Re: systemd^wfoo on linux, bar on bsd,so what (Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

On Fri, 17 May 2013 13:42:30 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Freitag, 17. Mai 2013, Marc Haber wrote: >> We're going to have a TC decision or a GR about this anyway. > >why do you think so? Because I think that a decision of this magnitude should not be taken by a single developer, not even by M'

Re: jessie release goals

On Tue, 14 May 2013 17:37:59 +0100, Wookey wrote: > +++ Stephen Kitt [2013-05-13 19:26 +0200]: > > Yes, but that's not the problem. Take the premise that the target > > directory structure is as described above, so most library development > > packages ship as many headers as possible in /usr/incl

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

On 18.05.2013 20:04, Antonio Terceiro wrote: >> However, Watcom is needed only for 16-bit code, and VirtualBox has an EFI >> mode. Would it be possible to restrict it to EFI only in main, unless the >> BIOS from contrib is loaded? > > If that's possible, I would ask the virtualbox maintainer(s) t

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

W dniu 18.05.2013 18:00, Adam Borowski pisze: >>> I've noticed that virtualbox moved from main to contrib > It's a major loss. > However, Watcom is needed only for 16-bit code, and VirtualBox has an EFI > mode. Would it be possible to restrict it to EFI only in main, unless the > BIOS from contr

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

[re-adding the package maintainer(s) in Cc:, and adding the vagrant maintainer(s) in the loop] On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 05:49:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:38:46PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 05/18/2013 08:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > I've noticed that v

Re: WebID as passwordless authentication for debian web services

Olivier Berger writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> Oh, absolutely. If you are in a position to verify PPG signatures from >> the user, you can of course use PGP as the authentication method, at >> which point you don't need to trust anything other than PGP. The >> problem, of course, is that thi

Re: Packaging releases without a tarball (sometimes)

Wouter Verhelst writes: > > Oh. my. god. > > Just ask your upstream to do proper releases rather than manually > *pointing* to git commits? Really, this kind of behaviour is horrible, > and causing you all kinds of problems. I doubt you'll be the only one > who's having problems; people who insta

Re: Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services

Russ Allbery writes: > So, again, it comes down to what problem we're trying to solve. If the > problem is just how do we authenticate Debian contributors to Debian > systems, then we're actually in the institutional case and we don't have > to trust anyone outside the project: we can deploy our

Re: WebID as passwordless authentication for debian web services

Hi. Thanks for your valuable feedback. Russ Allbery writes: > Olivier Berger writes: >> Russ Allbery writes: > >> May I suggest you forward this to the WebID list so that more informed >> experts can react ? This seems a very interesting problem, and certainly >> not Debian-related (I could f

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:38:46PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/18/2013 08:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > > I've noticed that virtualbox moved from main to contrib > FYI, this has been discussed here: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691148 It's a major loss. However, Wa

Re: virtualbox moved to contrib

On 05/18/2013 08:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > I've noticed that virtualbox moved from main to contrib (via > http://jenkins.debian.net/job/chroot-installation_sid_install_full_desktop/) > and while I personally don't use virtualbox anymore I think this is news to > be > announced (henc

Re: Packaging releases without a tarball (sometimes)

On 05/17/2013 01:02 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > >> I am having trouble with my package jquery-jplayer (a JavaScript library >> with Flash fallback) and I would like to ask for advice on how to proceed > I would suggest asking upstream again t

Bug#708776: ITP: moses -- statistical machine translation system

Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Koichi Akabe * Package name: moses Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : University of Edinburgh * URL : http://www.statmt.org/moses/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : statistical machine translation

virtualbox moved to contrib

Hi, I've noticed that virtualbox moved from main to contrib (via http://jenkins.debian.net/job/chroot-installation_sid_install_full_desktop/) and while I personally don't use virtualbox anymore I think this is news to be announced (hence informing the publicity team), probably even deserving an

Re: jessie release goals

On Sb, 18 mai 13, 10:33:54, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2013-05-18 14:55:46 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > http://wiki.debian.org/umask > > It says: > > An umask of 022 gives write permission to the other group members. > > Is it true? Probably a typo, fixed. Kind regards, Andrei -- h

Re: jessie release goals

On 2013-05-18 14:55:46 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > http://wiki.debian.org/umask It says: An umask of 022 gives write permission to the other group members. Is it true? -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog:

Re: Depends: libfoo:foreign ???

On Sat, 18 May 2013 01:36:02 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 07:12:26PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > I can already say that it won't be binary identical to the 64+32 build, > > because even the 64-bit standalone build isn't binary identical to the > > 64-bit side of a combi

Re: Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services

On 16-05-13 18:37, Russ Allbery wrote: > Wouter Verhelst writes: >> On 16-05-13 17:42, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> You could, in theory, switch to DNSSEC, but now you're just replacing >>> one CA cartel with another. > >> Except that with DNSSEC (and DANE), the number of people you have to >> trus

Re: Do opaque struct changes break C library ABIs

On 17-05-13 02:35, Russ Allbery wrote: > I have a C shared library that takes a pointer to an opaque struct as the > first argument to most of its API calls. The internal layout of that > opaque struct is changing (to add new members). The only way to create > the opaque state struct is via a cal

Re: jessie release goals

On 16-05-13 21:27, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Wouter Verhelst's message of 2013-05-14 03:22:14 -0700: >> On 13-05-13 05:59, Mark Symonds wrote: >>> Can we keep the distribution simple enough for nearly anyone to understand? >>> >> >> No. >> >> The goal of Debian is not to be "simple". Wh

Re: Packaging releases without a tarball (sometimes)

On 17-05-13 08:01, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Chow Loong Jin > wrote: > > On 17/05/2013 01:01, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > > > > Patch releases are NOT available as zip files and the list of > wrongdoings is lon

Re: jessie release goals

On Sb, 18 mai 13, 14:55:46, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:29:42PM -0600, Bob Proulx a écrit : > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Andreas Beckmann wrote: > > > > now might be the right time to start a discussion about release goals > > > > for jessie. > > > > > > How about settin