On 03/16/2012 06:50 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>
> Which decision in particular, and by who?
Anthropologically speaking, folkmoot is a very different system than
top-down rule, but both are among a large variety of systems humans use
to collaboratively build things larger than a single individual. In
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While we strive to get multiarch ready for squeeze, there is currently nothing
to point to what the multiarch tuples actually mean, neither on the Debian side
nor on some kind of standards side like the FHS or LSB. This has to be
documented
On 03/17/2012 06:11 AM, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> 2012/3/11 Mike Hommey
>
>> The problem is: decss is illegal in very much more than just the US.
>> This is a very different situation.
>>
> Orly? Do you know of any law and/or court case backing this assertion?
>
> Romain
>
There is a DMCA
On 03/17/2012 05:15 AM, Jon Dowland wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 04:30:35AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>> Also, why not writing the DVD image on your HDD?
>>
> How'd you loan that to a friend?
>
Are you sure you can lend *a copy* to a friend?
> What exactly are you arguing: tha
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Allison Randal writes:
> On 03/16/2012 06:54 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le vendredi 16 mars 2012 à 14:26 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> >> How are the upstart developers controversial? Did I miss something?
> >
> > Canonical contributor agreement.
>
> Hypothetically, if this went away, wo
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Reinhard Tartler
wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Chris Knadle
wrote:
> >> On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:42:50, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> Friendly discussion with the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org to
> >>> not replace librari
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Andreas Metzler
wrote:
> Philip Hands wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean
>> wrote:
> [...]
>>> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
>>> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
>>
On 16/03/12 21:44, Philip Hands wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:05:25 +0100, Andreas
Metzler wrote:
Philip Hands wrote:
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
[...]
* We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
separate specific tool or at runti
Vincent Danjean dijo [Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 02:37:39PM +0100]:
> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
> This would avoid to be blocked by the syntax/features of one "source"
> init system.
There i
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On Friday, March 16, 2012 16:30:35, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/17/2012 03:16 AM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Friday, March 16, 2012 13:13:30, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> >> Resampling could be termed a derivative work, not a backup copy since
> >> you are throwing away information contained in the
2012/3/11 Mike Hommey
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:16:47AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 03:53:18AM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 01:39:13AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:00:30AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
>
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 20:05:25 +0100, Andreas Metzler
wrote:
> Philip Hands wrote:
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean
> > wrote:
> [...]
> >> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
> >> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init sys
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Chris Knadle
> wrote:
>> On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:42:50, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>> ...
>>> Friendly discussion with the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org to
>>> not replace libraries such as libavc
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D
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 04:30:35AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Also, why not writing the DVD image on your HDD?
How'd you loan that to a friend?
What exactly are you arguing: that someone should never need to resample a DVD?
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:42:50, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> ...
>> Friendly discussion with the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org to
>> not replace libraries such as libavcodec and friends have failed
>> ultimatively (BTW, that is part of
On 03/17/2012 03:16 AM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Friday, March 16, 2012 13:13:30, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
>
>> Resampling could be termed a derivative work, not a backup copy since you
>> are throwing away information contained in the original.
>>
> That may be, but some source media is >
Michael Biebl writes:
> Just for the record: We already have 30+ packages in Debian shipping
> native systemd unit files. For a standard Debian (desktop) installation
> there are not that many sysv init scripts left, that need to be run.
> And the number of native systemd services is continually
On 16.03.2012 19:45, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Lars Wirzenius writes:
>
>> I don't know what should happen next, except someone should take
>> leadership on this issue and find a rough consensus on what we as a
>> project want to do. The usual way of that to happen is for someone to
>> grab a keyboa
On Friday, March 16, 2012 13:13:30, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:20:22PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> > On Thursday, March 15, 2012 16:11:00, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:48:02AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> > > > Why so? If I make a copy for backu
Philip Hands wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean
> wrote:
[...]
>> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
>> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
>> This would avoid to be blocked by the syntax/features of one "
Lars Wirzenius writes:
> I don't know what should happen next, except someone should take
> leadership on this issue and find a rough consensus on what we as a
> project want to do. The usual way of that to happen is for someone to
> grab a keyboard and start writing actual code, as opposed to
>
On Mar 16, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> * We could try to define a file format that allow a conversion (by a
> separate specific tool or at runtime) to various init systems.
> This would avoid to be blocked by the syntax/features of one "source"
> init system.
I doubt that this is possible exce
On 03/16/2012 06:54 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 16 mars 2012 à 14:26 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
>> How are the upstart developers controversial? Did I miss something?
>
> Canonical contributor agreement.
Hypothetically, if this went away, would it have a substantial impact on
th
Marco d'Itri schrieb am Friday, den 16. March 2012:
> On Mar 16, Marc Haber wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:26:35 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> > >The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports,
> > It would really be nice if you could at least try to not plant
> > unnecess
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:20:22PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Thursday, March 15, 2012 16:11:00, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:48:02AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> > > Why so? If I make a copy for backup and want to use it, how would I do
> > > that without use of decss
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:21:14AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 04:11:00PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:48:02AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote:
> > >
> > > Why so? If I make a copy for backup and want to use it, how would I do
> > > that withou
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote:
> Le 16/03/2012 11:14, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> > * We could try to have a tool to automatically convert an upstart or systemd
> > service configuration into a sysvinit init.d script. I have no idea if
> > that
> > is really feasibl
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:02:16 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>On Mar 16, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:26:35 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>> >The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports,
>> It would really be nice if you could at least try to not plant
On Mar 16, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:26:35 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> >The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports,
> It would really be nice if you could at least try to not plant
> unnecessary attacks against people who have a working style different
> f
Vincent Danjean, le Fri 16 Mar 2012 14:37:39 +0100, a écrit :
> Le 16/03/2012 11:14, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> > * We could try to have a tool to automatically convert an upstart or systemd
> > service configuration into a sysvinit init.d script. I have no idea if
> > that
> > is really feasi
On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:26:35 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports,
It would really be nice if you could at least try to not plant
unnecessary attacks against people who have a working style different
from yours in every second message you wr
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:48:47 +0100, Stephan Seitz
wrote:
>If I want „cool” Linux things, then I don’t use a distribution
>which is proud to be a cross-platform distribution.
Amen.
Greetings
Marc
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Le vendredi 16 mars 2012 à 14:26 +0100, Marco d'Itri a écrit :
> How are the upstart developers controversial? Did I miss something?
Canonical contributor agreement.
> The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports, and by now I think it
> is clear that nobody has plans to write it.
Fully a
Le 16/03/2012 11:14, Lars Wirzenius a écrit :
> * We could try to have a tool to automatically convert an upstart or systemd
> service configuration into a sysvinit init.d script. I have no idea if that
> is really feasible, but if it worked for most packages, we could probably
> live with th
On Mar 16, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> They have some technical and other differences, and have upstream
> developers who can be considered controversial in various ways by
> various people in Debian.
How are the upstart developers controversial? Did I miss something?
> it yet. (As a side n
Ergh, I got sysvinit and systemd mixed in some places. We should
ban from Debian more than one program starting with the same letter.
Thanks, Dave, for pointing this out to me quickly.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:14:53AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> * The two main event based contenders are upsta
There is a lot of feelings and temper involved in the current discussion
of init implementations in Debian. I'd like to try to de-escalate by
summarizing things in as objective and non-confrontational manner as I can.
* sysvinit is mostly working for everyone, but it has problems, in part
caused
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