On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 01:11:07AM +0200, Luca Niccoli wrote:
> 2009/9/16 Russ Allbery :
>
> > If there were a document of how to do automated module builds using
> > triggers or a kernel hook, I'd be happy to try that as well.
>
> I tried to set up a kernel hook with the script I attached before
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:19:12 +0200 Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:41:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
>
> > the answer to the real problem is education. if a user didn't submit
> > sufficient details in their report, politely ask them for more. show
> > them a guide for strac
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2009/9/16 Russ Allbery :
> If there were a document of how to do automated module builds using
> triggers or a kernel hook, I'd be happy to try that as well.
I tried to set up a kernel hook with the script I attached before, but failed.
If run by the kernel package postinst, m-a can't get the loc
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Mike Hommey writes:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> That gets the new kernel installs, but I don't think it gets the
>> updates to the kernel module source package. Although I suppose we
>> could duplicate that with a postinst call to module-assistant.
> Or us
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:57:06PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Mike Hommey writes:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI
> >> changes, a new module is automatically built. It does mean that y
Mike Hommey writes:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Every time either the openafs-modules-dkms package or the kernel ABI
>> changes, a new module is automatically built. It does mean that you
>> have to wait for the compile process during aptitude upgrade, but
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:49:42PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Mike Hommey writes:
> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered
> >> the archive and love it. It's far more convenient than
> >> modu
Mike Hommey writes:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I've been shipping an openafs-modules-dkms package since DKMS entered
>> the archive and love it. It's far more convenient than
>> module-assistant, and I hope all of the other out-of-source kernel
>> module m
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:41:40PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> "Hans-J. Ullrich" writes:
> > Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
> >> [Hans-J. Ullrich]
>
> >>> DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
> >>> a good help. But what with non-kernel- mod
"Hans-J. Ullrich" writes:
> Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
>> [Hans-J. Ullrich]
>>> DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
>>> a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
>> Can you give an example?
> No, sorry, I cannot. I looked at the
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:41:50 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> the answer to the real problem is education. if a user didn't submit
> sufficient details in their report, politely ask them for more. show
> them a guide for strace, or bug writing guides, or debian
> documentation, or whatever may
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 22:41, Michael Gilbert
wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:46:31 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>> > Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
>> > possible to differentiate between softwar
Hi,
Michael Gilbert wrote:
> if you want to add something useful to reportbug, i would recommend
> kind opening and closing remarks. for example, i've noticed that a bug
> starting with 'hi' seems a lot friendlier and gets attention more
> quickly than one with a 'hello', which seems more drawn
Daniel Leidert wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 18:59 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau:
>> it seems to me you
>> could just demote the hkp helper's dependencies to Recommends
>> (exclude it when running dh_shlibdeps, and then run dpkg-shlibdeps
>> -dRecommends on the helper? This doesn't require
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:46:31 +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
> > possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
> > and plan simple user expectat
[apologies for the late response]
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:35:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:13:45AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]:
> > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +01
LB> Prey tell, what is wrong with maintainers of for example iptables,
LB> providing a conffile with samples (which may even be commented out)
LB> which they can reference to in their documentation, where they
LB> comment on the different settings?
LB> This is what we do with /etc/sysctl.conf toda
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Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 18:59 +0200 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 17:55:27 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:>
> > Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
(JFTR: I saw your report against libcurl)
[..]
> > > You could perhapsr build gnupg
> > > twice (
]] Guillem Jover
| The other one I can offer is update-exim4.conf, which is the default
| from several ways to handle the exim4 configuration. But something I've
| always found pretty confusing and always switched my boxes to use the
| monolithic configuration file in /etc/exim4/exim4.conf. I'd w
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 17:55:27 +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> CCing d-devel to get some more feedback (@David, this is mostly FYI -
> please comment if I'm wrong)
>
> Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
>
> > the new gnupg now *depends* on libcurl3-gnutls. gnupg is
Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Peter Samuelson:
> [Hans-J. Ullrich]
>
> > DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
> > a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
>
> Can you give an example?
