Re: "X-" Prefixes deprecated by RFC 6648.

2012-09-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 02:51:41 AM Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Hey. > > Apart from the question whether this RFC is anyhow reasonable... > > On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 08:55 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Category: Best Current Practice > > Can a BCP deprecate stuff which is standard

Re: "X-" Prefixes deprecated by RFC 6648.

2012-09-12 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey. Apart from the question whether this RFC is anyhow reasonable... On Thu, 2012-09-13 at 08:55 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Category: Best Current Practice Can a BCP deprecate stuff which is standardised by RFCs from the standards track? Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME crypt

Re: "X-" Prefixes deprecated by RFC 6648.

2012-09-12 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 13 September 2012 00:55, Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to share with you the recently published RFC 6648, which > deprecates the use of "X-" prefixes in "application protocols" > > BEST CURRENT PRACTICE > > Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)P. Saint-

"X-" Prefixes deprecated by RFC 6648.

2012-09-12 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, I would like to share with you the recently published RFC 6648, which deprecates the use of "X-" prefixes in "application protocols" BEST CURRENT PRACTICE Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)P. Saint-Andre Request for Comments: 6648 Cisco

Re: question about section and name of a manpage

2012-09-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:47:38PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Hi, > > In short, I would like to describe environment variables that > can modify the behavior of a library. > How should I name the manpage ? libXX ? libXX.so ? libXX.so.1 ? XX ? I think libXX is preferable (allows for the p

Re: question about section and name of a manpage

2012-09-12 Thread Samuel Thibault
Vincent Danjean, le Wed 12 Sep 2012 22:47:38 +0200, a écrit : > In short, I would like to describe environment variables that > can modify the behavior of a library. > How should I name the manpage ? libXX ? libXX.so ? libXX.so.1 ? XX ? I'd say libXX.so, like we have ld.so. Samuel -- To UNSU

question about section and name of a manpage

2012-09-12 Thread Vincent Danjean
Hi, In short, I would like to describe environment variables that can modify the behavior of a library. How should I name the manpage ? libXX ? libXX.so ? libXX.so.1 ? XX ? In which section should I put this manpage ? (7 ?) Note that I do not want to describe the API of the library. With mo

Re: (fwd) make tar*-pkg considered dangerous

2012-09-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:11:54PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > I am forwarding this as a remider that, should we ever get to the point of > moving around /lib or /usr/lib, /sbin or /usr/sbin, and /bin or /usr/sbin, > as well as any other such trunks, we really ought to consider whet

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 11:03 +0100, Darac Marjal a écrit : >> Isn't the whole concept of "default desktop" just a matter of "which >> desktop is included on CD1"? Are you proposing that Debian switches to a >> series of "CD1s" (Deb

(fwd) make tar*-pkg considered dangerous

2012-09-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
I am forwarding this as a remider that, should we ever get to the point of moving around /lib or /usr/lib, /sbin or /usr/sbin, and /bin or /usr/sbin, as well as any other such trunks, we really ought to consider whether we should be using symlinks or bind mounts [where possible] for such moves. Al

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi: On 12/09/12 16:36, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: On 12/09/2012 15:53, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Claiming that ``What is on CD1 is really anecdotic, since most people use (or should use) the netinst'' really sounds as claim of a newbie who has never installed Debian on a computer. So do not be

Re: Files-Excluded field and security implications of uscan and debian/copyright.

2012-09-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:45:07 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 07:11:20PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > > > like calls because system does not return the number of files. > > I'm attaching a small example that uses File::Find for this purpose. > Do I understand you correctl

Bug#687419: devscripts: Enabling uscan to choose compression method when repackaging upstream source

2012-09-12 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: devscripts Version: 2.10.69+squeeze2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi, as it was requested on debian-devel (for instance in[1]) an option to influence the compression method when a repackaging is done by uscan (either by using --repack option or when regarding the Files-Excluded field i

Re: Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-09-12 16:51:35 +0200 (+0200), Rene Engelhard wrote: > Still it needs to ship a changelog.gz. Which it doesn't. [...] Agreed, and someone's already filed a bug on the missing metadata bits. -- { IRL(Jeremy_Stanley); WWW(http://fungi.yuggoth.org/); PGP(43495829); WHOIS(STANL3-ARIN); SMTP(fu

Re: Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
On 2012-09-12 16:04:02 +0200 (+0200), Emmanuel Kasper wrote: >> After doing an upgrade from debian 6 to 7, the packge xmess-sdl is >> list as installed but does not contains any file at all. [...] > According to the package description, xmess-sdl is now a transitional dummy package depending on th

Re: Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 02:17:05PM +, The Fungi wrote: > According to the package description, xmess-sdl is now a > transitional dummy package depending on the new mess package. In > fact, the unrelated bug report you linked even mentions that. This > is how package renames are generally suppos

Re: Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread David Prévot
Hi, Le 12/09/2012 10:04, Emmanuel Kasper a écrit : > I don't see anything suspicious in /var/log/dpkg.log, I have no clues > about what could cause that or where to get a debug mode. Where shoud I > look for ? Look at similar bug reports e.g. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=6856

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 12/09/2012 15:53, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Claiming that ``What is on CD1 is really anecdotic, since most people use (or > should > use) the netinst'' really sounds as claim of a newbie who has never installed > Debian > on a computer. So do not be surprised to get newbie like responses. > Othe

