Re: Thinking about bundles

2010-09-19 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Raphael, Thanks for the feedback. However I have to say that Debian as a whole cannot have it both ways. Either ftp-master lifts the restriction on small modules or there has to be decent support for "components". I have started work on this (http://github.com/periapt/pkg-components/blo

Re: Bug#597340: dpkg-gencontrol: implicit substvar at the end of every field

2010-09-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >CCing -devel and Joey Hess to have some input on this idea. Do you think > >it would be useful ? Do you have comments and suggestions ? > > I'm uncomfortable with the idea of (even more?) build-time package > settings being hidden away outside of debia

Re: Bug#597340: dpkg-gencontrol: implicit substvar at the end of every field

2010-09-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > >Every time that debhelper needs to adjust a dependency it provides a new >substvar and the maintainer needs to put it in the right field. I was >thinking that we could avoid the second half if some specific substvars >was added at the end of every field. > >dpkg-gencontro

Re: Thinking about bundles

2010-09-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, David Bremner wrote: > Well, OK, I see your point. But what should we do about e.g. tiny perl > modules. My/our impression was that ftp-master was not keen on having > many small packages. For example, libcatalyst-modules-perl has installed > size of 1468k, but bundles 81 modul

Re: ITP: zoo -- a Web Processing Service (WPS) framework

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 09:55:07PM +0200, Alessandro Frigeri wrote: > * Package name: zoo > Description : a Web Processing Service (WPS) framework [~]$ apt-cache show zoo Package: zoo Description: manipulate zoo archives Sorry, the name is already taken. -- 1KB // Microsof

ITP: zoo -- a Web Processing Service (WPS) framework

2010-09-19 Thread Alessandro Frigeri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessandro Frigeri * Package name: zoo Version : none yet, developments on svn/trunk Upstream Author : the ZOO Tribal Council, see project's website * URL : http://www.zoo-project.org/ * License : MIT/X Programming Lan

Bug#597441: ITP: amiri -- Naskh style, typographically oriented font, mainly for printing and running text.

2010-09-19 Thread أحمد المحمودي
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "أحمد المحمودي" * Package name: amiri Version : 0.001 Upstream Author : Khaled Hosny * URL : http://naskh.sf.net * License : OFL Programming Lang: N/A Description : Naskh style, typographically oriented font, ma

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 05:35:03PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 à 16:47 +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit : > > > The infamous maintainer mode *is the default* when you don’t set the > > > macro. > > > > You need to either remove AM_MAINTAINER_MODE from configure.ac o

Re: Bug#597202: ITP: kstars-data-extra-tycho2 -- Contains the Tycho2 star catalog for centralized install, avoiding per-user install

2010-09-19 Thread Noel David Torres Taño
On Domingo 19 Septiembre 2010 13:03:04 Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña escribió: > Hi, > > First of all, please first note there is an informal policy for Stars data > catalogues which is available in the 'stardata-common' package (more info > at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/stardata-common/)

Re: why experimental latest Release file hasn't NotAutomatic: yes

2010-09-19 Thread Mark Hymers
On Sun, 19, Sep, 2010 at 04:45:12PM +0100, Ben Hutchings spoke thus.. > 16:25 < mhy> we accidently lost the NotAutomatic: true field out of the > experimental Release file > 16:25 < mhy> so you'll get the whole of experimental if you apt-get > upgrade; we're fixing it now Should be fixed now - sor

Re: why experimental latest Release file hasn't NotAutomatic: yes

2010-09-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 17:38 +0200, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > Am 19.09.2010 17:17, schrieb Jérémy Lal: > > Suddenly apt wants to upgrade packages to experimental ! > > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release > > Hu? > > m...@gnu:~$ wget -q ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experiment

Re: why experimental latest Release file hasn't NotAutomatic: yes

2010-09-19 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 19.09.2010 17:17, schrieb Jérémy Lal: > Suddenly apt wants to upgrade packages to experimental ! > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release Hu? m...@gnu:~$ wget -q ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release -O /dev/stdout|grep ^NotAutomatic: NotAutomatic: yes m...@gnu

