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2011-04-07 Thread Liliana Silva
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compiling without -O2 ld shared lib errors

2011-04-07 Thread Brian May
Hello, Am trying to compile Heimdal in unstable without -O2 optimization, so I can debug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=618992 To do this, I have inserted the line in debian/rules: CFLAGS := "-g" Unfortunately, when ever I do, I get the following error: /bin/bash ../libtool -

Re: Updating GPG howto (http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html)

2011-04-07 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 10:26:10AM -0700, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > It's not entirely accurate. The point of those lines are to ensure that > older (certainly lenny and earlier, I'm not sure when the default > changed) versions of GnuPG don't use SHA1 when signing keys (either your > own or others

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 21:19, David Paleino wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:14:31 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > >> On 2011-04-07 18:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Dpkg::Post-Invoke would be the right (best available) one. That would >> > call your trigger after every dpkg invocation [..

Bug#621632: O: hyperlatex

2011-04-07 Thread Roland Stigge
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi, I'm orphaning the package hyperlatex. It's unmaintained upstream for years now and it depends on an old emacs version (for emacs lisp in which it is implemented). Therefore, it is RC-buggy now. I'm not a lisp programmer so I won't port it to current emacs23. T

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:00:09 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - On the other hand, a wide open front of the discussion is *when* to > freeze, with various people arguing in favor of having a specific > period, such as "we freeze on $month every even/odd year". Count me in. > - ... what to

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > On 2011-04-07 18:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Dpkg::Post-Invoke would be the right (best available) one. That would > > call your trigger after every dpkg invocation [...] > > This is not true, 'Dpkg::*-Invoke' script chain are called once >

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2011-04-07 21:19, David Paleino wrote: > > This is not true, 'Dpkg::*-Invoke' script chain are called once > > before/after all dpkg invocations. > > So it's just like a trigger monitoring /? (without the implications of > triggers > in terms of sequence of operations) No, I phrased it badly

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 22:14:31 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > On 2011-04-07 18:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Dpkg::Post-Invoke would be the right (best available) one. That would > > call your trigger after every dpkg invocation [...] > > This is not true, 'Dpkg::*-Invoke' script chain ar

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, David Paleino wrote: > "Only" those installing executables in these directories: I know, I do not have stats but I expect this to be a very important percentage of packages. > Unfortunately, I have to remove and re-create all the symlinks upon trigger > activation: in fact, o

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2011-04-07 18:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Dpkg::Post-Invoke would be the right (best available) one. That would > call your trigger after every dpkg invocation [...] This is not true, 'Dpkg::*-Invoke' script chain are called once before/after all dpkg invocations. > But those hooks would

Re: MBF Re: Bug#621277: ggz-grubby: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2011-04-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:13:43 +0200 Andreas Metzler wrote: Forgot to add, the current version of the script is here: http://people.debian.org/~codehelp/la-file-bugs.pl.txt (simply because it was convenient for me to work on the script from more than one machine) I've not updated that with the ver

Re: MBF Re: Bug#621277: ggz-grubby: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2011-04-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 19:13:43 +0200 Andreas Metzler wrote: > On 2011-04-06 codeh...@debian.org wrote: > > Package: ggz-grubby > > Severity: normal > > User: codeh...@debian.org > > Usertags: la-file-removal > > > To finish an old release goal from Squeeze, to comply with Policy > > 10.2 and to eas

MBF Re: Bug#621277: ggz-grubby: Getting rid of unneeded *.la / emptying dependency_libs

2011-04-07 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2011-04-06 codeh...@debian.org wrote: > Package: ggz-grubby > Severity: normal > User: codeh...@debian.org > Usertags: la-file-removal > To finish an old release goal from Squeeze, to comply with Policy > 10.2 and to ease the introduction of MultiArch, I'm filing bugs > against packages which c

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Luca Capello Hi, | > * do another mass bug filing on all packages that contain bash | > scripts that checkbashisms does not think contain any bashisms | | ...there is no point using #!/bin/bash when the script is | POSIX-compliant, since the default #!/bin/sh on Debian (dash) i

Re: Updating GPG howto (http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html)

2011-04-07 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Vincent Caron wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 01:09 +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:15:15PM +0200, Vincent Caron wrote: > > > 2/ It is suggested to update gnupg.conf with: > > > > > > personal-digest-preferences SHA256 > >

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 05:42:48PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I would love if we can summarize the above part by saying that we have > > consensus on: 1) announcing at the beginning of a release cycle a target > > freeze month, 2) refining it later on. > > I think you're missing step 0: the r

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:00:09PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > [ Bcc:-ing release team ] Why Bcc?! [...] > I would love if we can summarize the above part by saying that we have > consensus on: 1) announcing at the beginning of a release cycle a target > freeze month, 2) refining it later

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-07 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Lars! On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 16:41:14 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On ke, 2011-04-06 at 16:37 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> Obviously, doing these changes earlier rather than later in the release >> cycle would be good, if they are to be done at all. > > OK, so assuming anything is to be done

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-07 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Roger! Please do not Cc: me, I read the list. NB, this reply is maybe too late and useless, but I thought it was better to do that anyway, at least to thank Roger for the time he spent. On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 16:24:28 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 04:06:16PM +0200, Luca Cap

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
David Paleino writes: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:16:20 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> You'd better use some apt hook to do the task you envision. A file >> trigger that is activated for a majority of package installation is >> probably better dealt with such a solution. > > Which hook would you

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Hi Carsten, just a few more comments on your mail which I haven't covered in the separate "summary" mail I've just sent. On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 08:38:18AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > We are in the good position to have a very experienced release team that > is be able to decide whether testing is

