Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 02 Sep 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: > > That certainly seems a bit cleaner than assuming we know what the dpkg > > database looks like it. However the manual page says 'Warning: this > > command is deprecated, please switch to use --control-list and > > --control-show instead.' Those

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Michael Tokarev
On 02.09.2012 23:54, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 23:17 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > [...] >> But the OP system does not have old autofs5 package installed, >> only the config files from it, and the maintscripts. Which is >> exactly the problem. >> >> I want to ensure that if ol

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Langasek wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > # in autofs.postinst > > rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/autofs5.postrm > > (There may be a cleaner way to do this.) > > if postrm=$(dpkg-query -c autofs5 postrm 2>/dev/null); then > rm -f "$postrm" > fi > > Not sure about cleaner, but that's the su

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 11:26:34PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > if postrm=$(dpkg-query -c autofs5 postrm 2>/dev/null); then > > rm -f "$postrm" > > fi > > Not sure about cleaner, but that's the supported dpkg interface. > That certainly seems a bit cleaner than assuming we know what the dp

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 14:04 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 08:54:39PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 23:17 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > > [...] > > > But the OP system does not have old autofs5 package installed, > > > only the config files from it,

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Ansgar Burchardt has written on Sunday, 2 September, at 22:04: >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" writes: >> Tell me, please, how I can achieve the inclusion of stable version of >> libfm/pcmanfm into next debian release? BTW, next release of Ubuntu will >> have 1.0 (or even 1.0.1) versions i

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Neil Williams has written on Sunday, 2 September, at 21:51: >On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 22:33:14 +0300 >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: >> You may hate me saying this but that's sad fact. If you think it's normal >> then I'll shut up and let users ask you why their bugreports are never >> fixed

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 08:54:39PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 23:17 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > [...] > > But the OP system does not have old autofs5 package installed, > > only the config files from it, and the maintscripts. Which is > > exactly the problem. > > I wa

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 22:33:14 +0300 "Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: > >>The version libfm 0.1.17 > >> and pcmanfm 0.9.10 have few tens of critical bugs. Some of them are: > > >None of which appear to have been filed against the Debian packages. It > >could be that no-one else has experienced such pro

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
"Andrej N. Gritsenko" writes: > Tell me, please, how I can achieve the inclusion of stable version of > libfm/pcmanfm into next debian release? BTW, next release of Ubuntu will > have 1.0 (or even 1.0.1) versions included. Why debian should not? There were a few mails about libfm 1.0 on lxde-

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 23:17 +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: [...] > But the OP system does not have old autofs5 package installed, > only the config files from it, and the maintscripts. Which is > exactly the problem. > > I want to ensure that if old autofs5 is installed, installing > new autofs sh

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Neil Williams has written on Sunday, 2 September, at 19:17: >On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:30:31 +0300 >"Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: >>The version libfm 0.1.17 >> and pcmanfm 0.9.10 have few tens of critical bugs. Some of them are: >None of which appear to have been filed against the Debian

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Michael Tokarev
On 02.09.2012 21:21, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: [] >> Basically I want to ensure that if one installs package B to >> a system with A installed, A should be upgraded to A' at the >> same time. This works when upgrading A to A' (satisfying A' >> dependency and installing B), but does not work when

Re: libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 20:30:31 +0300 "Andrej N. Gritsenko" wrote: >The version libfm 0.1.17 > and pcmanfm 0.9.10 have few tens of critical bugs. Some of them are: None of which appear to have been filed against the Debian packages. It could be that no-one else has experienced such problems or the p

libfm and pcmanfm in debian

2012-09-02 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! There is a problem with libfm and pcmanfm that are coming into next stable debian release. Those are much outdated. The version libfm 0.1.17 and pcmanfm 0.9.10 have few tens of critical bugs. Some of them are: - lock up of X server on drag & drop operation; - frequent random crash

Re: Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi Michael On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 02:18:56PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > It's been not once when I hit an issue described below. > Now I hit it in one of the packages I maintain, but so > far I can't figure out a good solution for it. > > The issue is with package renaming and handling of dp

Bug#686508: ITP: libshout-idjc -- broadcast streaming library with IDJC extensions