>
Hello Peter!
No, sorry, I cannot. I looked at the documentati
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CCing d-devel to get some more feedback (@David, this is mostly FYI -
please comment if I'm wrong)
Am Sonntag, den 06.09.2009, 09:47 +0200 schrieb Andreas Metzler:
> the new gnupg now *depends* on libcurl3-gnutls. gnupg is priority
> important and a part of base system since debian-archive-keyrin
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2009/9/15 Marco d'Itri :
> On Sep 15, Lars Bahner wrote:
>
>> Prey tell, what is wrong with maintainers of for example iptables,
>> providing a conffile
>> with samples (which may even be commented out) which they can
>> reference to in their documentation, where they comment on the
>> different s
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On Sep 15, Lars Bahner wrote:
> Prey tell, what is wrong with maintainers of for example iptables,
> providing a conffile
> with samples (which may even be commented out) which they can
> reference to in their documentation, where they comment on the
> different settings?
That it duplicates the s
[Hans-J. Ullrich]
> DKMS seems only be made for kernel modules. It is greart anyway, and
> a good help. But what with non-kernel- modules?
Can you give an example?
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2009/9/15 Hans-J. Ullrich :
> Hi Luca,
>
> just to make it clear: It is not the problem, how I can solve this problem!
> This problem I can easy solve with a little shell script. But there are lots
> of unexperienced users, which are not able to script themselve. They are just
> users. For those p
2009/9/15 Marco d'Itri :
> On Sep 14, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
>
>> LB> You could file this a a wishlist bug report against the iptables
>> LB> package, and see if the maintainer wish to add this file (or a larger
>> LB> /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conf with some sane defaults).
> What makes you beli
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On Sep 14, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> LB> You could file this a a wishlist bug report against the iptables
> LB> package, and see if the maintainer wish to add this file (or a larger
> LB> /etc/sysctl.d/iptables.conf with some sane defaults).
What makes you believe that the kernel defaults are
[ brief response, I hope to respond in more detail to much
of this thread soon ]
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:54:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy
wrote:
> I think that DEP 5 still needs some work, so I hope that
> you will not be too annoyed if some changes during the
> discussions on the draft will break
Le mardi 15 septembre 2009 à 11:57 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich a écrit :
> Well, of course, there is DKMS, but DKMS seems only be made for kernel
> modules. It is greart anyway, and a good help. But what with non-kernel-
> modules?
Fortunately there is not too much software with an ABI as badly
main
Am Dienstag 15 September 2009 schrieb Luca Niccoli:
> Luca
>
> P.S.
>
> For the sake of clarity I attached the modified script, it's very short.
> I didn't try it though.
>
Hi Luca,
just to make it clear: It is not the problem, how I can solve this problem!
This problem I can easy solve wit
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:39:40AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 13, Niko Tyni wrote:
>
> > 246 packages failed to build with 'Error 13' at the end of the log,
> It's a big number. Can you add a temporary workaround for a few
> months until most packages are fixed?
Uh, it turns out I can i
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:46:31PM +0530, Kartik Mistry wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
> > possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
> > and plan simple user e
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> Especially the 'what did you expect' is important, as it often make it
> possible to differentiate between software bugs, documentation bugs
> and plan simple user expectation issues.
May be 'reportbug' can give more template options l
[Dan Jacobson]
> Gentlemen, I shall be delivering my talk,
> "Reflections of a bigtime Debian bug reporter"
> http://jidanni.org/comp/bug_reporter.html
Interesting topic. I had a look at your outline, and one particular
thing I found missing was good instructions on what to include in a
bug repo
2009/9/14 Hans-J. Ullrich :
> Problem: Whenever I upgrade to a new kernelversion, or there are new versions
> of kernel-modules or other packages, which are only available in source-code,
> it is necessary to build the new versions manually. This is rather annoying
> and it might be a problem for
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