Re: time based freezes

2011-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ Bcc:-ing release team ] On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 06:15:52PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Since other follow-ups have avoided this topic up to now, let me be the > reckless guy who jumps into it with both feet: time based freezes! Another thread, another thread summary! Here is a summary ab

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread David Paleino
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 15:16:20 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, David Paleino wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > I've implemented a new revision of bash-completion, which uses > > debtriggers(5) to load only relevant completions, and symlink them when > > something touches /

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 16:33 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Joey Hess writes: > > * pristine-tar cannot be used > > The assumptions of ‘pristine-tar’ seem very Git-centric and are quite at > odds with my chosen VCS (Bazaar). It demands a “treeish object”, I have > no idea what that relates to in Bazaa

Re: throw away debs and source only uploads

2011-04-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
[ Bcc:-ing ftpmasters ] Time to wrap up the current state of this discussion, at least as far as I see it. - going ahead with throw away debs seems to be largely uncontroversial; can we haz zem please? :-) - there seems to be no substantial objections either on the fact the source only uploa

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2011-04-06 at 16:37 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Obviously, doing these changes earlier rather than later in the release > cycle would be good, if they are to be done at all. OK, so assuming anything is to be done about this at all, here's what I suggest: * add a lintian test that

Re: Updating GPG howto (http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html)

2011-04-07 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:15:49PM +0200, Vincent Caron wrote: >That's a nice explanation that would fit on > http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html If someone would like to put it up there, he or she should feel free to do so. > Thanks for your help. Sure. -- brian m. carlson / bri

Nuevos cursos!!! Redes Sociales, Email Marketing y Posicionamiento Google

2011-04-07 Thread Cursos de Google-Olivia Figueroa
El posicionamiento web es una estrategia usada para dar a conocer tu sitio web o marca por internet. El objetivo es tener mayor presencia en la web que tus competidores,y conseguir que tu sitio aparezca en la 1ra. pagina de Google, Yahoo y principales buscadores. Si ya usas Google Adwords, apr

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 07 Apr 2011, David Paleino wrote: > Hello everybody, > I've implemented a new revision of bash-completion, which uses debtriggers(5) > to load only relevant completions, and symlink them when something > touches /usr/bin/, /usr/games/, /usr/sbin/, /sbin/, /bin/, and so on. > > For thi

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/07/2011 10:11 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamMetadata > > The key concept is to store ‘Field: value’ data in a file called > debian/upstream-metadata.yaml, and to access it from the VCS where > the package is stored (that is, not from the source package itself).

Re: Bits from the 4th Debian Groupware Meeting

2011-04-07 Thread Guido Günther
Hi Andrew, On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 06:15:15PM +1200, Andrew McMillan wrote: > Hi Guido, > > I have an interest in calendaring & contacts myself, and while I > probably can't make it to such meetings very often in Europe I'd > appreciate being aware of plans, just in case I can participate in some

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 08:22:06AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > There are lots of upstream-metadata that we might want to have available > and we need to find a proper solution that doesn't involve debian/control. In Debian Med and Debian Science we are just using http://wiki.debian.org/

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Hendrik Sattler, Am 2011-04-07 12:56:33, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > I am also not totally happy about network-manager but I still use it > as it gives me a working wireless network on my laptop without > having to spend hours reading endless documentation and writing > multiple config

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Philip Hands, Am 2011-04-06 10:13:19, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > I think this is the vital difference -- those that prefer ifupdown do so > because they prefer to be in tight control of what is happening on their > systems, whereas those that prefer NM don't want to be bothered about

Re: network-manager as default? No! (was: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy)

2011-04-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Stanislav Maslovski : On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:51:08PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: Am Mittwoch 06 April 2011, 19:05:11 schrieb Stanislav Maslovski: > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:29:05AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > Then you can stack all soft of stuff on top of it, and ge

Re: Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread David Paleino
Hello Goswin, re-putting debian-devel in the loop, since I believe you forgot it. On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 12:20:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > David Paleino writes: > > > Hello everybody, > > I've implemented a new revision of bash-completion, which uses > > debtriggers(5) to load only rel

Re: Shipping /bin/sh [Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?]

2011-04-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Carsten Hey writes: > System shells would (de)register themselves by calling add-system-shell > in postinst and remove-system-shell in prerm. 'system-shell' would also > be a virtual package provided by bash, dash and so on. Although I don't How would that work with (c)debootstrap/multistrap w

Bash-completion with triggers

2011-04-07 Thread David Paleino
Hello everybody, I've implemented a new revision of bash-completion, which uses debtriggers(5) to load only relevant completions, and symlink them when something touches /usr/bin/, /usr/games/, /usr/sbin/, /sbin/, /bin/, and so on. For this to work, the completions have been moved out from /etc/ -

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Joey Hess wrote: > I would instead suggest we deprecate packages not including upstream > source in their VCS. The weight of progress is against that practice; > tools have improved so there is little excuse to do it, it increasingly > violates expections and makes

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:53:55PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > However, is the control file really the right place for that? I guess we > don't have a better place right now, but this doesn't feel like package > metadata that needs to be put into the Sources file. Hi, there is my pet proj

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-07 Thread Philip Hands
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 16:37:28 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: ... > Obviously, checkbashisms is not infallible, so the numbers may well be > off. If I remove all the "not bash" scripts from bash2.list, I get a > much shorter file: http://files.liw.fi/temp/bash2-isbash.list > > Summary: > > 1775 file

Re: More Vcs-Fields in debian/control?

2011-04-07 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette aube naissante du jeudi 07 avril 2011, vers 07:46, Joey Hess disait : >> We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it >> would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to >> be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not impor