Re: Apologies, false alarm

2012-05-22 Thread Thomas Koch
Tomas Fasth: > Hi Thomas, > > I sent you an answer 7th of May, see below. > > Regards, Tomas I'm sorry. Please accept my appologies for this false alarm! Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble

Re: zlib and biarch/triarch

2012-05-22 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:14:49PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I thought one is supposed to use Multi-Arch now, and that > biarch/triarch can finally go away. > Seeing the trouble broonie has with zlib, why are those > packages still built anyway? Can’t they please go away? zlib is rather low

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, May 22, 2012 at 04:01:29PM +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 01:25:21PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Ben Hutchings dixit: > > > > >> > Eventually (wheezy+2? +3?) we would stop building a kernel package for > > >> > i386. > > >> > > >> As in drop the i386 arch?

Assumptions when processing triggers (was [pkg-mono-group] Bug#671711: monodoc-browser: fails to upgrade) from 'testing'

2012-05-22 Thread Iain Lane
Greetings, [ I already asked this on d-dpkg, but go no response, so am "re-posting" this question to -devel. The original report along with full log is in #671711 ] On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:37:53AM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: > […] > Hi, > > during a test with piuparts I noticed your pa

Re: [MIA?] Tomas Fasth, Maintainer of Termit et al

2012-05-22 Thread Tomas Fasth
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Koch skrev 2012-05-22 09:18: > Hi, > > I'm not sure, whether I should ask here. I already wrote a mail to Tomas Fasth > some weeks ago (I believe, can't find it anymore). I'd like to fix some of the > issues in the termit package. > > But there

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 01:30:30PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > The correct solution here is that the MTA that supports 8BITMIME > itself and wants to send an 8-bit message to another MTA that > doesn’t offer it in the EHLO dialogue (or doesn’t support EHLO) > *must* convert the message to QP an

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:51:17PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 09:18:21PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > On 2012-05-22 20:40 +0200, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > On 22/05/12 19:24, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > > > >> and anything that uses libx86 won't work either (#492470). ..

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 08:08:29PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Hm, 2035 or thereabounds sounds good. ;-) Then let’s talk again. Are you volunteering to maintain the i386 architecture until 2035, or volunteering Ben to do it? ☺ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.or

Bug#674074: ITP: tinyxml2 -- C++ XML parsing library

2012-05-22 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chow Loong Jin * Package name: tinyxml2 Version : 0~git20120518.1.a2ae54e Upstream Author : Lee Thomason * URL : http://www.grinninglizard.com/tinyxml2/ * License : zlib/libpng Programming Lang: C++ Description :

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ben Hutchings dixit: >> >> As in drop the i386 arch? >> > >> >No, keep i386 userland only. >> >> Oh, definitely not! Please keep this runnable on at least >> machines such as Soekris (486-compatible), Pentium-M, etc. > >For ever and ever and ever? Hm, 2035 or thereabounds sounds good. ;-) Then l

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Guillem Jover dixit: >> Ah, no, don’t use ar to create .deb files. >> >> http://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20110818-tg-g10046.htm > >Using binutils' ar should be considered supported, and works fine with >dpkg-deb and dpkg, the accepted format is documented in deb(5). I'd The problem is t

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 09:18:21PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2012-05-22 20:40 +0200, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > On 22/05/12 19:24, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > >> and anything that uses libx86 won't work either (#492470). > > > > Is this the right bug? According to the reporter's reportbug Sys

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2012-05-20 at 14:03:35 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > > On 2012-05-20 11:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Slightly OT but I wanted to mention it for its similarity: > > > > > > One thing that should be tested and then do

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 12:47:01 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Guillem Jover dixit: > > the archive override. And if we have to keep changing the packages > > anyway to make sure they match changing priorities, we might as well > > just set the compressor (to gzip) explicitly for base packages. >

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-22 20:40 +0200, Simon McVittie wrote: > On 22/05/12 19:24, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> and anything that uses libx86 won't work either (#492470). > > Is this the right bug? According to the reporter's reportbug System > Information, he's running libx86/i386 on one of the i386 kernel > flav

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Simon McVittie
On 22/05/12 19:24, Sven Joachim wrote: >> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 07:27:21PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >>> We have still some software that doesn't work with 64-bit kernel, >>> and (worse!) some maintainers claiming it's not a bug. > The most prominent example is probably virtualbox (#456391) That

Re: SV: Moving the target of localization pokes (and eventually NMUs)...

2012-05-22 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Joe Dalton (joedalt...@yahoo.dk): > pages doesn't seem to have been updated since may 2 ? This has been fixed on i18n.debian.org as of yesterday and the l10n web pages have been refreshed with this data. And, of course, here comes the bad news: - mysql-5.5 has two fuzzies because of triv

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-22 20:03 +0200, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 07:27:21PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> * Ben Hutchings , 2012-05-20, 03:16: >> >5. Installer for i386 prefers amd64 kernel on any capable machine >> >(that's a one-line change!) and adds amd64 as secondary >> >architecture i

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2012-05-22 at 12:44:02 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Adam Borowski dixit: > >using the attached script. > > Ah, no, don’t use ar to create .deb files. > > http://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20110818-tg-g10046.htm Using binutils' ar should be considered supported, and works fine

