Re: uscan connection error

2013-05-15 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 16/05/2013 07:05, Eugene Zhukov a écrit : > I'm trying to download sources using d/watch and uscan. Here is the > output of uscan --verbose --force-download: > -- Scanning for watchfiles in . > -- Found watchfile in ./debian > -- In debian/watch, processing watchfile line: >https://www.saxon

Re: Jessie goals, and /etc/host.conf

2013-05-15 Thread Brian May
On 16 May 2013 12:10, Gordon Haverland wrote: > Supposedly you've been reading source more than me lately, but > almost all the non-source documentation says that the resolver in > modern libc (and this goes back 5 or more years) does not use > /etc/host.conf. > On Debian wheezy: strace -eopen p

uscan connection error

2013-05-15 Thread Eugene Zhukov
Hello, I'm trying to download sources using d/watch and uscan. Here is the output of uscan --verbose --force-download: -- Scanning for watchfiles in . -- Found watchfile in ./debian -- In debian/watch, processing watchfile line: https://www.saxonica.co.uk/repos/archive/opensource/tags/ (\d.*)/

Re: Jessie goals, and /etc/host.conf

2013-05-15 Thread Gordon Haverland
On May 15, 2013, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:26:26PM -0600, Gordon Haverland wrote: > > I wrote a note to my LUG about the use of /etc/hosts to > > lessen the chance of visiting some types of web sites, and > > got a reply saying that /etc/host.conf was deprecated. And > >

Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I have a package[1] that will not transition to testing due to failed compilation on powerpc. The problem is that the actual package requires a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to signify this by adding "Build-Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.7)" to the dependencies. On

Re: Web ID as passwordless authentication for debian web services [was: Re: Developer repositories for Debian]

2013-05-15 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes: > On 05/14/2013 10:03 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> I have also thought WebID would be a perfect match for things like this. > [...] >> Daniel has raised concerns about WebID: >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/freedombox-discuss/2011-March/001030.html >>

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 05:33:44PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Though zsh has an option to emulate sh, it may still not be completely > compatible. Upstream fixes incompatibilities when it is easy. But some > incompatibilities may remain. If sh needs special multibyte (UTF-8) > support for some

Bug#708476: ITP: pd-extended -- Extended version of puredata which recommends the installation of a large set of extra pd libraries, extensions and documentation.

2013-05-15 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kaj Ailomaa * Package name: pd-extended Version : 0.44 Upstream Author : Name * URL : http://puredata.info/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: (C, Tcl, Lua, puredata) Description : Extended version of puredata whi

Bug#708474: ITP: ocaml-fdkaac -- OCaml bindings for the FDK AAC library

2013-05-15 Thread Romain Beauxis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Romain Beauxis * Package name: ocmal-fdkaac Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : The Savonet Team * URL : https://github.com/savonet/ocaml-fdkaac * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: OCaml Description : OCaml bindings

Re: Jessie goals, and /etc/host.conf

2013-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:26:26PM -0600, Gordon Haverland wrote: > I wrote a note to my LUG about the use of /etc/hosts to lessen the > chance of visiting some types of web sites, and got a reply saying > that /etc/host.conf was deprecated. And a long time ago. > I'm running unstable, surely i

Re: Debian development and release: always releasable (essay)

2013-05-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 08:49:51PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Releases are important > -- > > Releases are important to many, perhaps most, of our users. Hackers > and hardcore powerusers don't necessarily care about them, of course, > but most others do. A released vers

Jessie goals, and /etc/host.conf

2013-05-15 Thread Gordon Haverland
I wrote a note to my LUG about the use of /etc/hosts to lessen the chance of visiting some types of web sites, and got a reply saying that /etc/host.conf was deprecated. And a long time ago. I'm running unstable, surely if /etc/host.conf was deprecated I would have seen a note about it in the

Re: [Popcon-developers] encrypted popcon submissions

2013-05-15 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:43:25AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Why do you think this is too much for popov to handle? > > I did some benchmark. Currently popov CPU has about 20% of a real CPU. > Currently processing the popcon data takes between 6h30 and 8h30. > At this rate decrypting the r

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-15 Thread Christoph Biedl
Another thing: Hardening already has been a release goal but there still are packages around without. After having seen the proctetion catching a programming bug I think more importance should be put on that, either by considering all packages rc-buggy that should be built with hardening wrappers

