Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Raphael Geissert
Ralf Treinen wrote: > > I agree that the infrastructure could (and should) be independent > of the rest of nm. Which doesn't mean that I volunteer to implement > it ... > I could probably help implementing a basic system, but I don't know if it wouldn't be easier to use a ticket-based system so

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Brian May writes: > Just a general observation, it is rather painful to have to set and > maintian QUILT_PATCHES by hand everytime I want to modify a patch. There > have been a number of times now I have accidentally created the patch in > the wrong directory, which can be very confusing (mess tw

Re: New source package formats now available

2009-11-29 Thread Brian May
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 04:12:58PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Am I doing something wrong? Just a general observation, it is rather painful to have to set and maintian QUILT_PATCHES by hand everytime I want to modify a patch. There have been a number of times now I have accidentally created the patc

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 01:22:09AM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Ralf Treinen wrote: > > GPG keysigning coordination is since a long time done by a small > > group of people independendent from FrontDesk. Currently this is > > basically me, with an offer from Patrick Schoenfeld to help. In > > the

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Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Jeremy T. Bouse (29/11/2009): > There is already https://nm.debian.org/gpg.php that people should be > pointed to as a good starting place. Did you actually read the thread? (Either one more mail than the one you replied to; or only that one, but including the quoted message in there should be a

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Ralf Treinen wrote: >> GPG keysigning coordination is since a long time done by a small >> group of people independendent from FrontDesk. Currently this is >> basically me, with an offer from Patrick Schoenfeld to help. In >> the past tbm and Luk have been part of that team.

Re: bug #551926: python-pip and pip: error when trying to install together

2009-11-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Jonathan Yu (29/11/2009): > An alternative arrangement I'd be open to is: /usr/bin/pip points to > a sh script, which tells the user that `pip' has been renamed to > perl-pip and python-pip in Debian. This way, neither pip gets the > /usr/bin/pip name. Mentioning $LANG in the binary is the way to

Re: bug #551926: python-pip and pip: error when trying to install together

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi: [Cc'ing Adam Kennedy since I'm not sure if he's subscribed to debian-devel] Since Adam mentions that Perl's pip predates Python's pip by a significant margin, I think we should close this issue by renaming Python's installer back to pyinstall. It doesn't seem fair for someone who came on the

Bug#558715: ITP: xappy -- easy-to-use interface to the Xapian search engine

2009-11-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: xappy Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Richard Boulton * URL : http://code.google.com/p/xappy/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: Python Description : easy-to-use interface to th

Re: bug #551926: python-pip and pip: error when trying to install together

2009-11-29 Thread Adam Kennedy
http://blog.ianbicking.org/2008/10/28/pyinstall-is-dead-long-live-pip/ The Perl package predates the Python one by several years. The author was made aware of the clash well before it was shipped to Debian and chose to continue anyway. Adam K 2009/11/30 Tim Retout : > [Resending to the *actual*

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Ralf Treinen wrote: > GPG keysigning coordination is since a long time done by a small > group of people independendent from FrontDesk. Currently this is > basically me, with an offer from Patrick Schoenfeld to help. In > the past tbm and Luk have been part of that team. > > I agree that the infr

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Ryan Niebur
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:49:31AM +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote: > On Monday 30 November 2009 00:08:20 Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > > Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also "maintainance" > > > for debian or would this have to be on mentors.debian.org to be a valid > > > maintainan

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Andreas Marschke
On Monday 30 November 2009 00:08:20 Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also "maintainance" > > for debian or would this have to be on mentors.debian.org to be a valid > > maintainance? (Just curios as there use to be some discussion between the > > blogge

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also "maintainance" for > debian or would this have to be on mentors.debian.org to be a valid > maintainance? (Just curios as there use to be some discussion between the > bloggers about that some time back) Where it is maintained is irr