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 à 16:47 +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit : > On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:07:10PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > You must be mistaken by automake’s counter-intuitiveness. > > > > The infamous maintainer mode *is the default* when you don’t set the > > macro. Setting AM

why experimental latest Release file hasn't NotAutomatic: yes

2010-09-19 Thread Jérémy Lal
Suddenly apt wants to upgrade packages to experimental ! ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/experimental/Release Cheers, Jérémy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.d

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 02:07:10PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > The only "benefit" that AM_MAINTAINER_MODE can bring is cleaner deb diffs, > > which can be obtained just as well by removing the modified generated files > > in "debian/rules clean". > > > > In fact, it would be nice to have a

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] "Bernhard R. Link" | > * Debian -- building things from the actual source is one of the core rules | | Especially for Debian maintainer mode is a big win. While it's nice if | the maintainer regulary checks that those files still work with the | current tools and submitts patches to upstream

Re: Bug#597202: ITP: kstars-data-extra-tycho2 -- Contains the Tycho2 star catalog for centralized install, avoiding per-user install

2010-09-19 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
Hi, First of all, please first note there is an informal policy for Stars data catalogues which is available in the 'stardata-common' package (more info at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/stardata-common/). We already provide some star data catalogues (Gliese and Yale which are both non-free) i

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Adam Borowski [100919 10:43]: > Uhm, no. AM_MAINTAINER_MODE is bad for: > * upstream -- it forces manual rebuilds I do not understand this. > * non-distro users -- another issue to watch for while hacking on the >program. As long as they don't modify the autotoolage, they >

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 septembre 2010 à 10:43 +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit : > Uhm, no. AM_MAINTAINER_MODE is bad for: > * upstream -- it forces manual rebuilds > * non-distro users -- another issue to watch for while hacking on the >program. As long as they don't modify the autotoolage, the

Bug#597395: ITP: python-distutils2 -- the new version the the Python Distribute utilities

2010-09-19 Thread Carl Chenet
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Carl Chenet * Package name: python-distutils2 Version : 1.0a2 Upstream Author : Tarek Ziade * URL : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distutils2 * License : PSF Programming Lang: Python Description : the new version t

Bug#597396: ITP: pidgin-gmchess - pidgin integration with gmchess

2010-09-19 Thread Aron Xu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: pidgin-gmchess Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : lerosua * URL : http://code.google.com/p/gmchess/ * Licenses: GPL Programming Lang: C Description : pidgin-g

Re: Update Lenny to Squeeze

2010-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michel, On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 03:00:34PM +0200, Michel wrote: > I have upgrade my Debian Lenny to Debian Squeeze and I don't know if it's > only on my case but Imust upgrade grub, linux-image (2.6.26 to 2.6.32) and > udev in this order. > grub before linux-image because linux-image-2.6.32 do

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:08:47AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > As for automake, you should strongly recommend AM_MAINTAINER_MODE. > Packages without this macro are a real pain to patch. > > If upstream wants maintainer mode by default (as you have without the > macro set), they just need to s

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-19 Thread Guido Günther
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:12:29PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 09/15/2010 06:33 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > >>> IMO, you should try to get yourself better acquinted with quilt before > >>> using it, or you can end up with a mess. > >>

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 à 10:40 +0200, Enrico Weigelt a écrit : > Hi folks, > > > I've collected several rules that upstreams should follow to make > distro maintainer's life much easier: > > http://www.metux.de/index.php/de/component/content/article/57.html > > Free feel to comment on it :

Re: RFC: Rules for distro-friendly packages

2010-09-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: [...] > No. I don't believe it's very important or at all necessary, and since > I don't use pkg-config myself and don't plan to start, it's not > particularly important. While I'll probably do something about it > eventually when I have some free time, it's very low on my