2012-09-02 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: libshout-idjc Version : 2.3.0 Upstream Author : Stephen Fairchild * URL : http://idjc.sourceforge.net * License : LGPL-2 Programming Lang: C Description : broadcast streaming libra

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 09/02/12 20:43, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > Hi! > Just for the record (and I might be wrong with this information, > because I don't have it from a "official" Gentoo source): > I heard from a Gentoo dev that they will switch from OpenRC to > systemd, No. > and find the possibility very funny that

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-09-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 2 septembre 2012 12:10 CEST, Thomas Goirand  : >>> Not only this. I want it on a RAID10 or RAID5 which goes faster than >>> my / that is hosted in a slower RAID1. >> >> Okay, this is where you stopped making sense. >> >> RAID1 is *not* slower than RAID5. On the contrary. Think about it: > >

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Hi! Just for the record (and I might be wrong with this information, because I don't have it from a "official" Gentoo source): I heard from a Gentoo dev that they will switch from OpenRC to systemd, and find the possibility very funny that Gentoo switches to systemd from OpenRC and Debian switches

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-09-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 09/02/2012 03:57 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 02:29:20AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 08/31/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: I guess I can understand that you want your /usr to be resizeable Not only this. I want it on a RAID10 or RAID5 which goes faster th

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-09-02 Thread Matthew Woodcraft
Steve Langasek wrote: > Matthew Woodcraft wrote: >> Debian has supported booting from md RAID without using an initramfs for >> a very long time. > True but misleading. LILO supported it because it hard-coded the block list > of the kernel and initrd at install time. GRUB1 never supported any RAI

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 01 septembre 2012 à 12:28 +0800, Thomas Goirand a écrit : > It goes from a more manageable code (for some parts, the same > feature as in systemd, but with a code that is 5 times smaller), Code size is a compelling argument only with the same set of features. Which is not the case. > to

Renaming packages: maintscripts

2012-09-02 Thread Michael Tokarev
Hello. It's been not once when I hit an issue described below. Now I hit it in one of the packages I maintain, but so far I can't figure out a good solution for it. The issue is with package renaming and handling of dpkg maintscripts. Having in mind typical renaming scenario: package A has been

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-09-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 09/02/2012 03:57 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 02:29:20AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 08/31/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: >>> I guess I can understand that you want your /usr to be resizeable >> >> Not only this. I want it on a RAID10 or RAID5 which goes fas

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 31 août 2012 à 19:34 +0300, Serge a écrit : > Yeah, one init system, one kernel, one libc, one distribution, one > window manager, one OS. Looks like a windows-way. :) There’s a huge difference between being able to switch between window managers and to switch between init/kernel/libc.

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi again, On Sonntag, 2. September 2012, Svante Signell wrote: > I am completely calm. And I do apologise, I am sorry for suggesting that > somebody steps down from the project. That was wrong, admitted. thanks! (a lot.) > However, for the statement above, calling everything not in line with >

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2012-09-01 at 22:59 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Svante Signell wrote: > >On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 19:34 +0300, Serge wrote: > >> 2012/8/31 Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > >> Linux is still not about choice? Then let's make it be about choice! ... > >> > As for Debian not being universal, this

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-09-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hey Svante, On Samstag, 1. September 2012, Svante Signell wrote: > Maybe you, Josselin, should step down from working on Debian. It looks > like your priorities are not in line with the Debian goals and the > Debian contract any longer. Whatever the consequences will be. Svante, maybe you should

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-09-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 02:29:20AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 08/31/2012 11:52 PM, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > I guess I can understand that you want your /usr to be resizeable > > Not only this. I want it on a RAID10 or RAID5 which goes faster than > my / that is hosted in a slower RAID1.

Bug#686485: ITP: license-reconcile -- Reconcile license/copyright between package source and debian/copyright file

2012-09-02 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicholas Bamber * Package name: license-reconcile Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Nicholas Bamber * URL : https://github.com/periapt/license-reconcile * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description : Reconci

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-09-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 09:28:11PM +0300, Serge wrote: > 2012/8/30 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >> How do you suppose it's possible to undo arbitrary network > >> configuration done by arbitrary set of tools when there's no central > >> place to hold such information (and can't possibly be)? > > > >