common case, since > users installing a default desktop will get it. ... but never start it if they think (like so many users now) that e-mail == webmail. I think forwarding root

Bug#710296: ITP: maple-latex -- LaTeX packages, environments and macros distributed by Maple

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jerome Benoit * Package name: maple-latex Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Waterloo Maple Inc. * URL : http://www.maplesoft.com * License : ad hoc Waterloo Maple Inc. license Programming Lang: TeX/LaTeX Description

Re: default MTA

On 29 May 2013 17:12, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > 2013/5/29 Javier Fernandez-Sanguino : >> On 28 May 2013 19:10, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >>> Would it help if we had a desktop-component, which is able to: >>> 1) Show a notification *on the desktop* if the user received new mail >>> 2) Offer a GUI wa

Re: default MTA

On 29 May 2013 17:11, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a > écrit : > He will see a notification on his desktop. Clear, understandable and > translated in his configured language: > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-disk-utility/tree/src/no

Re: default MTA

2013/5/29 Javier Fernandez-Sanguino : > On 28 May 2013 19:10, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >> Would it help if we had a desktop-component, which is able to: >> 1) Show a notification *on the desktop* if the user received new mail >> 2) Offer a GUI way to read system mails >> 3) Offer a way to delete

Re: default MTA

Le mercredi 29 mai 2013 à 16:31 +0200, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino a écrit : > Take for example, smartmoontools [1]. Currently, if an end-user > installs smartmoontools and a hard-disk fails (i.e. smartd detects a > problem with one HD) he will *not* see any notification: the failure > is sent throu

Re: default MTA

On 28 May 2013 19:10, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Would it help if we had a desktop-component, which is able to: > 1) Show a notification *on the desktop* if the user received new mail > 2) Offer a GUI way to read system mails > 3) Offer a way to delete these mails Instead of adding *another* des

Bug#710278: ITP: r-cran-gbm -- GNU R package "Generalized Boosted Regression Models"

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pablo Oliveira * Package name: r-cran-gbm Version : 2.1 Upstream Author : Greg Ridgeway * URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/gbm/index.html * License : GPL (>= 2) Programming Lang: C++, R Description :

Re: default MTA

On 28 May 2013 13:05, Josselin Mouette wrote: > And on desktop systems, nobody reads local email. We might want to think > of a better notification system, but email is definitely not fit for > that anymore. On desktop systems nobody reads local email because IIRC the default email client applica

Bug#710273: ITP: openstack-debian-images -- script to build a Debian image for OpenStack

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: openstack-debian-images Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Thomas Goirand * URL : No URL... * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Shell script Description : script to build a Debian

Bug#710271: ITP: librdkafka -- library implementing the Apache Kafka protocol

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Faidon Liambotis * Package name: librdkafka Version : 0.8.0 Upstream Author : Magnus Edenhill * URL : https://github.com/edenhill/librdkafka * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: C Description : library impl

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

On 29.05.2013 15:15, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > I would expect some more packages giving us similar problems in the > future: other web browsers (chromium) or web applications (owncloud?) > where we might have to provide new upstream versions that require > updating related packages (or breaking the

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

Hi, On 05/28/2013 22:33, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of iceweasel > and icedove in stable-security. > Reverse-deps of the older xulrunner libs have negligable security > impact and we won't update them any further. > > One problematic aspect ar

Re: Bug#710262: ITP: Archi -- Archi is a tool and editor to create ArchiMate models

On Wed, 2013-05-29 at 13:49 +0200, Willem van den Akker wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Willem van den Akker > > * Package name: Archi > Version : 2.4.0 > Upstream Author : p.beauv...@dadabeatnik.com > * URL : http://archi.cetis.ac.uk/ > * License

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

Le mardi 28 mai 2013 16:48:50, Ryan Kavanagh a écrit : > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 08:28:37PM -0400, Ryan Kavanagh wrote: > > See attached for a dd-list of affected packages. > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 04:37:44PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > > Please attach a list of packages run through

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:28:18PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > > Long term plan (for GNOME) is doing away with differences between > > tarball contents and git repository. > > Does that mean switching away from autotools? > Or not shipping co

Bug#710262: ITP: Archi -- Archi is a tool and editor to create ArchiMate models

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Willem van den Akker * Package name: Archi Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : p.beauv...@dadabeatnik.com * URL : http://archi.cetis.ac.uk/ * License: MIT Programming Lang: Java Description : Archi is a free, open s

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:29:07AM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Have you checked indirect build-dependencies on texi2html (e.g. the > package build depends on foo, which depends on texi2html)? ryan@nu:~$ reverse-depends texi2html Reverse-Depends === * translate-docformat Packages wi

Re: X.509 and CA certificates for other purposes (i.e. the IGTF)

On 25-05-13 04:04, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 12:32 +0200, Dennis van Dok wrote: >> The point I'd like to raise is that the current model of CA >> certificates seems to take an all-or-nothing approach: either a CA is >> trusted (for whatever purpose) or not. For the IGT

Re: piuparts 0.52 (was Re: bits from the piuparts maintainers: the first million is the hardest)

Hi, On Dienstag, 28. Mai 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: > BTW, would someone appreciate wheezy-backports of piuparts? Someone does, so piuparts 0.51~bpo70+1 is available in wheezy-bpo now (*) and will be updated there in future as well. cheers, Holger (*) it just past NEW so will be avail

Re: optimizing PNGs

2013/5/29 Paul Wise : > Does that mean switching away from autotools? No. > Or not shipping configure/Makefile.in in the tarballs? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:/

