Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Don Armstrong (d...@debian.org): > Considering the fact that this thread has only been here for a few > hours,[1] I'm going to hold off at least for a few days to entertain > objections. But hearing none, I'll implement this when I get a chance. Not sure that's really needed as you made

Bug#546270: ITP: taggrepper -- search and match tags of media files against regular expressions

2009-09-11 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kumar Appaiah * Package name: taggrepper Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Kumar Appaiah (myself) * URL : http://gitorious.org/taggrepper/pages/Home * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : search and matc

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:40:14PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > I'm fine with it being the default, it just needs to be something that > > a submitter can choose not to receive. > > If the consensus is that we should implement Cc:'ing the submitter > > quickly, and that it's ok to implement the o

Bug#546258: ITP: overload -- Scilab toolbox to overload Scilab's macros

2009-09-11 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sylvestre Ledru * Package name: overload Version : 1.3.1 Upstream Author : Calixte Denizet * URL : http://scilabtbxset.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL 3 Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : Scilab toolbox to

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I actually lost 7 seconds, according to bootchard, by setting > that. Would be interesting to have a before and after bootchart so this regression can be investigated. Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe

Re: RFC about cosmetic bug whith partial upgrades vs. added symbol versioning

2009-09-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Mike Hommey wrote: > Now, libxml2 is used a lot. A whole lot. My concern is that partial > upgrades can possibly leave people with an old libxml2 and newer > programs (they could even put themselves in this situation by pinning > some packages), in which case these warnings are

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Olivier Bonvalet wrote: > But combined with "readahead", there is no I/O bound during init. > Most of needed files are preload. Any initscripts that deal with devices will still be I/O bound. And the current scheduler doesn't help (see current threads in LKML). You should st

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Ben Finney
Don Armstrong writes: > The complete plan involves having nnn-submitter@ changing from being > an alias of the submitter's e-mail address to behaving like nnn@, with > the addition of making sure that the submitter gets a copy. See my > mails on this subject. Thanks for pointing this out again.

RFC about cosmetic bug whith partial upgrades vs. added symbol versioning

2009-09-11 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi fellow developers, I uploaded, yesterday, a new upstream of libxml2 that adds symbol versioning. There is actually no problem with this, and from my testing, everything is still working as expected (the most important part being that symbols have only been versioned, and none was removed). Any

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
Harald Braumann wrote: > While I personally like to be kept updated on all bugs I file and would > welcome an auto-subscribe feature, one has to accept the fact that > others might not. I always find it very irritating if The System > forces things on me because it thinks it knows what's best for e

Bug#546222: RFP: latex-translator -- modular LaTeX string localization system

2009-09-11 Thread Andrey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: latex-translator Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Till Tantau (tan...@users.sourceforge.net) * URL or Web page : http://sourceforge.net/projects/latex-beamer * License : LaTeX Project Public License or GPL Description :

Bug#546220: ITP: agtl -- tool for paperless geocaching

2009-09-11 Thread hstuebner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Heiko Stuebner * Package name: agtl Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Daniel Fett * URL : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Advanced_Geocaching_Tool_for_Linux * License : GPL3 (or later) and one included file GPL2 (or late

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Sep 11 2009, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:05:32PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: >> If you want to test this feature in testing or unstable, use this >> command: >> >> echo CONCURRENCY=makefile >> /etc/default/rcS >> >> It will enable makefile style concurrenc

Re: Bug#513272: Availability of roundl() on armel?

2009-09-11 Thread Jan C. Nordholz
Hi Michael, > I am trying to fix #513272, a FTBFS on armel. The problem basically > boils down to the following snippet failing to compile on armel (tested > with a Debian lenny on a qemu-emulated armel system): see /usr/include/bits/mathdef.h on armel: ] [...] ] #ifndef __NO_LONG_DOUBLE_MATH ]

DEP-5: query about possible inheritence of License:

2009-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Sorry to raise the spectre of DEP5 after so many months. And apologies if this has already been raised elsewhere; I haven't found it in a skim of the list archives and the wiki page. Consider the situation where you have a package licensed entirely under one license and predominantly authored by o

Bug#546217: ITP: gargoyle-free -- interactive fiction player

2009-09-11 Thread Sylvain Beucler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sylvain Beucler * Package name: gargoyle-free Version : 2009-08-25 Upstream Author : Tor Andersson, Ben Cressey * URL : http://ccxvii.net/gargoyle/ * License : GPL and compatible Programming Lang: C Description :

Bug#513272: Availability of roundl() on armel?