Re: Best practice for packaging *spell

2009-11-29 Thread Agustin Martin
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 05:20:46PM +0300, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: > Hi there. > > I'd like to adopt rus-ispell - Russian dictionary for > aspell/ispell/hunspell/myspell [1] > > I'm not familiar with all this *spell staff and like to ask: > is there any Policy or best practice for such packag

Re: bug #551926: python-pip and pip: error when trying to install together

2009-11-29 Thread Tim Retout
[Resending to the *actual* debian-devel address. :) D'oh.] According to Debian Policy 10.1 [*], when two binaries have different functionality but the same name, this should be reported to the debian-devel mailing list. [*] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html#s10.1 In this case

Bug#558692: ITP: software-center -- Utility for browsing, installing, and removing applications (Ubuntu Software Center)

2009-11-29 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode * Package name: software-center Version : 1.1~bzr Upstream Author : Michael Vogt * URL : https://launchpad.net/software-center * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description : Utility

Bug#558690: ITP: aptdaemon -- transaction based package management service

2009-11-29 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode * Package name: aptdaemon Version : 0.10 Upstream Author : Sebastian Heinlein , Michael Vogt * URL : https://launchpad.net/aptdaemon * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: Python

Re: Depends/Recommends?: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Yeah, but doing string manipulation in C is fairly painful and >> difficult to maintain in the long run. I suspect that shell, sed, and >> awk, despite its disadvantages, would still be easier and clearer than >> using C for this sort of transforma

Re: Depends/Recommends?: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:32:22 -0800 Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: > > Osamu Aoki wrote: > > >> Why not keep the main maintainer script to be /bin/sh and use > >> python within optional compoent. I mean: > > > In any case C could be used to avoid any other sort of dependency. >

Bug#558684: ITP: envstore -- save and restore environment variables

2009-11-29 Thread Maximilian Gass
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Maximilian Gass * Package name: envstore Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Daniel Friesel * URL : https://derf.homelinux.org/~derf/projects/envstore/ * License : WTFPL Programming Lang: C Description : save and res

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Ralf Treinen
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:26:55PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > GPG keysigning coordination > --- > > FD/DAM would like to to move the GPG keysiging coordination over to > someone else. It's not really part of FrontDesk work; and as we are > rewriting the webpage anyhow w

Re: Depends/Recommends?: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Geissert writes: > Osamu Aoki wrote: >> Why not keep the main maintainer script to be /bin/sh and use python >> within optional compoent. I mean: > In any case C could be used to avoid any other sort of dependency. Yeah, but doing string manipulation in C is fairly painful and difficul

Re: Depends/Recommends?: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Raphael Geissert
Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Why not keep the main maintainer script to be /bin/sh and use python > within optional compoent. I mean: > In any case C could be used to avoid any other sort of dependency. Regards, -- Raphael Geissert - Debian Developer www.debian.org - get.debian.net -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread The Fungi
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 08:21:02PM +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote: > Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also > "maintainance" for debian or would this have to be on > mentors.debian.org to be a valid maintainance? (Just curios as > there use to be some discussion between the blogg

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 20:21:02 +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote: > Lets say this package is maintained on Launchpad that also "maintainance" for > debian or would this have to be on mentors.debian.org to be a valid > maintainance? (Just curios as there use to be some discussion between the > blo

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, On Sun, Nov 29 2009, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > Find attached an initial attempt to use shell only. Let me know if you > are interested. > > The script is configurable, so a sysadmin can decide to re-rewrite fstab > using DM/LVM names rather than UUID, or volume LABEL, or legacy /dev/hd* > names

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 13:56 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 28, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > The Linux image packages needs to do some modifications to core > > configuration files like fstab in the future to allow newer kernels to > > work. To do this and the planned further extension I intend

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Andreas Marschke
On Sunday 29 November 2009 19:54:02 Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 06:55:58PM +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote: > > > As such, we prefer that people who want to apply to NM have been active > > > in Debian for a while already, and have built up some experience. In > > > the last f

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 06:55:58PM +0100, Andreas Marschke wrote: > > As such, we prefer that people who want to apply to NM have been active > > in Debian for a while already, and have built up some experience. In the > > last few months, we've already redirected some people to the DM process > >

