Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Eric Dorland
* Marco d'Itri (m...@linux.it) wrote: > On Sep 14, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > > > I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size > > for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports. > FWIW, the OpenPGP smartcard v2 supports keys up to 3072 bits. > Man

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Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Hector Oron , 2010-09-15, 21:26: c) allow build depends on source packages, which it is probably a worst idea. On the contrary, I think that allowing source packages to be installable in the same way as binary packages is an excellent idea. Imagine you can do: apt-get install src:linux-2

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:57:25AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:41:49 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh > wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > > On 14/09/10 01:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > - Your new key should be signed by two or more other Debian

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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Sep 15 2010, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > As for the large keysize, it is seen as too large. It was recommended > that Debian should try to do something that would help reduce the > overall threat to the Debian PKI instead of promoting very large key > sizes *in order to acommodat

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Bernhard R. Link | 2010-09-15 17:05:05 [+0200]: >Or is there no lintian >run for buildd (i.e. unsourcefull) uploads yet? [0] says "Those automated rejects will only be done on sourceful uploads to unstable and experimental." So I would say no, there isn't. [0] http://ftp-master.debian.org/#r

[RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-15 Thread Hector Oron
Dear developers, ABSTRACT How to enable in some special cases a way to allow one source package have multiple maintainers within Debian archive. RATIONALE There are already a number of packages in the archive which ship sources in a binary package, in some cases this is very useful, so withou

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh | I just wondering where I am supposed to find a good smartcard that can | take 2048R (or larger) keys, works well with gnupg, and for how much :) http://shop.kernelconcepts.de/product_info.php?cPath=1_26&products_id=42 does 3072 bit keys and are quite reasonably p

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 09/15/2010 06:33 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: >>> IMO, you should try to get yourself better acquinted with quilt before >>> using it, or you can end up with a mess. >> >> Right. That's why I am testing this process while upstream only produ

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches quilt push > > will do the same. You only need QUILT_PATCHES for the first quilt call. Is that so? That would be good news, but it doesn't match my experience... although the last time I tried that was some months

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christoph Egger writes: > Giuseppe Sacco writes: >> here it fails with message "No patches in series" because it doesn't >> look for debian/patches/series but only for patches/series. > > export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches Actually not needed. Just type "debuild" or "dpkg-buildpackage". It wi

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Christoph Egger
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Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Jonathan McDowell
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 03:14:48PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 15, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > > I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these > > > figures. > > Apparently, just like many other things in the project: the folks > > doing the work (and appointed for this b

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2010-09-15 12:34:46 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Sep 14, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > > > I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size > > > for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > IMO, you should try to get yourself better acquinted with quilt before > > using it, or you can end up with a mess. > > Right. That's why I am testing this process while upstream only produced > and rc version. I've found that using dpkg-source forma

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il giorno mer, 15/09/2010 alle 13.14 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh ha scritto: [...] > "man quilt" explains it all. thanks > IMO, you should try to get yourself better acquinted with quilt before > using it, or you can end up with a mess. Right. That's why I am testing this process while up

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 09/15/2010 11:58 AM, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > > here it fails with message "No patches in series" because it doesn't > look for debian/patches/series but only for patches/series. > See section 3.1 of the New Maintainers Guide. Regards, - --

Re: Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Giuseppe Sacco wrote: > here it fails with message "No patches in series" because it doesn't > look for debian/patches/series but only for patches/series. You have to set the QUILT_PATCHES environment variable or tell quilt where to find the patches through its config file. "

Moving package with quilt to new upstream version

2010-09-15 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi all, I have recently packaged hylafax 6.0.4-10 using quilt. Now I am moving to a new upstream release 6.0.5 and I am trying to update my package following http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-update.en.html#s-newupstream but I failed to it properly. What I do: 1. untar new upstream release

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:41:49 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote: > > On 14/09/10 01:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > - Your new key should be signed by two or more other Debian > > > Developers > > > > The NM and DM processes require only one signatur

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On 14/09/10 01:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > - Your new key should be signed by two or more other Debian Developers > > The NM and DM processes require only one signature. Why is it harder to > replace a key than to become a DD? Or rather, why the require

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 14, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > > I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size > > for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports. > FWIW, the OpenPGP smartcard v2 supports keys up to 3072 bits. Hmm, t

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 15, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > > I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures. > > Apparently, just like many other things in the project: the folks > > doing the work (and appointed for this by the project through the D

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Bernhard R. Link , 2010-09-15, 17:05: As this is not really a new problem and easy to check for, I'm more surprised that is not yet catched by lintian. It is: package-contains-info-dir-file. And it's even on ftp-master's autoreject list. -- Jakub Wilk signature.asc Description: Digital s

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 14/09/10 01:18, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > - Your new key should be signed by two or more other Debian Developers The NM and DM processes require only one signature. Why is it harder to replace a key than to become a DD? -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signa

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 14, "brian m. carlson" wrote: > I suspect that those figures are because 2048 bits is the default size > for RSA keys and 4096 bits is the largest size that GnuPG supports. FWIW, the OpenPGP smartcard v2 supports keys up to 3072 bits. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital s

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Ian Jackson [100915 15:54]: > Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info > is installed"): > > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > > no longer cle

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:56:50 + "brian m. carlson" wrote: > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 09:59:16AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Sep 14, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > > pushing Debian towards adopting stronger RSA keys - We have > > > accepted some 2048R keys, but if you don't have a real reason

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed"): > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 15:14 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I suppose that this was not the result of cargo cult engineering, so if > these new recommended key values have been selected as the result of a > process I am curious to know the rationale which lead to the choice. > It really looks like a s

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 15, Christian PERRIER wrote: > > I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures. > Apparently, just like many other things in the project: the folks > doing the work (and appointed for this by the project through the DPL) > examine the situation, make plans and deci

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
* Peter Samuelson | 2010-09-14 16:19:54 [-0500]: > >[Sebastian Andrzej Siewior] >> Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the >> policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is >> no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). > >Wh

Re: Bits from keyring-maint

2010-09-15 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Christian PERRIER schrieb: >> I would like to know the process which lead to selecting these figures. > > Apparently, just like many other things in the project: the folks > doing the work (and appointed for this by the project through the DPL) > examine the situation, make plans and decisions and

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernhard R. Link writes ("Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed"): > Packages not building in a real environment is a serious problem for our > infrastructure. Having some extremely special build environment for your > software betrays one of the most important principles of free

Re: /usr/share/info/dir.gz if install-info is installed

2010-09-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [100914 13:45]: > Sounds reasonable. However sometimes package maintainer argueue that the > policy says "clean build environment" and having package X intalled is > no longer clean (thus I have a problem and buildds do not). A package more installed is not a unclean b

Re: Is a bug RC relevant if it has an influence on the health of a person

2010-09-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jakub Wilk writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow , 2010-09-11, 19:46: >> Because you are a reportbug novice. Novices are not allowed to play >> with severity of bugs. :) > > I consider this a horrible misfeature of reportbug. Yes, we need RC > bugs from novices, too. > > -- > Jakub Wilk I like the m