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, [ I already posted this to debian-armel already [0], but got no response so far -- maybe someone on this list can provide a hint ] I am trying to fix #513272, a FTBFS on armel. The problem basically boils down to the following snippet failing to compile on armel (tested with a Debian lenn

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009, Christoph Egger wrote: > I'm seeing exactly this problem with the proposal. IMHO we really > need a way to definitely get the submitter and we need to use that > whenever we need a answer. subscribing the submitter to > ???...@bugs.d.o by default and giving the option to unsubs

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:44:56PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:21:07AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > As I've mentioned before, IMO there is only one valid > > reason to unsubscribe from BRs after we change the > > default, and that is if you *already* receive follow-ups > >

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:05:32PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: >> If you want to test this feature in testing or unstable, use this >> command: >> >> echo CONCURRENCY=makefile >> /etc/default/rcS >> >> It will enable makefile style concurrency, and run N scripts in

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Harald Braumann
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:21:07 +0200 Frans Pop wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > > I personally prefer not to be CCed on bug reports. I don't want to > > recieve any mail about a bug unless it is asking me to supply more > > information. > > So you *do* want to be CCed if the maintainer needs more infor

Re: #545996: please inform submitters they need to subs cribe

2009-09-11 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frans Pop wrote: > Holger Levsen wrote: >> But I also think the acknowledgement mail should contain the information >> that the submitter is not being subscribed by default and how s/he can >> subscribe. > > IMHO this is very wrong: the user has alrea

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 17:23 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Conceptually, what "we" want is trivial: we want submitter to be > subscribed (in the sense of "bts subscribe") by default. If they want, > they are free to opt unsubscribing. If the submitter can unsubscribe, then we haven't won anyth

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 18:25 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > That is the thread at large. Currently it was about why nnn-quiet is no > suitable workaround if the followup address for users (nnn@) would suddenly > also mail users. Speaking of -quiet, I'd be happy to see that die. Or at the very le

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wouter Verhelst] > That seems suboptimal. Could be. See the startpar program to see how the scripts are run in parallel. Note that the boot is mostly CPU bound when readahead is used, which you should use if you care about boot speed. :) > If it actually is configurable, but you just didn't te

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Olivier Bonvalet
But combined with "readahead", there is no I/O bound during init. Most of needed files are preload. Wouter Verhelst a écrit : On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:05:32PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: If you want to test this feature in testing or unstable, use this command: echo CONCURRENCY=ma

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 02:15:43PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > I don't find the existing behavior confusing, especially since there > is -submitter@ The problem with the -submitter@ mail alias is that it does not get changed in the forward, so that when a submitter hits 'reply' in his MUA, he

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:05:32PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > If you want to test this feature in testing or unstable, use this > command: > > echo CONCURRENCY=makefile >> /etc/default/rcS > > It will enable makefile style concurrency, and run N scripts in > parallel during boot, where

Bug#546183: ITP: libsx -- Simple X library

2009-09-11 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: libsx Version : 2.05 Upstream Author : Jean-Pierre Demailly * URL : ftp://ftp.ac-grenoble.fr/ge/Xlibraries/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Simple X library

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:21:07AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > As I've mentioned before, IMO there is only one valid > reason to unsubscribe from BRs after we change the > default, and that is if you *already* receive follow-ups > because snip There's also the case where you submitted a bug in a pac

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 09:40:21AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > [1] I think that is the biggest argument against this change: The > current behaviour is user centered and the new one will be > developer-centered, so most likely be confusing to the user. I don't agree with the positioning here.

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:35:02PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > I don't think it should be too easy to opt-out. We should > not get in a situation where we no longer CC a submitter > because we assume he/she is subscribed, while the > submitter will never get the mails because he did not > realize tha

Bug#546166: ITP: rabbit -- presentation tool using RD, a simple text format

2009-09-11 Thread Youhei SASAKI
Package: wnpp Owner: Youhei SASAKI Severity: wishlist * Package name: rabbit Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : Kouhei Sutou * URL or Web page : http://www.cozmixng.org/~rwiki/?cmd=view;name=Rabbit * License : GPL Description : presentation tool using RD, a simple te

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Christoph Egger
Frans Pop schrieb: > Paul Wise wrote: >> I personally prefer not to be CCed on bug reports. I don't want to >> recieve any mail about a bug unless it is asking me to supply more >> information. > > So you *do* want to be CCed if the maintainer needs more information. > > Then there's one thing I

Re: #545996: please inform submitters they need to subs cribe

2009-09-11 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 08:13:12PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > package: bugs.debian.org > severity: wishlist > x-debbugs-cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > Hi, > > On Donnerstag, 10. September 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > But reporters are sacrifing some of their time to help us make ou

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Frans Pop
Paul Wise wrote: > I personally prefer not to be CCed on bug reports. I don't want to > recieve any mail about a bug unless it is asking me to supply more > information. So you *do* want to be CCed if the maintainer needs more information. Then there's one thing I don't get. - if we change the de

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Don Armstrong [090910 22:47]: > On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Given the high rate of people (at least in those that replied here) > > in favor of adding submitter in the loop of n...@b.d.o, I think your > > plan is very good: > > > > - include the submitter in n...@b.d.o by default

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > I'd like to remind maintainers that in order to reach bug reporters to > ask for tests etc. you _need_ to explicitely Cc the bug reporter, else > he won't receive the mail and of course not do the tests etc.  It's now > quite a few times t

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:47:22PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > 1: Not to mention the multiple messages erroneously describing my > position on the matter without allowing time for a response, or > bothering to read the logs of the relevant bugs. While I hope I'm not in that author set :-), let m