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Andreas Marschke
> As such, we prefer that people who want to apply to NM have been active > in Debian for a while already, and have built up some experience. In the > last few months, we've already redirected some people to the DM process > when we felt that they were not ready to become a DD yet, and we will > co

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Manoj Srivastava] > This is fine. /etc/fstab is used by mountall.sh, mount, and > swapon explicitly I believe fsck and dump tools also use it to decide when to check and back up the file systems. :) Happy hacking, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lis

Bug#558647: ITP: pythonocc -- pythonocc is a computer program whose purpose is to provide a complete set of python bindings for the OpenCascade library as well as the GEOM Salome package

2009-11-29 Thread Heath Matlock
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Heath Matlock This particular build doesn't include the GEOM Salome package and is intended to be used with another package which I plan to build shortly. Should this be noted somewhere? * Package name: pythonocc Version : 0.3 Upstream Au

Re: Bits from the NM people

2009-11-29 Thread Nuno Paquete
Very good news for people like me that want to be part of the best team in the worl. I'm reading a lot this days, preparing myself to help the best as I can the magnific Debian community. My goal is to be a DD some day. Step by step!! Cheers, Nuno Paquete On Nov 29, 2009 1:27 PM, "Joerg Jaspert"

Best practice for packaging *spell

2009-11-29 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Hi there. I'd like to adopt rus-ispell - Russian dictionary for aspell/ispell/hunspell/myspell [1] I'm not familiar with all this *spell staff and like to ask: is there any Policy or best practice for such packages? Is there somewhere the description of formats and tools used to generate one dict

Bug#558587: marked as done (general: Keep last package version in archives)

2009-11-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:11:55 +0100 with message-id <200911291512.14959.hol...@layer-acht.org> and subject line Re: Bug#558587: general: Keep last package version in archives has caused the Debian Bug report #558587, regarding general: Keep last package version in archives to be mark

Bug#558587: Addition

2009-11-29 Thread OC
Well, in fact I was not totally honest, because I know that sometimes, it is possible to get the former version. For example, today, I can download these two versions : http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/acpid/acpid_1.0.10-3_i386.deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/acpid/acp

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 13:52 +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Manoj Srivastava: > >> It seems to be that a better approach is to inform the user, and > >> let the admin make the changes needed. > > > This is probably true. After all, it could make more sense to

Re: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#558570: Missing autoreconf to fix 554821 or similar bugs in the future

2009-11-29 Thread Peter Fritzsche
Michael Biebl wrote: > Peter Fritzsche wrote: > > Source: libatasmart > > Version: 0.17-1 > > Severity: minor > > User: peter.fritzs...@gmx.de > > Usertags: missing-libtool-update > > > > I did a rebuild of all packages which are affected by bug #554821. As it > > seems your package doesnt do the n

Bug#558587: general: Keep last package version in archives

2009-11-29 Thread O.C.
Package: general Severity: wishlist Hello, I use Debian Testing. Every time a package is fucked up, I would like to test the former version of that package, but to my knowledge, it is not kept anywhere any thus it is not available. Taking Debian Stable package is of course not possible becaus

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 28, Bastian Blank wrote: > The Linux image packages needs to do some modifications to core > configuration files like fstab in the future to allow newer kernels to > work. To do this and the planned further extension I intend to make all > linux image packages depend on python. This is not

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Andreas Metzler
Florian Weimer wrote: > * Manoj Srivastava: >> It seems to be that a better approach is to inform the user, and >> let the admin make the changes needed. > This is probably true. After all, it could make more sense to change > from hd* to UUIDs or labels instead of from hd* to sd*, to c

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Manoj Srivastava: > It seems to be that a better approach is to inform the user, and > let the admin make the changes needed. This is probably true. After all, it could make more sense to change from hd* to UUIDs or labels instead of from hd* to sd*, to compensate for the lack of stab