Re: default MTA

> Forwarding root's mail to all users in the group users. Then using the > standard mail clients (kmail, evolution or even mutt). What is wrong with setting an alias from root to the user configured during installation? -- Salvo Tomaselli http://web.student.chalmers.se/~saltom/ signature.as

Bug#710237: ITP: dleyna-server -- DBus service to interact with DLNA Digital Media Servers

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emanuele Aina * Package name: dleyna-server Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : dLeyna Development Group - Intel OTC * URL : https://01.org/dleyna/ * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : DBus service

Bug#710236: ITP: dleyna-renderer -- DBus service to interact with DLNA Digital Media Renderers

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emanuele Aina * Package name: dleyna-renderer Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : dLeyna Development Group - Intel OTC * URL : https://01.org/dleyna/ * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : DBus servi

Re: MBF: transition from texi2html to texinfo

Am Dienstag, den 28.05.2013, 22:45 -0400 schrieb Ryan Kavanagh: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:08:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > There have been two responses to your proposal so far, neither of > > which particularly looks to be in favor of your plan. I don't think > > it's reasonable to pro

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > Long term plan (for GNOME) is doing away with differences between > tarball contents and git repository. Does that mean switching away from autotools? Or not shipping configure/Makefile.in in the tarballs? -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.o

Bug#710235: ITP: dleyna-connector-dbus -- DBus connector module for the dLeyna services

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emanuele Aina * Package name: dleyna-connector-dbus Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : dLeyna Development Group - Intel OTC * URL : https://01.org/dleyna/ * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : DBus

Bug#710233: ITP: dleyna-core -- Utility functions for higher level dLeyna components

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Emanuele Aina * Package name: dleyna-core Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : dLeyna Development Group - Intel OTC * URL : https://01.org/dleyna/ * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : Utility functi

Re: default MTA

Le 28/05/2013 21:12, Tzafrir Cohen a écrit : > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 07:10:51PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Forwarding root's mail to all users in the group users. Then using the > standard mail clients (kmail, evolution or even mutt). > Hi, 1- Not every user should be permitted to read ro

Re: default MTA

Le 28/05/2013 21:51, Adam Borowski a écrit : > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 05:58:15PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: >> We could imagine running a simple biff applet by default in every >> desktop interface, and clicking it could trigger a simple mail reader, >> configured for local mail. > > Why would

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 05:56:06PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > A while ago, someone raised the possibility of recompressing PNG files. > Unlike xz, this would save space not only on mirrors but also on live > installed systems. PNGs are nearly incompressible so this is mostly > independent from

Re: default MTA

On 05/29/2013 03:14 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: >> Your parents don't read mail? That is surprising to me. In this days >> and age, everyone does. > > They read mail received on a remote server (mine, their ISP's, or > Google's) via IMAP or webmail (or possibly POP3, if I hadn't advised > them not t

Re: default MTA

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 08:14:58AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 28/05/13 16:42, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 05/28/2013 08:05 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: > >> I'm quite prepared to believe that *our* Unix systems - and in > >> particular, servers and development machines - need an MTA, but my >

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Tue, 28 May 2013, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: >>> optimizing the svg file by removing all space and comments ? >> >> svgz (or similar) will handle this far better, and retain sourc

Re: optimizing PNGs

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 28 May 2013, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: >> optimizing the svg file by removing all space and comments ? > > svgz (or similar) will handle this far better, and retain source. > [Though it's not clear to me if everything supports on-the-f

Re: optimizing PNGs

Quoting Bastien ROUCARIES (2013-05-28 19:05:11) > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Helmut Grohne writes: > > > >> I'd like to add some bits from the doxygen point of view. > >> Documentation packages created using doxygen currently have a > >> number of issues with respe

Re: default MTA

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 08:14:58AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 28/05/13 16:42, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > I'm not sure I agree with the above. I'm fine with Debian being the OS > > for the experts. > > That's a shame; I think it should be for everyone (including, but > not limited to, experts

Re: default MTA

On 28/05/13 16:42, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/28/2013 08:05 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: >> I'm quite prepared to believe that *our* Unix systems - and in >> particular, servers and development machines - need an MTA, but my >> parents' laptops really shouldn't need one. > > Are you saying that th

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:33:03PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Hi, > we need to change the way security fixes are handled for Mozilla > in stable-security. The backporting of security fixes is no > longer sustainable resource-wise. > > As such, we'll switch to releasing the ESR releases of

Re: Debian systemd survey

On Sat, 25 May 2013 11:27:36 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >(The shading of meaning between those two options could be clearer. I >took it as a measure of enthusiasm and personally answered "I welcome >systemd in Debian" because, regardless of whether it becomes the default, >I'm happy to provide sy

Re: "Blacklists" in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

On Mon, 27 May 2013 22:22:07 +0300, Christian PERRIER wrote: >Quoting Ond?ej Surý (ond...@sury.org): >> You are most welcome to come, join the packaging team(s) and help triage >> those or any other bugs. (And I do mean it for real and not as sarcasm.) >> >> BTW there's around 2000 open bugs mark

Re: Debian systemd survey

On Fri, 24 May 2013 09:09:32 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 08:40:19AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 23 May 2013 12:50:00 -0700, Steve Langasek >> wrote: >> >Also worth noting: >> > >> >~/systemd$ find . -name '*.c' | grep -vE 'tests|test/|intl/|udev/' \ >> >