Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote: > * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there are > multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I want to > maintain it, doesn't magically buy you a slot into the archive) There's nothing to buy... onl

Re: Bug#598406: ITP: vavoom -- The most advanced Doom/Heretic/Hexen/Strife source port around!

2011-05-06 Thread gustavo panizzo
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 09:57:59AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > [ Cc: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org FYI ] > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 04:14:11PM -0300, gustavo panizzo wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: gustavo panizzo > > > > > > * Package name: vavoom > > Ve

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-06 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:38 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:14:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > > - Doing an NMU without trying to contact the maintainer beforehand could be > > considered an aggressive behaviour, or a way to "punish" the maintainer > > for

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-06 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:14:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > - Doing an NMU without trying to contact the maintainer beforehand could be > considered an aggressive behaviour, or a way to "punish" the maintainer for > not addressing bugs as fast as one would like. We are trying hard to f

Unofficial Debian Monthly Testing Snapshot Release (version 2011.05)

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Gilbert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, I am pleased to announce the unofficial Debian monthly testing snapshot release for May 2011 (version 2011.05). This release is currently available in two flavors, i386 and amd64, as mini iso images (16 MiB each) downloadable from: http://

0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, In , the release team writes: > 0-day NMU policy > > For some time now, we have had a perpetual 0-day NMU policy, and some > discussion [LDO:0day] was had a while ago. We feel that this has worked > well for

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Chris Warburton wrote: > Hi Scott. ocPortal isn't massively widespread compared to other systems, > so there's obviously less experimental proof of security. We had a > security hole a few years ago; this was before I got involved, but > there's details here http://en.wikipedia

Re: Any Debian devs near New Orleans? (need gpg keysigs)

2011-05-06 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi David, On 06.05.2011 22:45, David Bruce wrote: > I'd > like to get my gpg key signed by some more Debian developers to build > up the web of trust. You might want to check [1] for DDs coming closest to your location and offering key signatures.

Any Debian devs near New Orleans? (need gpg keysigs)

2011-05-06 Thread David Bruce
Hi, I hope this topic is acceptable for this list. I'm upstream for two packages in Debian (tuxmath and tuxtype), and I've started gpg-signing the releases, which I think Debian considers highly desirable. I'd like to get my gpg key signed by some more Debian developers to build up the web of tr

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Gilbert
Patrick Strasser wrote: > schrieb Josselin Mouette am 2011-05-03 17:22: > > Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 15:56 +0200, Patrick Strasser a écrit : > > > Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pile that no one > > ever reads, since there are no real maintainers for poppler. > > Now that'

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 08:33:27PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > I'm curious though, why is there an objection against CMS inclusions in > general? When there are many packages which provide similar functionality (whether that is a CMS, a window manager, or whatever) then it's reasonable to

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 20:30:32 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:03 +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > > On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wro

Re: this list archive spoils e-mails + strange Enigmail typos

2011-05-06 Thread Bjørn Mork
Stanisław Findeisen writes: > Well but the quoted text *is* there... (at least in the copy I received > from liszt.debian.org). Both problems (missing text and visible =20) are caused by MIME headers missing from the first part of your message. The quoted text is hidden because there is no empt

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 14:54 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed > > package. > > Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies. Welcome. > > Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for pac

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed > package. Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies. > Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for packager to say he will be > responsive to problems? Packages, once uploaded, en

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Gilbert
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 06:50:04PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > Look at the "welcoming new contributors" GR; what did that actually > > accomplish? There isn't anything new to show for it, there are no new > > means to bring contributors in, and the number of new

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:56 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > We can stop CCing the bug# now, as this subthread is apparently no > longer about the ITP itself, but about "proper" conduct in discussing an > ITP. > > On 05/06/2011 01:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > Strange that you read 'support'

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:03 +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > > Q: How many content management systems written in php d