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-15 Thread Christoph Biedl
Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote... > 2) No more packages that bypass the package management system and secure > apt: > a) There are still several (typically non-free) packages which download > stuff from the web, install or at least un-tar it somwhere without > checking any integrity information th

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-15 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Le 15/05/2013 16:40, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > Here this is more than a mail server being down. It is a domain > without a MX; doesn't this mean a direct reject? Actually removing > the MX pointer wouldn't be OK, as the client may look at the A record > instead, which can't be removed without te

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.05.2013 02:12, schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 15.05.2013 01:26, schrieb brian m. carlson: >> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >>> This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much >>> more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Helmut Grohne writes: > Using the diversion mechanism to change /bin/sh is highly risky and was > never supported. Even if Debian only supports running dash (or bash) as > /bin/sh and we ignore problems from broken scripts, there still is the > breakage resulting from the diversion itself. As far

Re: /bin/sh

2013-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > ]] "brian m. carlson" >> It means that it works completely differently from every existing Unix >> log parser on the planet. syslog is hardly "no formatting at all". > syslog and other log files isn't structured particularly well. That's the understatement of the yea

Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev -> libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Beckmann writes: > On 2013-05-15 09:58, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> The '2' in libgd2-dev is from 2.x.x, and not from the SONAME to reflect >> the API version (1 vs 2). > Which is, at least, confusing, as it is different elsewhere. And > violates Policy Chapter 8. Policy is wrong here. I

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/15/2013 05:52 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > I have still hard time to consider that you absolutely did not mention > something related to a bootloader. I believe Phil Hands explained better than I would what I tried to explain. On 05/15/2013 05:52 AM, Vincent Bernat wrote: > Like in the previo

Re: Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 06:15:37PM +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > package requires > a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to > signify this by adding "Build-Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.7)" to the dependencies. > > On PowerPC, despite gcc version 4.7 (and, indeed, 4.8) being

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/14/2013 06:07 PM, Philip Hands wrote: > He missed the fact that you were contrasting one non-crashing init, that > is capable of restarting dead services, with another non-crashing > init setup that is not able to do so (without help). Oh, indeed I missed that point! Thanks Phil. Thomas -

Re: Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-05-15 17:15, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I have a package[1] that will not transition to testing due to failed > compilation on powerpc. The problem is that the actual package requires > a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to > signify this by adding "Build-Depend

Re: Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:15:37 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > I have a package[1] that will not transition to testing due to failed > compilation on powerpc. The problem is that the actual package requires > a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to > signify this b

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jonathan Dowland debian.org> writes: > I think you are totally out of order, here. You could equally be criticised > of having your judgement clouded by your involvement with MirOS. That would I admit being biased for that very reason. And that’s also the reason I try to push for freedom of choi

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-05-07 14:23:47 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Shells suitable for /bin/sh are currently bash, dash, mksh. [...] > I have no idea whether yash or zsh can be made suitable, but I think > both could, if the maintainers and possibly upstream are interested. Though zsh has an option to emulate

Specifying a C++11 compatible pre-dependency

2013-05-15 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I have a package[1] that will not transition to testing due to failed compilation on powerpc. The problem is that the actual package requires a fairly complete C++11 support in order to compile. I have tried to signify this by adding "Build-Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.7)" to the dependencies. On

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery debian.org> writes: > The cvs package went down the debconf path, and it never failed to annoy > me. When I installed the cvs package to get the cvs command-line client > to access remote CVS repositories, it asked me where I wanted to create a Or even automatically created one, ye

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

2013-05-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 11, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >Close. Because there is no aging requirement it moves much more quickly and >as a result, there's much less risk of multiple transitions getting entangled >and delayed. > >Ubuntu explicitly defines the $ RELEASE-proposed pocket as 'not meant fo

Re: jessie release goals

2013-05-15 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-05-15 01:00:37 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/13/2013 07:08 PM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2013-05-07 23:54:36 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 05/07/2013 04:00 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >>> This can be fine for some daemons/servers. For instance, for a web > >>> server, dis