Re: Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-09-12 16:04:02 +0200 (+0200), Emmanuel Kasper wrote: > After doing an upgrade from debian 6 to 7, the packge xmess-sdl is > list as installed but does not contains any file at all. [...] According to the package description, xmess-sdl is now a transitional dummy package depending on the ne

Bug#687415: ITP: python-swiftclient -- Client libary for Openstack Swift API

2012-09-12 Thread Mehdi Abaakouk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mehdi Abaakouk * Package name: python-swiftclient Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Openstack * URL : https://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient * License : Apache-2 Programming Lang: Python Description : Cl

Need advice about a package installing no files at all

2012-09-12 Thread Emmanuel Kasper
Hello After doing an upgrade from debian 6 to 7, the packge xmess-sdl is list as installed but does not contains any file at all. ( http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685470 ) (s2w)root@dakar:/# dpkg -L xmess-sdl /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/xmess-sdl /usr/share/

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 12/09/12 13:38, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 12:40 +0200, Jerome BENOIT a écrit : What does it happen when no internet connection is available (no access to internet, no supported driver for the net card) ? This case is certainly as anecdotic as CD1, but somehow

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:03:33PM +0200, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > Let's acknowledge that the gnome-* prefix means "to be used mostly in > the GNOME Desktop environment" and not "officially endorsed by GNOME". > Or something like that. We need to distinguish between what the situation is no

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 13:34:38, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 13:39 +0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > > Assuming a user that has no idea what Gnome/KDE/Xfce/LXDE or even a > > "Desktop Environment" is, what should happen if the user makes no choice > > at all? > > What w

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-12 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wookey writes: > And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and > gpxviewer and memphis. Hey you forgot monav :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://list

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 01:34:38PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 13:39 +0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > > Assuming a user that has no idea what Gnome/KDE/Xfce/LXDE or even a > > "Desktop Environment" is, what should happen if the user makes no choice > > at al

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 12:40 +0200, Jerome BENOIT a écrit : > What does it happen when no internet connection is available (no access to > internet, > no supported driver for the net card) ? > This case is certainly as anecdotic as CD1, but somehow in this situation CD1 > can be very use

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 13:39 +0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > Assuming a user that has no idea what Gnome/KDE/Xfce/LXDE or even a > "Desktop Environment" is, what should happen if the user makes no choice > at all? What we have now: a sensible default. -- .''`. Josselin Mouett

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-12 Thread Wookey
+++ Tzafrir Cohen [2012-09-12 10:32 +]: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > >

packages, uses dbconfig-common and mysql/postgresql installation order.

2012-09-12 Thread Alexander Golovko
Hi! bacula-director-pgsql package has a bug #605449 - package can be setup after postgresql installation and dbconfig-common fail to configure database. I try to see, how this problem solved in other packages and can't find answer. For example, roundcube-mysql, cacti, drupal6 not affected this bu

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 12/09/12 12:16, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 11:03 +0100, Darac Marjal a écrit : Isn't the whole concept of "default desktop" just a matter of "which desktop is included on CD1"? Are you proposing that Debian switches to a series of "CD1s" (Debian Ghome Edition, D

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 12 sep 12, 12:16:50, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > So the real question is being able to choose the desktop from the > installer instead of having to pre-seed this choice. Assuming a user that has no idea what Gnome/KDE/Xfce/LXDE or even a "Desktop Environment" is, what should happen if the

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-12 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:28:16AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Luca Capello [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]: > > > Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'. > > > > except the 'm' on "osm" is already a "map", so may

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 11:03 +0100, Darac Marjal a écrit : > Isn't the whole concept of "default desktop" just a matter of "which > desktop is included on CD1"? Are you proposing that Debian switches to a > series of "CD1s" (Debian Ghome Edition, Debian KDE Edition, Debian XFCE > Edition

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:02:28AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Wookey wrote: > > > I'd be happy if xfce was the default. > > I would be happy if we threw away the concept of a "default desktop" > and left that choice to people who do installs or downloading of live

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Paul Wise (12/09/2012): > I would be happy if we threw away the concept of a "default desktop" > and left that choice to people who do installs or downloading of live > images. [patch needed] Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:20:17 +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: > >> If the Debian maintainer uses the 3.0 format, the debian/ directory is > >> magically removed from the upstream tarball anyway. > > Right, but it's still annyoing when importing into a VCS. > git import-orig --filter=debian/ might help

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 12 septembre 2012 à 08:15 +, Sune Vuorela a écrit : > On 2012-09-12, Paul Wise wrote: > > I would be happy if we threw away the concept of a "default desktop" > > and left that choice to people who do installs or downloading of live > > images. > > yes please. Seconded. -- .'

Re: New upstream version of velvet contains debian/ dir

2012-09-12 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 12/09/2012 05:29, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:33:28 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> If the Debian maintainer uses the 3.0 format, the debian/ directory is >> magically removed from the upstream tarball anyway. > > Right, but it's still annyoing when importing into a VCS.

Re: Gnome classic mode

2012-09-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2012-09-12, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Wookey wrote: > >> I'd be happy if xfce was the default. > > I would be happy if we threw away the concept of a "default desktop" > and left that choice to people who do installs or downloading of live > images. yes please. /Sune