Re: this list archive spoils e-mails + strange Enigmail typos

2011-05-06 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
On 2011-05-06 19:04, Niels Thykier wrote: > On 2011-05-06 18:52, StanisBaw Findeisen wrote: >> On 2011-05-06 12:18, StanisBaw Findeisen wrote: >>> Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) >>> >>> Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only >>> looks more secure than lett

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
We can stop CCing the bug# now, as this subthread is apparently no longer about the ITP itself, but about "proper" conduct in discussing an ITP. On 05/06/2011 01:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Strange that you read 'support' into my responses. By support, I hope you understand I mean the De

Re: this list archive spoils e-mails + strange Enigmail typos

2011-05-06 Thread Niels Thykier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2011-05-06 18:52, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > On 2011-05-06 12:18, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: >> Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) >> >> Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only >> looks more secure than lett

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? > > > A: How about zero? > > > > > > Not exactl

this list archive spoils e-mails + strange Enigmail typos

2011-05-06 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
On 2011-05-06 12:18, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) > > Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only > looks more secure than letting everyone do it... Is there any particular > reason Debian GNU/Linux is so permissive by default? >

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 12:20:17PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 06 May 2011, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > > Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only > > looks more secure than letting everyone do it... Is there any particular > > reason Debian GNU/L

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? > A: How about zero? > > Not exactly helpful. When developers are passionately opposed to a particular technology (and not without reason here, I think,) they can be a bit

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? > > A: How about zero? > > > > Not exactly helpful. > > When developers are passionately opposed to a particula

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > > > Programming Lang: PHP > > > > Descri

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:14 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:00 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in > > > Debian, instead of hunting for it upstrea

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > > > Programming Lang: PHP > > > > Descri

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > > Programming Lang: PHP > > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for > > > buil

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > Programming Lang: PHP > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building > > and maintaining a dynamic website > > How many content management syst

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Stanisław Findeisen wrote: > > Because we do not enable pam_wheel by default, so it is not needed by > > default. > > Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) Then ask it directly :-p > Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only > looks more secu

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:00 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in > > Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then > > it can easily be removed again (or le

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > Programming Lang: PHP > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building > > and maintaining a dynamic website > > How many content management syst

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in > Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then > it can easily be removed again (or left in Unstable). Wrong. Every additional package costs the whol

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:16 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > > Programming Lang: PHP > > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 09:21:08 AM Rens Houben wrote: > In other news for Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:11:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman has been seen typing: > > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > > Programming Lang: PHP > > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Manag

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:11:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman has been seen typing: > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > Programming Lang: PHP > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building > > and maintaining a dynamic website

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : > On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > > Programming Lang: PHP > > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building > > and maintaining a dynamic website > > How many content managem

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: > Programming Lang: PHP > Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building > and maintaining a dynamic website How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Warburton * Package name: ocportal Version : 6.1.1 Upstream Author : Chris Graham * URL : http://www.ocportal.com * License : CPAL Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management Syste

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 06 May 2011 12:18:20 +0200, Stanis?aw Findeisen wrote: >On 2011-05-06 01:53, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >> On Fri, 06 May 2011, Stanis=C5=82aw Findeisen wrote: >>> Why is there no wheel group by default in Debian GNU/Linux? >>=20 >> Because we do not enable pam_wheel by default, so

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Sujit Karatparambil
> Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4460/why-is-debian-not-creating-the-wheel-group-by-default > Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only > looks more secure than letting everyone do it... Is there any particular > reas

Re: wheel group

2011-05-06 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
Heh, that's what this question is about. :-) Restricting certain privileges (like su root) to certain users only looks more secure than letting everyone do it... Is there any particular reason Debian GNU/Linux is so permissive by default? --=20 Eisenbits - proven software solutions: http://www.ei

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-06 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/04/2011 11:48 AM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > While I can sympathize with this (it's what I want as a developer), it's > certainly not a good idea in Debian in general: we have many derivatives > taking unstable/testing at various points in time, and we also want to > make testing generally usab

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-06 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 00:36:23 (CEST), Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: >> On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:39:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> Yes, during the freeze I ran into trouble with OpenAFS because I had >>> too many different streams that I wanted to test at the same time.