Bug#708402: ITP: libterm-editoredit-perl -- edit a document via $EDITOR

2013-05-15 Thread Oleg Gashev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleg Gashev * Package name: libterm-editoredit-perl Version : 0.0016 Upstream Author : Robert Krimen * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Term-EditorEdit/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Descrip

Bug#708395: ITP: r-cran-deldir -- GNU R Delaunay Triangulation and Dirichlet (Voronoi) Tessellation

2013-05-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: r-cran-deldir Version : 0.0-22 Upstream Author : Rolf Turner * URL : http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/deldir/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: R Description : GNU R Delaunay T

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 06:26:40PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Oh, sorry, I forgot, you work for Canonical (which totally explains some > of your writings in the other eMail too, which I’m not going to comment > on). Of course, for *buntu people it’s not about choice. I think you are totally o

Bug#708371: ITP: libtext-clip-perl -- clip and extract text in clipboard-like way

2013-05-15 Thread Oleg Gashev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Oleg Gashev * Package name: libtext-clip-perl Version : 0..0014 Upstream Author : Robert Krimen * URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Text-Clip/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description :

on binary logs (was: Re: /bin/sh)

2013-05-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
"brian m. carlson" writes: >> I have no idea why people assume that a binary format means it can only >> be processed with a special, proprietary tool. Binary simply means what >> it means, binary and not text which means it's a more stream-lined and >> machine-readable format as opposed to a tex

systemd & journal (was: Re: /bin/sh)

2013-05-15 Thread Gergely Nagy
"brian m. carlson" writes: > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:08:21PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> This is utter bullshit and you should already know it. Systemd is much >> more reliable as a whole than any other implementation. I have yet to >> see a use case where it is not better. > > It is not

Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev -> libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-15 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi, On 2013-05-15 09:58, Ondřej Surý wrote: > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: >> Might I suggest libgd-dev instead? If a later API revision makes lots > The upstream position is that MAJOR release will break API. (But who > knows if that ever happens). So I think the libgd2

Bug#708314: marked as done (general: i cannot access my system settings)

2013-05-15 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 15 May 2013 11:04:59 +0300 with message-id <20130515080459.GC17471@sid.nuvreauspam> and subject line Re: Bug#708314: general: i cannot access my system settings has caused the Debian Bug report #708314, regarding general: i cannot access my system settings to be marked as do

Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev -> libgd2-dev transition

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Guillem Jover wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 22:34:36 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> Two things has happened with GD Library: >> >> 1. I have dropped the {xpm,noxpm} dichotomy and there's only >>libgd2-dev now. There are transitional packages which are m

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 15 May 2013, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > This new "Extends" field would imply that all meta-data (including other > > missing control fields) is shared with the bar package and at build-time > > it transparently gets a supplementary "Depends: bar (= )" but > > the .deb would not have any

Re: Temporary solution for changelog problem in binNMUs

2013-05-15 Thread Helmut Grohne
Small side note on this interesting idea: On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 09:59:31AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The other points are more difficult to solve but would be useful in their > own to avoid the problem of small packages considered too heavy due to > their meta-data. It might be worth to th

Bug#708333: ITP: view3dscene -- 3D scene viewer written with FreePascal & Lazarus

2013-05-15 Thread Abou Al Montacir
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: castle-game Version: 1.0.0 Upstream Author: Michalis Kamburelis URL: http://castle-engine.sourceforge.net/castle.php License: GPL-2 Description: 3D Castle Game - 3D game

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 14 mai 2013 à 23:26 +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > For better or for worse, sysvinit provides a lot of modularity. systemd > provides none of that modularity Maybe you should read a bit about systemd before saying such nonsense. The real-world systemd (not the imaginary software yo

Bug#708332: ITP: php-apcu -- APC (Alternative PHP Cache) User Cache

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" * Package name: php-apcu Version : 4.0.1 Upstream Author : Joe Watkins * URL : http://pecl.php.net/package/APCu * License : The PHP License, version 3.01 Programming Lang: C Description : APC (Alter

Bug#708329: ITP: php-yac -- YAC (Yet Another Cache) for PHP 5

2013-05-15 Thread Ondřej Surý
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ondřej Surý" * Package name: php-yac Version : 0~gitf7e74e Upstream Author : Xinchen Hui * URL : https://github.com/laruence/yac * License : The PHP License, version 3.01 Programming Lang: C Description : YAC (Ye