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 07:27:21PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Ben Hutchings , 2012-05-20, 03:16: > >5. Installer for i386 prefers amd64 kernel on any capable machine > >(that's a one-line change!) and adds amd64 as secondary > >architecture if this is selected. > > We have still some software th

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Ben Hutchings , 2012-05-20, 03:16: 5. Installer for i386 prefers amd64 kernel on any capable machine (that's a one-line change!) and adds amd64 as secondary architecture if this is selected. We have still some software that doesn't work with 64-bit kernel, and (worse!) some maintainers clai

Re: future of python-pipeline package

2012-05-22 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Dmitry Nezhevenko , 2012-05-16, 11:57: I'm trying to package a ReviewBoard package that depends on django-pipeline module. Unfortunately there is already another package named python-pipeline in debian that uses same python module name (pipeline). This another package is orphaned for a year:

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 01:25:21PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Ben Hutchings dixit: > > >> > Eventually (wheezy+2? +3?) we would stop building a kernel package for > >> > i386. > >> > >> As in drop the i386 arch? > > > >No, keep i386 userland only. > > Oh, definitely not! Please keep this ru

Bug#674010: ITP: python-commodity -- Useful utilities library for Python programmers

2012-05-22 Thread David Villa Alises
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Villa Alises Package name: python-commodity Version : 0.20120514 Upstream Author : David Villa Alises URL : http://bitbucket.org/arco_group/python-commodity License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Descript

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Philipp Kern dixit: >I also assume that Exim does send 8bit mails to non-8bit compliant MTAs (i.e. >not advertising 8BITMIME). I don't know if that's some sort of violation. It does, and it’s a violation, yes. I’ve cursed often enough about that (deliberately running an MTA stripping bit7, for s

Re: amd64 as default architecture

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ben Hutchings dixit: >> > Eventually (wheezy+2? +3?) we would stop building a kernel package for >> > i386. >> >> As in drop the i386 arch? > >No, keep i386 userland only. Oh, definitely not! Please keep this runnable on at least machines such as Soekris (486-compatible), Pentium-M, etc. >> > h

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jon Dowland dixit: >The stuff is things such as "minified" js. The wordpress source contains the >minified copies, and you can get the originals in separate tarballs from the >wordpress site. Eh, I’d call that RC. People have been told off for not including the corresponding source in the .orig.t

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Guillem Jover dixit: >the archive override. And if we have to keep changing the packages >anyway to make sure they match changing priorities, we might as well >just set the compressor (to gzip) explicitly for base packages. Pseudo-essential packages are going to be a problem though. What if a (hy

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski dixit: >using the attached script. Ah, no, don’t use ar to create .deb files. http://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20110818-tg-g10046.htm What you can do is: $ paxtar cAf foo.deb debian-binary control.* data.* It’s in wheezy already. bye, //mirabilos -- [...] if maybe ext3f

Re: zlib and biarch/triarch

2012-05-22 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Andrey Rahmatullin (22/05/2012): > > Seeing the trouble broonie has with zlib, why are those > > packages still built anyway? Can’t they please go away? > What are you talking about? Probably that: http://packages.qa.debian.org/z/zlib.html http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/z/zli

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski dixit: >if udebs switched to xz (unpacking takes ~10MB memory). -2 takes only 3 MiB, which is about 2 MiB more than gzip, since that number is rounded. bye, //mirabilos -- you introduced a merge commit│ % g rebase -i HEAD^^ sorry, no idea and rebasing just fscked │ Segme

Re: /usr/share/doc/ files and gzip/xz/no compression

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Carsten Hey dixit: >IIRC bzip2 had a better compression. Compressing dpkg's changelog on >stable seems confirm this: xz’s default compression level -6 is not good for files smaller than 8 MiB. Try -2 instead, maybe -2e (slower). Besides, it decompresses a lot faster than bzip2, so even in case o

Re: zlib and biarch/triarch

2012-05-22 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:14:49PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Just curious… > > I thought one is supposed to use Multi-Arch now, and that > biarch/triarch can finally go away. > > Seeing the trouble broonie has with zlib, why are those > packages still built anyway? Can’t they please go away

Re: The archive now supports xz compression

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Roger Leigh dixit: >Possibly a stupid question here but: Given that we are now autosigning >builds, why can't the slower arches use gzip, and then after upload >they could be recompressed with xz (and resigned) on a faster arch? xz -2 is fast enough on m68k (IIRC, compresses not worse than bzip2

zlib and biarch/triarch

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Just curious… I thought one is supposed to use Multi-Arch now, and that biarch/triarch can finally go away. Seeing the trouble broonie has with zlib, why are those packages still built anyway? Can’t they please go away? bye, //mirabilos -- “It is inappropriate to require that a time represented

Re: removal of Qt3

2012-05-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/21/2012 09:09 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > >> Does LSB matter? > > LSB is irrelevant to me personally since I'm mostly not interested in > running proprietary software on Linux systems. > > I guess LSB must be relevant to Debian since we ha

[MIA?] Tomas Fasth, Maintainer of Termit et al

2012-05-22 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi, I'm not sure, whether I should ask here. I already wrote a mail to Tomas Fasth some weeks ago (I believe, can't find it anymore). I'd like to fix some of the issues in the termit package. But there's no sign of life of him. Regards, Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em